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Kev
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10/12/2004
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I've read a few threads on this site about what lubricant to use in my manual transmision.
I have a 2003 QC 4x4 and I bought Amsoil 75W-90 gear lube for it.. but Now I've read that it may need a different lube.
Is this true?
How can I tell what tranny I have NV1500 or NV3500? and what lube I should use?
As well as what is the proper volumes of lube?
I plan on changing all the fluids to Amsoil in the next few nights diffs, t-case, tranny, and engine!
any help will be appreaciated!
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Snake
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10/12/2004
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Your tranny is the NV3500. It takes Syncromesh transmission fluid available only from Chevy or Dodge dealers. It is a synthetic fluid, but it cost a fortune because, well you're getting it at the stealership. So, a lot of peeps use Amsoil Series 2000 5w-30. Yes it takes motor oil, not gear lube. You'll burn the tranny up with gear lube!! Whatever you choose, make sure it's compatible with yellow metals (brass, copper, etc) because as I understand, the syncro cones are some type of yellow metal...
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Kev
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10/12/2004
13:52:47
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Thanx for the info Snake!
Is the NV3500 the only manual tranny that came in the 03's?
is it ok to use just the normal Amsoil 5W-30 or does it have to be the 2000 series?
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Snake
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10/12/2004
14:03:56
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I think people use the series 2000 because it's labeled as heavy duty. The normal 5w-30 would probably work just fine.
The NV1500 was used only for the 4-cyl...
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10/12/2004
16:46:19
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Manual Transmission, NV3500 ..... GLS
SAE 5W-30 Synthetic Motor Oil
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I believe the 2003 QC is the 4.7L. Correct?
This will help you with all your fluids and filters:
2003 DODGE TRUCKS DAKOTA 4.7L 8-cyl VIN Code N
AMSOIL FILTERS
Oil Filter......SDF42
Air Filter......TS29
Fuel Filter......N/S
Fuel Vapor Filter......N/R
CHASSIS LUBRICATION
Four-wheel drive
17 Fittings, 0 Plugs..........LB
Series 2000 Synthetic Racing Grease
Synthetic GHD Heavy-Duty EP Grease
Synthetic Multi-Purpose Grease NLGI #2
Two-wheel drive
6 Fittings, 0 Plugs..........LB
Series 2000 Synthetic Racing Grease
Synthetic GHD Heavy-Duty EP Grease
Synthetic Multi-Purpose Grease NLGI #2
LUBRICANTS & FLUIDS
Engine Oil, Grade 1......API*
Series 2000 Synthetic 0W-30 Motor Oil
SAE 5W-30 Synthetic Motor Oil
Series 3000 Synthetic 5W-30 Heavy Duty Diesel Oil
Above 0°F......10W-30
Below 100°F......5W-30[1]
Manual Transmission,NV3500.....GLS[2]
SAE 5W-30 Synthetic Motor Oil
Automatic Transmission.....AP4[3]
Synthetic Automatic Transmission Fluid
Differential, Front .....GL-5
75W-90
Series 2000 Synthetic Gear Lube
SAE 75W-90 Synthetic Gear Lube
Controlled Slip Differential, Rear 7.25-9.25 axles.....GL-5*
75W-90
Series 2000 Synthetic Gear Lube
SAE 75W-90 Synthetic Gear Lube
Slip-Lock Differential Additive
Differential, Rear W/ tt.....GLS[4]
75W-140
Series 2000 Synthetic Gear Lube 75W-140
Transfer Case,.....AP4
Synthetic Automatic Transmission Fluid
Fluids
Power Steering Fluid.....AP4
Synthetic Automatic Transmission Fluid
1. SAE 5W-30 is preferred.
2. GLS is a special gear lube, Mopar part no. 04874464.
3. Daimler Chrysler Corp. recommends that all vehicles with Chrysler automatic transmissions be serviced with ATF+4 Automatic Transmission Fluid.
