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Manuel
Dodge Dakota
8/10/2001
20:07:10
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 Subject: Help picking intake.
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Well, now that I've gotten my exhaust done, I think its time upgrade my intake. Everyone's opinion will help. I like the K&N gen II for my 5.2,then there is also the Intense performance stage II, III and z-tubes, plus Quck D. Now we have this G-force thingy. I want to know which intake is going to give me the most gain in performance. If its that G-force thing, I'm worried about rain stalling out the truck like some of the older vehicles used to do. Are the intense performance filters superior to the K&N? If they are, and the K&N genII system is better, will the intense performance filter fit on the FIPK system?
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Manuel
Dodge Dakota
8/11/2001
14:12:28
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Anyone?
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y2kgibbly
Dodge Dakota
8/11/2001
14:16:12
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I have a Z-tube and it is great. Obvious increase in power, sound, and the thing looks manly as hell. Cost about $250, and worth every penny.
2001 CC auto 4.7L Z-tube DynoMax Duals 3923's
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CyberWolf
Dodge Dakota
8/11/2001
20:59:58
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First, I didn't know they made a Z-tube for a 5.2.
Second, I've been meaning to answer this rain in a ram air system question. Of course this is something that happens with any ram air type system. Most of these systems use a K&N or equivelant filter. These filters are made out of gauze (not paper) and are oiled. This doesn't allow much (if any at all) water through it. If any water does get through the filter it would only be a small mist. Also, a little water flowing through your system won't hurt. As a matter of fact, some of the older mechanics spray water into carbs and throttle bodies to clean the valves. I don't imagine you would want to drive in a hurricane but I dont really have to worry about that here in Texas. Also, if the air intake is mounted low on the vehicle you probably wouldn't want to drive through any deep water crossings. I have a friend that has had a ram air type system on his car for the last 5 yrs and has never had any trouble with rain water.
I hope this helps.
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Manuel
Dodge Dakota
8/11/2001
22:54:22
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As far as the Z-tube, I really don't know if they make it for a 5.2. That's one of the reasons for my post. I don't understand the difference between these cold air intakes. At one point I was pretty sure I would be getting the K&N gen II, hands down. Then I started seeing these intense performance intakes (IP), and they seem like a quality product, but are they going to get me a better gain than the K&N. The IP filters seem like they would take in more air. Then there is the g-force product. That seems like it would get the most air in, however, the fact is I do take my truck off-road, across small creeks and such. We get snow here too, and occasionally a pretty hard rain. I keep thinking back to an old Bronco II we had when I was a kid. Got caught in a heavy rainstorm and it would stall. Since then, I've seen a lot of vehicles driving around with a piece of cardboard in the front to keep the rain out. So I guess right now I have really only three choices; Intense performance (I think I need further explanation on their stage II, II and Z-tube), the g-force intake, and the K&N.
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CyberWolf
Dodge Dakota
8/12/2001
13:18:36
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I think the K&N Gen II is the best choice for you. That is the most proven setup. I don't think that IP makes a Z-tube for the 5.2. I'm pretty sure the Z-Tube is only for the 4.7. The G-Forced is a nice product but if you take it offroad more than you race it, it wouldnt be a good choice for you.
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Manuel
Dodge Dakota
8/12/2001
13:52:45
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Thanks Cyberwolf, I know you really like the g-force system. That helps tremendously that you would recommend the K&N for my specific use. What about the filters from IP?
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CyberWolf
Dodge Dakota
8/12/2001
15:38:57
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Stick with the K&N. K&N tried the open front design and removed it because testing showed that the open front caused the filter to flow less air. Something about only 1/4 of the side is able to actually flow air because the open front cancels out the first 3/4 of the sides or something like that. It all made sense when I was reading about it. Just the fact that K&N, one of the largest air filter manufacturers, doesn't make one tells me that its not a proven design. I hope all of this helps.
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