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MACE
Dodge Dakota
7/18/2001
13:18:13
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Finally got some pictures of my Flame Red 2001 DAK QC up...showing some exterior mods and Intense Peformance Z-tube with their new 9 inch Pro-Flow Filter....what do you think:
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=1752860&a=13504569&f=0
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DarkFury
Dodge Dakota
7/18/2001
14:47:24
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Nice truck, but honestly, I think the wing is "over the top"... (I like wings on cars, but they just don't do it for me on trucks)
But if you like it... that's all that really matters right?
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Chuck
Dodge Dakota
7/18/2001
22:33:17
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Very Nice.
Any noticable improvement in MPG after adding the Z tube and duals?
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MACE
Dodge Dakota
7/19/2001
10:24:13
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The duals (and chip) got added before the z-tube.
At that point, best MPG was 18.1, so I'd say the duals did indeed improve MPG somewhat, prior to their install.
Since the z-tube (also addded 180 t-stat and 3923s at the same time), MPG is creeping back up to 18.1, best to date is 17.7 MPG...too much fun factor and heavy right foot involved...I need to do a nice trip and keep it mellow to see if I can achieve 18.1 again.
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surferpug
Dodge Dakota
7/21/2001
00:48:50
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Where did you get the wing. Man that is a good gag gift for other Dak owners. Sorry about my sarcasasm but I don't see the aesthetic appeal of a wing, unless it serves a purpose
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mbbankk
Dodge Dakota
7/21/2001
01:03:58
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what is the jet chip stage II?
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B.T
Dodge Dakota
7/21/2001
11:12:29
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Sorry, but it looks like you're turning your truck into a ricer with that wing. But that's just my opinion!
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MACE
Dodge Dakota
7/23/2001
08:53:06
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Keep those opinions coming!
The wing is indeed for looks but the extra weight is also a benefit for being over the rear axle and promoting less hopping over bumps...but yes, more form over function, I wanted my DAK to have different look...kinda like go ask a woman why she gets breast implants...to be noticed!
Re: a ricer look, nah, that would be a lowered DAK with all sorts of lower body cladding...my opinion.
The chip is to alter signals to the trucks PCM for some more umph...seems to be working fine so far. Our 2001 PCM have no Mopar upgrades, so it's either a chip or custom flash (about twice as much).
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Dr.Q
Dodge Dakota
7/23/2001
21:25:33
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You could just cut all the crap and have your penis lengthened. Meanwhile you could stuff a cucumber in your shorts it would probobly give you the same effect. A WING ON A TRUCK what are you thinkin'son IT'S A TRUCK. All you need to do is put one of big muffler tips ground effects a stink load of stickers and you'd get the same effect...a set of hydralics some neon lights a womp womp stereo...and oh yea a chihuahua in the back window with its head bouncin' to and fro homey.
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kennungesser
Gen III
7/23/2001
21:46:55
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I kindda like it,gives it that unique look,makes it your own.
Kenneth l Nungesser
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jj
Dodge Dakota
7/23/2001
21:55:03
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Mace I Think Your Truck Looks GREAT ! Keep Up The Good Work !! jj
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mbbankk
Dodge Dakota
7/23/2001
22:09:58
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yes, it is nice..
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yuk
Dodge Dakota
7/24/2001
10:13:37
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Hey Jack$%$#!!! It's a 4x4, what are you puttin' a wing on it for? Looks like a Ricer on steroids.
JUNK IT!!
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MACE
Dodge Dakota
7/24/2001
15:07:56
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Hey yuk, thanks for the great advice, I'll go out and do that right now...
BTW, lets see some pictures of your truck...what do you have???
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MACE
Dodge Dakota
7/24/2001
15:24:38
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DR.Q or can I call you dad?
What am I thinking, hmmm, have already posted why I had the wing put on...email me if you need to know more.
Disregarding the doggy, you've pretty much described what my son would do to the truck if he was old enough and had a license to drive, something IMHO I'd say: No way!
Hey dad, post some pictures of your truck, what kinda DAK do you have? Any body mods in mind (stay away from vegtables and prosthetics, nasty habit you got, dad)
Diggin these posts, seems the wing promotes what I call the Madonna effect....'You did what!', 'You showed what'! 'Hey, keep it up, it's your's, ya got the right to do what ya wanna do' 'What, ban that b*tch!'