4. Synthetic based oil.
CAPACITIES
Engine, with filter..........5.9 quarts[1]
Automatic Transmission, 42RE Initial Fill..........4.0 quarts[2]
Automatic Transmission, A45RFE 2WD Initial Fill..........5.5 quarts[2][3]
Automatic Transmission, A45RFE 4WD Initial Fill..........6.6 quarts[4][5]
Automatic Transmission, 44RE Initial Fill..........4.0 quarts[6]
Automatic Transmission, 46RE Initial Fill..........4.0 quarts[6]
Automatic Transmission, 545RFE 2WD Initial Fill..........5.5 quarts[6][7]
Automatic Transmission, 545RFE 4WD Initial Fill..........6.6 quarts[8][9]
Automatic Transmission, Total Fill
42RE..........10.0 quarts
45RFE..........14.0 quarts
46RE..........10.0 quarts
Manual Transmission, NV3500 2WD..........4.9 pints
Manual Transmission, NV3500 4WD..........4.2 pints
Differential, C205F Front..........3.6 pints[10]
Differential, with 8.25 ring gear Rear..........4.4 pints[11]
Differential, with 9.25 ring gear Rear..........4.9 pints[12]
Transfer Case,NV133, NV233..........2.5 pints
Transfer Case,NV244..........3.0 pints
1. After refill check oil level
2. With engine automatic transmission operating temperature, shift through all gears. Check fluid level in NEUTRAL and add fluid as needed.
3. DTC'S may be set , reset with DRB III, if necessary
4. With engine automatic transmission operating temperature, shift through all gears. Check fluid level in NEUTRAL and add fluid as needed.
5. DTC'S may be set , reset with DRB III, if necessary
6. With engine automatic transmission operating temperature, shift through all gears. Check fluid level in NEUTRAL and add fluid as needed.
7. DTC'S may be set , reset with DRB III, if necessary
8. With engine automatic transmission operating temperature, shift through all gears. Check fluid level in NEUTRAL and add fluid as needed.
9. DTC'S may be set , reset with DRB III, if necessary
10. Fill to level of fill plug.
11. Fill no higher then 1/4 inch below plug hole.
12. Fill no higher then 5/8 inch below plug hole.
TORQUES
Oil Drain Plug.....25 ft-lbs
Transfer case
Fill Plug.....15-25 ft-lbs
Drain Plug.....15-25 ft-lbs
Manual Transmission NV3500
Fill Plug.....14-20 ft-lbs
Drain Plug.....14-20 ft-lbs
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AMSOIL Synthetic Motor Oils, Lubricants, Filtration, and Truck Care Products
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Kev
Dodge Dakota
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10/12/2004
17:24:42
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Thanx Amsoil Guy!
I appreciate it!
I wanted to make sure because it just feels wierd filling the tranny up with motor oil!
But I guess its all good!
thanx again for the info!
And you were right, it is the 4.7L V8!
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Synchromesh
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10/13/2004
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Autozone sells Pennzoil Synchromesh for 5 bucks a quart. It's in the gear lube section. The Chevy dealer sells Synchromesh cheaper than the Dodge dealer. Don't use anything but the correct fluid in this transmission. It is very particular about what fluid to run in it. If you do decide to use Amsoil use the 5W-30 diesel engine oil.
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Kev
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10/13/2004
16:10:29
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What is so different in this tranny that it can't use the gear lube. Is it just the "Yellow Metals" or is there more to it than that?
It just seems odd that they would have one Tranny out of the Dak's that takes a different fluid.
If anyone knows I would be interested to hear what you know!
Thanx for all your help everyone!
I think I'll go with the Amsoil 5W-30 HDD
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Snake
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10/13/2004
16:56:12
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Good question. I don't know the answer, but the NV3500 was a joint development between Chrysler, GM, and New Venture. Maybe it's the tolerances of the gears, or that they wanted better efficiency than sloshing through 90w oil. The NV4500 takes gear oil... but it's rated as an HD tranny. The 3500 is rated as a medium duty...
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Kev
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10/13/2004
18:38:15
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So even though I have the heavy duty package on my truck it still would have the NV3500? not the NV4500?
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Dr. D
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10/13/2004
20:20:00
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Been using the HDD 5w-30 for almost 200,000 miles with
nothing but excellant results.
You can also use the ASL 5w-30 which cost a few bucks less per
qt.
Shifts good on those cold mornings !
Dr. D
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Kev
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10/13/2004
20:32:51
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Good to hear! Thanx!
I was also wondering if anyone knows of a serial number or any type of ID to make sure the tranny is a NV3500?
I asked the parts guy at the stealership what tranny my truck would have but he didn't even look it up he just agreed that its most likely the Nv3500..
I'd rather be sure than take his word for it.
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Snake
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10/14/2004
09:50:08
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The 2003 factory service manual outlines two different manual transmissions for that model year. The NV1500 and NV3500. The 1500 is characterized by a removable clutch housing. The 3500 housing is not removeable, it's part of the case.
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Kev
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10/14/2004
09:52:44
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Thanx Snake.
That makes it super easy to tell! I appreciate the info.
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CrazyJay
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10/14/2004
18:51:30
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Does anyone know if you just fill the tranny up till it reaches the filler hole like you would on a diff?
Or is there a different way of doing it?
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