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BigPitty
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5/29/2004
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This post is intended for anybody with a Black or Dark Colored Dak. I just recently bought a 2004 BLACK Quad Cab. It just amazed me how horrible the paint was when I picked it up, even after specifically telling the dealer not to touch the paint.
After digging into my $200+ collection of famous car washing/polishing/waxing/detailing products, I soon found out that nothing would fix any of this. From Mothers to Meguires, I even have the Mr. Clean Auto Dry Car Wash, and it still failed to completely remove 100% of the waterspots on this black paint. I still had scratches, swirlmarks, fresh waterspots and if you left those to sit in the sun for more than a few hours, they would soon develop into thin white round etched-in-rings. And what really ticked me off was every single one of my touch-up-cleaners/detailers would smear into the paint and leave marks. I don't know if it is just black paint, or just a horrible paint job at the factory.
So after trying everything I decided to order the Zaino Bros' Total Protection Show Car Kit ($84). This may seem initially steep in price at first, but after you use everything with the kit, you can get away with just Z-5, and Z-6 ($30). You also won't need a buffer because you apply this by hand and it's so easy to apply and remove. AMAZINGLY after around 6 hours or so of washing with dawn, claybaring, washing with Zaino Car Wash, Applying Z-5, Z-6, Z-5, Z-6, Z-2, and finally a last quick wipe down with Z-6 (Quick Waxer/Detailer), my paint was COMPLETELY clean. Absolutely no scratches, swirlmarks, or waterpots what so ever. I have never seen a black vehicle, especially a truck, without any scratches. I mean every square inch was spotless. I can literally drive my truck just by looking at the hood. From the drivers seat, my hood is an exact clear image of the road ahead of me (of course flipped).
When I spray my truck with my powerwasher, waterbeads fly every direction, it compares to nothing else. It's like I spray it, and the paint will not hold any water. The first time I scrubbed it, I couldn't even feel the paint it was so smooth. I ended up missing a few spots because I couldn't tell where I washed. My truck shines like a mirror clean or dirty. It just rained almost 7 days in a row here in Missouri and after all of the mud that accumulated on my paint, my truck still outshined anything on the road (even clean vehicles). I dunno what's in this stuff but it rocks. One layer of wax alone last A LONG TIME, but with each layer applied, they layer unlike anything else (About 90% of all other waxes contain polishers to remove the previous layer of wax).
Just thought I would post my experience with Zaino. If anybody wants to see pictures of my truck now, I will email them to you.
2004 4.7L AWD 5-Speed Auto Quad Cab,
K & N Homebrew Intake, Flowmaster Delta Flow 40 Series, Zaino Wax, Infinity Basslink Subwoofer
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Daniel
Dodge Dakota
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5/29/2004
14:00:28
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Hey thanks for the info, but you say you can get by with just Z-5 and Z-6. Can I just buy the Z-5 and Z-6 products for 30 dollars? And if so where can I get those?
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BigPitty
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5/29/2004
23:19:25
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Yea you can definately get away with the Z-5 and Z-6. What color is your truck by the way? Also I will send pics if you want before you buy it. I originally purchased the whole kit to test it out. I got tired of spending hundreds of dollars on other stuff which didn't work, so I just wanted to make sure I didn't go wrong. The whole kit consists of a claybar, Z-1, Z-2, Z-5, Z-6, and there carwash product.
The claybar is used to remove any and all road/factory/airport contaminents as well as any old wax. Meaning diesal fuel from big rigs, factory and airport contaminents and lots of other things. It just ensures your paint is absolutly clean before applying there stuff. It also is supposed to give you an even deeper gloss as well. Personally I didn't see a difference. However you do need to wash your truck with Dawn Dishwasher Soap then any other good carwash soap. Dawn removes old wax just like it removes dirt, grime, etc off of dishes.
Z-1 is only used to mix with Z-2 or Z-6. It's just an accelerator for the wax. Meaning it just allows you to apply multiple layers of wax after each other versus having to wait 24 hours before applying another layer of wax (You don't have to garage your vehicle over night to wait for more wax). It's not really necessary but it did initially take two layers of Z-5 to remove every scratch, swirlmark, etc. off of my black paint.
Z-2 is just used for a final coat. It's 100% free of any chemicals that are used to make an attempt to remove any surface blemishes. It's also supposed to give you an even deeper shine but I didn't see a difference. Z-5 just like all of there other waxes doesn't contain any chemicals so Z-5 is just fine.
Z-6 is sweet. I use it after every wash to remove any waterspots, after each layer of wax, and to touch up my truck whenever it gets dirty. It will remove anything and extremely easy. All of the other touch up detailers just smeared on my paint and scared it. It also DID make my shine deeper. However it is so strong I mixed it 66% Z-6 and 33% water. They say you can even go 50/50 but I didn't won't to take any chances. HIGHLY RECOMMENDED.
There carwash stuff smells good just like all of there other products but I can't tell any difference from any other good carwash stuff.