Wings, hmmm, spoilers on trucks, seems I've seen that before, oh yah, NASCAR, but true, they're more about function than form.
I admit 100% my wing is 99.9% form with .1% function for additional weight over the rear axle that the cover adds...
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Dr.Q
Dodge Dakota
7/24/2001
16:01:53
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Well no kidding that the "Wing" is 99.9% form with .01% function. Which is exactly my point. Astheticly, your making a statement. Then you place this statement on the web for the world to see that you have just put a perfectly useless piece of fiberglass fluff on a perfectly good 4X4. If this is the statement you want to make fine. In the seventies people wanted to make the statement "I'm with stupid". But, if this statement conjures my opinion of your lack of taste that's my buisness and my point.
BTW '01 Patriot Blue SLT RC 4.7 5 speed 3.92 stock
(tows boat it's stock too.)
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mbbankk
Dodge Dakota
7/24/2001
17:27:31
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dude why are you arguing about it?
Its his Dak, he likes the wing.. he keeps the
wing
you don't like the wing, you tell him you dont.
Just say you think its to much..
For christs sake it is his truck..
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Dr. Q
Dodge Dakota
7/24/2001
18:16:57
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Chill man, I have no doubt that MACE can take some razzin'. I mean he had the cojones to put it on the web then ask what we thought, right? I mean its one thing for a 300 lb welfare mom to be walkin' down the street in a tube top-BUT if she asks me what I think-who am I to lie to her?
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MACE
Dodge Dakota
7/25/2001
09:00:35
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Hey, thanks for the support for one doing whatever they want to THEIR truck!
I like the wing, no hell, I love the wing...nothing is gonna change my mind on that.
(But the pictures weren't posted just to glorify the wing)
Everyone is welcome to voice their opinons, even those smacking of being: anal, self-justification to be nasty, childish, insulting, or full of narcissism and self importance. (my opinion of some of the opinions posted)
The ones I start to ignore or lose respect for are those who think it's ok to ram their opinion down ones throat, thinking their right and everyone else is wrong...at that point, they have me confused with someone who gives a crap about what they think.
I could say the above type opinions stink like...axxholes but I won't (I just did though, didn't I?)
But ya know, sometimes it's just a game, a little baiting and trolling...need bigger bait in this lake, though.
Anyhow, this isn't the only place where I asked: what do ya think of the truck, the positive posts far outweigh the negative ones....later!
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Dr. Q
Dodge Dakota
7/25/2001
11:39:39
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Oh, I'm sorry you shoulda said that all you could deal with is positive feedback I had no idea that your ego was so frail in the future I'll my opinions to myself. But I thought all you wanted was honest opiniions. Frankly I think its like puttina smile on the Mona Lisa-It's like putting screen doors on a submarine......It's like PUTTING A WING ON A 4X4! HA HA HA HA HA HA!
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MACE
Dodge Dakota
7/25/2001
13:04:24
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Whiz...plunk....nope, too small a piece of bait, try again.
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MikeK
Dodge Dakota
7/25/2001
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Your killin' me! You got cucumbers, 300 pound welfare mothers in tube tops finally this screen doors on a submarine thing. Lighten up mace what do you care what people thing you drive that thing in public-right?
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Dr.Q
Dodge Dakota
7/25/2001
13:53:51
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Tighten all the muscles in your body.....count to ten.....relax.... breathe deeply and repeat to your self "It's only a truck. It's only a truck." (albeit a darn good one-
'cept for that hokey wing)
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MACE
Dodge Dakota
7/25/2001
15:36:44
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Doc, your fishing license is gonna get revoked, you're not trying hard enough or using the right bait...humor is cool though.
MikeK, lighten up? Hell no, I'm having too much fun getting right back in the face of those with opinions a bit stronger than: 'no, I don't like it'...I should be able to, there is no double standard.
As they say, if your gonna enter into a battle of wits, ensure your opponent is armed (otherwise, it's a waste of time)
As for personal/verbal face to face opinions of the truck, it's not just all about the wing.
