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Dodge Dakota
8/05/2001
14:12:16
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Is there any difference between the 5.9 in a regular dakota and the 5.9 in an R/T?
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Wayne
Dodge Dakota
8/05/2001
19:35:31
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Don't think you can get the 5.9 in a regular Dak. The R/T has a exhaust that flows better is the only difference that I know between the R/T and regular Rams. I'm not a 4X4 person but I think you could get the 5.9 in the 4X4 Dak. If so, It has the regular exhaust that my 5.2 has.
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Blizzard
Gen III
8/05/2001
20:04:50
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I know the 5.9 is available in the quad cabs ... 4x4 or 4x2. As Wayne said the exhaust is different for the R/T's ... other than that I couldn't say.
'01 QC 4x4
5.9L, 3.92 LSD, loaded
www.geocities.com/blizzzzard69
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Hersbird
Dodge Dakota
8/06/2001
01:14:05
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The PCM is programmed for a little more power two. The Durango R/T gets even a hotter stock PCM then the Dakota R/T to try and help with the extra weight. Nothing is different with the actual motor itself.
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Mar
Dodge Dakota
8/07/2001
10:13:16
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The suspention is tuned and can't tow what a regualar dak can.
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koz
Dodge Dakota
8/07/2001
15:21:15
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I have a '00 QC 4x4 with a 5.9L. I checked the options list before I bought it and the 5.9L engine seemed like just another option like everything else. The only catch was that you could not get the manual transmission. I think that a R/T is what it is because of the exhaust, PCM program, suspension and ground effects. A R/T cannot be a 4x4. You lose 5 HP with the QC because of losses in the drive train (transfer case), I think... The engines should be exactly the same. -Al
'00 QC 4x4 SLT+ 5.9L 3.92LSD StgIII Gibson
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Anthony
Dodge Dakota
8/07/2001
15:28:40
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Koz,
"You lose 5 HP with the QC because of losses in the drive train (transfer case), I think... The engines should be exactly the same. -Al"
If this was true, then they would rate it on Rear Wheel Hp, not Crank HP. Too bad 5.9L don't put out 250RWHP stock. :)
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Manuel
Dodge Dakota
8/07/2001
15:29:38
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If I remember correctly, Dodge rates the R/T at 250 hp. I know the 360 in the Ram is rated at 245 hp.
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Hersbird
Dodge Dakota
8/07/2001
21:14:01
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As of 2001 models the HP went down to 245 for the R/T, the book still says 250, but the window stickers all say 245. What does a 2001 Quad cab say? And the 2WD quad cab was rated the same as the 4x4 so that kind of throws that drivetrain losses out of the window. I also bet the 4x4 drivetrain losses are more then 5 HP. I'm sure the extra 5 HP is from the exhaust and PCM.
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koz
Dodge Dakota
8/08/2001
10:33:00
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Hey, I said "I think" there was drivetrain loss, clearly I guessed. The specs on the quad-cab say 245 hp. If you look at the '00 brochure, you will see the magnum engine lineup and an asterick next to the 5.9L hp rating. It says something like: 250 hp, except quad-cab (245 hp). After thinking about it, it doesn't seem to make any sense since it should read: 245 hp, except R/T (250 hp...if there was something "special" about the R/T setup. -Al
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Anthony
Dodge Dakota
8/08/2001
11:35:09
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You can't trust stickers! Dyno testing tells you the truth ;)
Mopar Mag Stock Dakota(1999 R/T) Factory rated at 250hp@4400 with 345tq@3200
Dyno Stats 205hp@4250 rpm, 277 lb/ft@3500
My Stock Dakota(2001 R/T W/4400miles)Still not fully broken in. I expect more HP around 10k :)
Dyno Stats 208.1hp@4100 302tq@3400
3400 195.0hp 302.0tq
3500 200.9hp 301.4tq
3600 205.9hp 300.4tq
3700 203.8hp 289.0tq
3800 206.7hp 285.7tq
3900 206.9hp 278.7tq
4000 207.9hp 273.0tq
4100 208.1hp 266.6tq
4200 205.4hp 256.8tq
4300 204.8hp 250.1tq
4400 203.3hp 242.7tq
4500 200.5hp 234.0tq
4600 196.6hp 224.5tq
After 4600rpms it starts to drop. I need to change that :) Mods soon to come.
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Hersbird
Dodge Dakota
8/08/2001
19:20:22
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Those dyno numbers are at the wheels right? The factory rates the HP at the flywheel, so the sticker probably is a number derived by hooking up a few motors to dynos at the factory and seeing what they are. Which is probably 245-250HP depending on if it's a 98-00 or a 2001.
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