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6/29/2004
12:40:35

Subject: Tranny help and engine swap
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I have a 1995 dakota extended cab sport with an automatic electric overdrive trans and a 318, the 318 is blown and pulled. I have a 1978 440 with a 727 complete with all brackets and driveshaft. I would like to use the overdrive trans but need to know what needs to be done for the whole swap, since the trans is elcetric can i use it without a special computer or can i just bolt it up like the original 727. Any info would be great. Also looks like i have a prob with the brake booster being to large, wonder if i can use 1 from a dodge van. Also any info on what headders i can use please



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6/29/2004
13:13:22

RE: Tranny help and engine swap
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why do you keep asking the same question with different titles?

your other posts have been responded to.

6.6 Lt. Big Block, 727 TF shift kit, 452 heads, edelbrock 750 cfm, .513/.513 284/300 crower cam, comp cams springs, comp cams pushrods, 1.5 roller rockers, dp intake, mopar ignition, mopar windage tray, dual exhaust w/ 40 series flowmasters, 4.10 gears, coilover drag suspension, approx, 3500 lbs

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6/29/2004
13:13:27

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The trans is computer controlled, so you'll need some kind of control box. I don't recall seeing one for a Dodge, but I havn't really loked, either. Lentech would be a good place to start.

But, really, I wouldn't do it. I don't believe that AOD is strong enough for a big block. If you baby it and use a large cooler, it might last. But who wants to baby a big block? Sort of defeats the purpose.

Either get a specially built AOD, or stick with the 727 you have.



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6/29/2004
13:37:41

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The overdrive needs a 99cent toggle switch to activate it (up til the 1996 model). Flip the switch and the overdrive will engage after the 2-3 shift, and the converter will lock up shortly after.
JVX/Memphis Performance has a controller that allows you to set the speed you want the overdrive and lockup to occur, as well as keeping overdrive on while kicking down for a better passing gear....for a whole lot less than Mopar's new 5-speed auto.



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6/29/2004
16:23:59

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Listen to the guy who's done it, and ignore these other guys trying to tell you how to control a tranny you can't even bolt up. One post does it.

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6/29/2004
20:53:37

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Aww Damn! And don't go to the following page and order the $540 adapter that makes it possible to do what "they" say can't be done.
http://www.transmissioncenter.net/dodge.htm
Scroll about 3/4 down the page. It's listed with a couple other adapters.



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6/30/2004
15:59:55

RE: Tranny help and engine swap
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Gen1 - never said it can't be done with an adapter, just said that tranny he has won't bolt up. I also suggested using an expensive adapter to bolt up a weaker tranny might not be the best idea in another thread this guy posted; that's why IntenseDak39 and I are trying to clue him in he doesn't need to post the same thing in so many places. You never adressd that issue in your initial post; thats the most important thing you'd need to know.

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6/30/2004
22:11:55

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Actually, I have addressed this, only in one of the other 1/2 dozen postings he's made. First and foremost, the best solution is to use a properly built 727 and add a Gear Vendors overdrive if OD is a must-have. However, JVX/Memphis Performance can build even an A500, not to mention A518 that'll handle all he'll get from a hot street 440, the overdrive will live, and ATF+4 would be an option, not a necessity. Now, it won't be cheap, but it can be done for under $3500 including the adapter. The Gear Vendors unit would be around $2000 plus labor...give or take.




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7/01/2004
01:05:18

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OUCH!!! Checked out the Gear Vendors site. They've gone up! More like $2500-$2900 plus labor. But then again, it's one serious piece of hardware.



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