I got invited to a car show, one comment (positive) on the wing, many (all positive) on the z-tube and that big honking 9 inch filter...now Doc, how does your taste in what one should do to their truck, pertain to the z-tube?
Care to comment on the mods to your truck, post a picture or two?
Keep 'em coming boys!
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Dr.Q
Dodge Dakota
7/25/2001
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Look MACE I was reading through your posts and it seems what we got here is a difference of philosophy. What rally trips my trigger about my dakota is that is a total sleeper. Frankly I was looking just for a basic truck that would tow a boat. The dealer had my truck on the lot and cut me a good deal to get rid of it. Now i didn't really become aware of its potential until the spring thaw when I got all the sandbags outta the bed and could open her up. I didn't realize what a quick package it was (4.7 RC SLT 5-speed 3.92) untill I started cruising this website. I never had much patience for the excess gee gaw look- if you ask me you might as well be driving a honda w/ground effects,neon, womp womp stereo etc. which if you asked me are the spupidest looking rat boxes. Cuz all the modifications in the world isn't going to turn it into a porsche. For me the only thing I need to say that this truck is "my own" is the title. As for all the razzing I've been giving you-You left your self wide open for it. I don't know you for jack squat, all I know is your some dude that asked me what I thought of his inane wing. You asked for my opinion and yea I gave you a harsh critique. Now you can take it like a man or keep on whining about a personal vendetta that I have. (although bustin' your stones has been more fun then what I've had in while) So before we duke it out by the railroad tracks after school so you can you defend the honor of your truck-remember it's just a truck. And all the wings in the world isn't gonna make it any faster. You've got the basic mod package going-cat back/chip cold air intake. But its still not gonna make up for the fact that it weighs about 900 to 1100 lbs more than my truck. The only thing I'm planning to add is a hard tonneau cover and cd changer. Now i'm not saying my little truck is faster but do the math, this thing flys, and you could never tell by lookin-which makes it a beautiful thing. (even without a gaudy and useless wing) I mean if you want to communicate to the world that your the type of person who needs to add a useless and gaudy wing to his truck to fulfill somekind of need to be "cool",more power to you. In 1984 I thought that this red leather jacket with all these zippers (a la Micheal Jacksonwas) was cool-I only wore it once-what i was thinkin' I LOOKED LIKE AN IDIOT when I bought it I don't know. I saw that picture the otherday and laughed my fool head off. Mabe some day in the future you can develope a sense of humor about yourself and realize that putting a wing on a 4X4 tells the world I'm the type of person that would put a wing on a 4X4. If you look like an idiot thats OK you'll survive.
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The Goto Guy
Dodge Dakota
7/25/2001
18:47:09
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I'm not going to get into it about what you should or shouldn't do but I don't think it matches the truck. I don't know if it's the size (too small) or the form (too straight). It just doesn't sit right to me with the overall look of the truck. Now I don't like the ventguard things on the windows either but appearently nobody thinks that's worth giving you a hard time over. :)
If you like it more power too you. The only thing that I would want to make clear is that you shouldn't put this kinda thing on credit. I don't know if you did or not and it's not my business. I just see a lot of guys that get themselves into trouble over things they think they must have and two years later when their still paying it off they think "I don't even have that trendy thing anymore.".
A friend of mine had a custom speaker box and a new $500 cd player installed (not like anything was wrong with the ones he had) then a month later couldn't make his payment and it all went bye bye to the repo man. That just didn't make any sense to me.
The Goto Guy
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MACE
Dodge Dakota
7/26/2001
10:22:45
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Doc, nice novel (my turn now, and apologies to all you other fine folks)
Feel better getting that off your chest? I guess a simple no I don't like it from you (I have no problems with 'NO'), just won't do. Pretty anal about this, aren't ya? Now I've lured the real doc out (pet)
Sit down, shut up and show me the pictures!
My truck has a wing on it, you don't like, you're being childish, nasty, insulting and anal about it, now I don't care, so get over your double standard of saying my truck is my own thing.