So yes in my opinion Z-5, and Z-6 is good enough. But one key thing ESPECIALLY on Black or Dark Colored Vehicles is that you have to use 100% True Pima or Supima Cotton Bath Towels from a Bed Bath & Beyond or major Department Store. Walmart and other stores selling these towels make cheaper version that will scratch your paint. I bought two Bath Size Towels from Bed Bath & Beyond and it cost me $15 for both. It may sound extremely crazy but I tried other detailing towels that claimed to be 100% cotton or I even tried microfiber towels and they did scratch my paint. The same goes for any washing and drying towels. If you have any other questions where you can find these towels or anything else, post it and I will answer back. Also I will email pics if you want.
You can purchase it at either http://www.zainostore.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc
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http://www.lazaino.com/index.html#Ordering
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Daniel
Dodge Dakota
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5/30/2004
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Awesome, thanks for the info. I was actually just curious cuz i have a few major scratches from offroading that I would like to get rid of. My email address is dan@anotherside.net if you can send me some pics. Again thanks for the info.
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Daniel
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5/30/2004
03:11:19
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Oh sorry, my truck is red, is that too light of a color for it to work?
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wakely
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5/30/2004
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BigPitty:
Please send pictures to wakely1940@msn.com
My 2004 QC is all white.
Thanks
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WicKed R/T
Dodge Dakota
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5/30/2004
20:11:02
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As far as the bath towels go, really the only thing you shoudl look for is that they are made in the USA and are 100% cotton. There are a lot of helpful tips on the zaino site. www.zainostore.com
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Dr. D
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5/30/2004
20:45:09
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I use the MALCO Flash and the AMSOIL Pro-Formula Polish.
The Malco Flash is only available at automotive detailing
wholesalers and can be difficult to find.
I do plan on trying the Zaino products so that I can do a good
comparison.
Dr. D
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forexfour
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6/01/2004
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Zaino will provide the best highest gloss shine to any color. The swirl/scratcher remover works great as a first coat to scrathed vehicles.
It is the best wax to use by far!
Chris
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Mr.Sleepy
Dodge Dakota
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6/01/2004
16:23:34
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Zaino is the finest wax bar none! If you have the time and the elbow grease this will produce results beyond imagination! Use the clay bar polish kit and you will love yourself and your finish for months!
Please please please do NOT buy Zymol from Autozone or Murrays this is a rip-off/knock-off of Zaino. I use Zaino on my 69 olds cutlass and it looks like showroom paint job every time!
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xplikt
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6/01/2004
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I've been a Zaino user for over two and a half years now, but now there's another product that comes REALLY close to Z2+ZFX. It's Meguire's NXT. It's not in all stores yet (our local Checker). I know Autozone and Shucks has it. it's much easier to apply and gives the EXACT same finish. This last weekend I just washed my tailgate with Dawn and a claybar. It hasn't been waxed since about last October. I put a piece of tape right down the middle. One side was Zaino, the other side was NXT. I put on three coats of each.
In the end. NO DIFFERENCE. Not even when I took it down a dirt road or washed it. Beads and attracts dust the same. I took the tape off so I'd have a really good line to compare it to. They both has the same wet look to them. Both of them did a great job, but they were the same. I have a bunch of pics, I just havn't got them onto my server yet.
They are both identical..
..'cept NXT is $17.
It's a huge debate on the net right now, but give it a shot and you make your own choice. Zaino finally has some real competition.
-Mike
http://www.dodgetruckworld.com/xplikt/
2002 2WD RC SLT 4.7L 5spd 4.56 LSD
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goammo
Dodge Dakota
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6/08/2004
22:54:27
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I have never heard of that wax however, when the dealer screwed up my 1997 Dakota, Red truck at 2000 miles which was turned in for a free oil change(scratched paint and broke rear window, long story)they did a crappy job repairing it. When I threatened a lawsuit and challenged them with some stated lies they told me they asked for one more time to work on the truck. They had the guys who work on their vipers work on it and they did an amazing Job. Among money to please me they gave me a container Ardex Gold Supreme 4202 wax (used on their vipers). I must say I have used it ever since and my truck still looks new as evident when it is parked by my new red Durango. I used the last of it last week on the Durango and plan to try and get some more from the company (as it is not readily available). It does not streak and lasts and lasts. Just my input on waxes.
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Lurkin
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6/14/2004
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I haven't tried Zaino, but I did try the NXT this last weekend.
It's definitely much easier to apply then regular wax. Much, much less wax dust (advertised as none, but wrong...), nice finish (my truck is white, so it's hard to see big differences), and, on the most minor note, it doesn't reek of petroleum vapors like other waxes/polishes.
I paid $15 at an O'Reilly auto parts store. More expensive, but I will keep using it.
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PLL
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6/14/2004
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I just applied the NXT this last weekend too. It went on easy and looks great. I haven't tried Zaino yet so I can't compare...but after using the NXT I don't see any reason to change. Hopefully the coating will last a while.
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paint
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6/14/2004
23:23:18
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does the number of times u wax ur truck in a row make a diff? and whats a good polish to use?
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