You're starting to go to the 'my truck is better than your truck' smackdown...I don't care! (besides you're truck isn't...nah nah nah)
Come on, open up and tell us what you really think about body mods, seems you're a little anal about keeping a stock or sleeper look, but if that's your personal taste and you don't like form over function...that's your business, but I don't need it rammed down my throat.
Show me the pictures! (like I actually want to see them now)
Oh, did I say you're being real anal about the wing? You expressed your 'manly' opinion, now Get Over It and Move On!
BTW, you should keep wearing that red leather jacket (remember what made you get it in the first place). Looking like a idot (your opinion, not mine) probably fits you just fine.
Having fun yet? (sorry to the other folks that aren't interested in this crap, but he started it, it is getting rather boring, so I'll stop soon, as by now, we both have made our points)
DAK content: gonna take off the 3 inch chrome tips, put on two 12 inch coffee can tips, lower this baby so the gas tank drags, buy every Dodge/Mopar sticker made (for HP increases of course) and plaster every window with 'em, get a stadium sound system mounted on the tonneau cover, and buy some real bright green offset wheels that stick out sooo far that they'll rub the curb on the other sides of the street...then go looking for a bone stock, sleeper looking truck and race 'em up, down by the tracks, and show them what individuality is, having some balls and creativity for doing some 'body' mods to MY truck...
So doc, how about continuing this discussion as adults, sans the nasty, insulting, girly comments, or is that the only way you know how to express yourself?
Warning, adult feedback: I'm really ok with the fact that you hate the wing!
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MACE
Dodge Dakota
7/26/2001
10:34:01
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Hey Goto:
Thanks for the feedback...I've seen some wings that are very radical in design and almost toyed with a NASCAR truck style spoiler, but went with the A.R.E. setup.
Re: the visors, those are a function thing, they allow the windows to be cracked with out letting rain in when driving, also when parked on a hot day, can crack the windows for some airflow and not worry about those typical summer rain storms that can pop up without notice.
Re: credit, yah, I learned my lesson when I was younger and thought the money tree would never dry up...all mods have been bought and paid for, so I own them, not some bank or credit card company.
Anyhow, body mods pretty much done, moving onto final engine mods, that being Flowmetrics 70mm TB and IAT adjuster...gotta decide at what point to stop and give the wallet a vacation.
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Dr.Q
Dodge Dakota
7/26/2001
11:03:24
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What's the matter with you boy? Didn't your mamma pay enough attention to you as a child?
Do you know who Louis B. Sullivan is? He developed the concept of form following function
Do you know who Freud is? Do you know what the word "anal" means when referring to a perons personality. Do you know what the word perseveration means? Do you know what the term ad hominem means? Judging by your posts I'd say not not even a C- son. But what I know is that your the type of guy that thinks opening a check book equals good taste. I also know that I can play you like I own you. I mean really, I ought to pay you for the amount of entertainment you've provided me. In the words of Bugs Bunny-"What a maroon!"
Playing you like a coho,
Dr.Q
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MikeK
Dodge Dakota
7/26/2001
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Am I going to have to separate you two?
Just let it go y'all.
But I must admit that anybody who quote Full Metal Jacket,Freud and bugs Bunny and that Latin stuffn in a single post-cracks me up. I'll check back tomarrow but behave your selves-be good.
P.S. what's a coho?
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Yuk
Dodge Dakota
7/26/2001
20:20:48
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Hey there "Winged Mace" Happy to give my opinion!
My truck? '00 Dakota CC 4x4,4.7, with headers-airaid intake-Gibson cat-back, 180 T-stat(no fan clutch) and 3.92 in the rear. No wing!! But, it flies!
Sorry it's been a few days since I replied but been busy with work.
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BADDAK
Dodge Dakota
7/26/2001
22:05:31
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So I'm flipping through the cable channels and stop on MTV and thet're playing some Big Pimpin' sort of crap and this guy starts going on about how cool it is that he got all his teeth replaced with diamond encrusted platinum caps. I've been following this thread and it reminded me of you if you think that your 4X4 pimpmobile is cool that's all that matters. Dr.Q lay off on the boy, he sounds like he's just about to pop a sprocket.
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Chitown Dak
Dodge Dakota
7/27/2001
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Now why y'all bustin' on my man mace so rough, I think that the wing looks awsome! How much more is the cover with the wing than without? Now I don't want to hear no more smack talk about man's taste in dental work! Ole' mace has himself a mighty fine ride, and its given me a few ideas...yes...yes...A wing, curb feelers that light up..a licence plate frame with the lights that go around and around some pink velour carpeting to protect the dashboard that imitation convertable cover that looks soooo good on my partners '75 de Ville and the piece of resistance a set of fuzzy dice just drippin' with pine air freshener
p.S.Just found a place where they sell those imitation white walls that stick on with velcro, let me know if your interested.
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MikeK
Dodge Dakota
7/27/2001
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Yea, here in Missouri I've noticed alot of people embraceing the gold tooth look. Its beyond me. Hey I told y'all to behave not be gone-it was getting to be like a cat fight at a bar you know, pointless but you can't stop watching. Yo Chitown they still sell all that stuff outta the J.C. Whitney catalog? Peace.
'00 SLT 4X4
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koz
Dodge Dakota
7/27/2001
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Wow, what a thread! I read almost every post THEN I decided to look at the pictures. #3 shows a good look at the wing, and honestly, the way the "fuss" was going, you'd think the thing came off a SuperBird or something. It's a little wild, definitely, but well within the parameters of sanity! If it were me, I'd be more embarrassed by the minivan sitting next to it in my driveway.... -Al
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HectorH
Dodge Dakota
7/27/2001
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This is a true story :My dad finally got the cash up for his first new truck, so he buys himself a 1987 Ford F-150 6-cyl. Put a nice cab on it. it looked choice---until he drives it down to his hometown in Mexico. It comes back with lights on the visor and along the running board and these two sticks attached to the bumpers that had this multicolored lights that blinked AND a giant Virgin Mary on that back with lights around it. But the topper the horn plyed "la Cucaracha" I swear I'm not making any of this up. I never had the heart to tell him what I thought I guess some people thought it looked like a Mexican "Pimpmobile" but what can I say the man loved his truck.
Now the reason I wrote in in the first place Its getting to be time to get a new truck and I refuse to go GM and the F-150's are really overpriced. As far as the dodges go just about everybody loves them-couple of lemons. Would it be wiser to wait for the new modles or try to find a deal in stock?
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Dr.Q
Dodge Dakota
7/27/2001
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No fresh fish today.
But speaking of gold teeth, I working at the E.R and this homey comes limpin' in reeking of reefer and a mouth full of gold teeth with his name spelled out in diamonds "MIKE" telling me he just got outta jail and that his toe was killing him. The toe is all nasty and had an infected ingrown nail. So the whole time I'm taking the nail off I'm bustin' his stones about the gold teeth you know what he did he laughed-try it some time MACE its good for you. (although if I gave him a hard time on his block he probobly would have popped a cap in my a**.)
Hector , My old man had a 1973 LTD station wagon that was OK in his day until 1980 when the rust monster was eating the thing up-what does he do he puts another engine in it and keeps it for seven more years! It never amazes me what people fall in love with. I mean somebody got that three hundred pound welfare mother pregnant in the first place, right?
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DarkFury
Dodge Dakota
7/27/2001
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C'mon now people... not everyone goes for the "stereotypes" that are being portrayed here.
And even though I don't dig on wings on a truck, but I do have a wing on my car (not a "ricer" wing mind you...) Here's a pic...
I also have a fairly large stereo (2 12" woofers in the trunk with about 500 Watts of power) however everything was professionally installed and doesn't scream out "Hey... I want some attention! Lookit me!"
So does this mean I have a "pimpmobile"?
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DarkFury
Dodge Dakota
7/27/2001
16:54:19
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Oh... and so nobody gets upset that I posted a Ford on the Dakota page... here is a pic of my Dak...
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Blizzard
Gen III
7/27/2001
18:16:27
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T-Bird AND the Dak ... nice rides! Wing or no wing!
'01 QC 4x4
5.9L, 3.92 LSD, loaded
www.geocities.com/blizzzzard69
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Hubba Bubba
Dodge Dakota
7/27/2001
18:17:47
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Oh MY GAWD has this gotten funny!!! I love it. You guys are bustin me up!!!!
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