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y22man
Dodge Dakota
7/18/2001
13:16:57
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But lets get back to my original post.
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I have a buddy here at work that has a '98 4 door accord. He has put a exhaust and some mods under the hood. He is into his 4 banger accord less than what I walked off the lot with my truck. He runs 13's on the track. If you looked at it you would not know. You would not even know it was tricked out if you looked at it with the eception of the exhaust tip. That is the car I want. One that does not look it but will toast anything. Almost. It is at the top of the food chain anyhow.
Jay
He has a car that runs 13s for less than I walked off the lot with my truck. You can not tell his is "riced out". My def of riced out is modified jap car. He is modified. He is into his car 21000 I am into my truck without mods 21300. If I wanted a fast car I said This is one I would def. look at. This is more apples to apples. I don't care about those pro cars. I will never own one. I am just posting some possiblilitys to previous posts. O should there be any oposition in the world. Gee I wonder why we broke away from England. Wait wonder why my ansesters came here. Well Heck there should be a dictator to tell what to do. I know this is extreme. But I think you are getting what I am shooting at. Causes good convo. Look at this post. There has been some good convo with out getting hastey. I appreciate it. It makes people think for a sec. Whatever you do don't think for yourselfs.
Jay
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kota on 20s
Dodge Dakota
7/18/2001
13:18:04
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TOP FUEL IS NOT A FUEL!!!
it is a catigory in NHRA these are the catigory's
top fuel (dragsters)
funny cars
prostock cars, trucks, and bikes
pro street
nitro methane is the fuel that the dragsters and funny cars burn to go fast. some of the pro street run alcohol (not the stuff you drink)
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kota on 20s
Dodge Dakota
7/18/2001
13:27:48
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i got my 98 for 18100 im now in it for about the same as your friend (2100 give or take a coulple of hundred) the only engine mods i have done is intake, TB, cat back gibson, 3923's and 180 t-stat. im not into it for the speed i know its a truck that weighs over 4k...i just want a little more power out of it. if i wanted to go fast i would have got a camaro or stang.
i am more into the looks and style of my truck than the power
Eric
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y22man
Dodge Dakota
7/18/2001
13:34:35
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I am as well. That is why I am driving my truck. I am posting a car that I would look at. I am saying this car does not look riced out. And it is running 13s. I like speed. But I like wheeling and towing much better. This is under a riced out post on the DAK site last time I looked.
Jay
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kota on 20s
Dodge Dakota
7/18/2001
13:56:31
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ok the car you are talking about is cool, i just hate the 5" tips and so on. im not a big fan on nos because its not on all the time.( i like the power to be on all day and night)
I do LOVE power but think its a waste of money to dump thousands into a TRUCK that weighs over 2 tons.
I personally would buy a camaro that costs the same as a accord and does 13's stock and up grade from there. im sure the nos voided your friends warrenty.
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Mar
Dodge Dakota
7/18/2001
17:25:49
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The eagle talon is made by misibithie which is japanise so if you new someone that was killed in one. Hand it to the japs.
As for drag racing i went the camaro way. I prefur to hit the gas and get the same result everytime rather then filling up a NOS tank. I got a race camaro with a 358 bolted up to a T-10 4 speed manual. It is a pure cascar set up. I can go 0-60 in 4.6 secs and can do it everytime with out filling up the bottle. On top of that i spent a lot less money building a camaro to go this fast compaired to the money i would have had to lay down to get a civic or accord to do it.
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y22man
Dodge Dakota
7/18/2001
18:15:07
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What does DC slap their badge on any old car. Hmmmmm sounds like quality control there. You are telling me that you bought a new camero and moded it out to do 4.6. How much did that cost ya. I am still at 21000. 2 door z28 msrp from chevy is 21875. I am still cheeper.
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Mar
Dodge Dakota
7/18/2001
22:25:07
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No i bought a 1986 camaro for $1200 can put about 30000 canadain dollars in it and did favors and got a lot of stuff for free. Traded in parts (you know how it goes.) The last thing i got was a T-10 tranny and a flowmaster exhaust. Now i will drive it for a year or two and sell it. 30000 can dollars would have just bought me a ok civic and after the other 30000 can $ to make it go that fast i would be smarter to save for a Z06 vette.
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y22man
Dodge Dakota
7/19/2001
10:33:12
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Well if you are talken that old ya. If you look at all my posts I was talking NEW. My bro had a brother that bought a older stang. It was like a '7? something. He put a cheep earl shieb paint job and moded it out. It could skwell into 4th and lift the tires. He mad a lot of money with it. People looked at it and said no way. Well who was laughen at the end of the race.
No reply to DC slapen their badge on any old car?
Jay
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Mar
Dodge Dakota
7/19/2001
11:06:30
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DC doesnt slap there badge on any old car the own a big percentage of mistibitishe which i heard was the best japanise auto maker. So well DC is busy making trucks that go faster then japaniese cars they dont have the time to make another car for losers to mod out so they shared with Mistibitishe. But after many complaints and the same old seat breaking japaniese problems they stopped the talon and killed of eagle.
When you sit in your civic or what ever type R you own and your at a light and a dodge dakota pulls up beside you and revs his engine you grab you momo shifter and hold on to your grant steering wheel. You press your feet on your strap on fake steel pedles and wait for the light to go green. Finnally it does and the coast is clear. But you got so nervous that you accually jumped the light so your already in the intersection. You then glance over you crome fire Extinguisher to see the dakota whip by you so fast that it hurt your neck to watch it.
Thats when you realize. You're not a wuss. You're just...DOMESTICATED...
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y22man
Dodge Dakota
7/19/2001
11:59:59
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Oh thats why they discontinued the Talon. I alway wondered why. Hmmmm wonder why they discontined the Plymoth Laser. Same as the talon and eclise. But they killed way before the talon. I think they disconuned it because it did not profible to have the car. If you saw my posts I have a DAK. That is what I wanted. I am saying If I was buying a car NEW and wanted to mod it out. I would go with a Accord. I would not even mod a car out to tell you the truth. That is why I would go with the nissan Maxima. if you read any of my other posts mainly the first you under stand what I would do with the car as well.
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I have a buddy here at work that has a '98 4 door accord. He has put a exhaust and some mods under the hood. He is into his 4 banger accord less than what I walked off the lot with my truck. He runs 13's on the track. If you looked at it you would not know. You would not even know it was tricked out if you looked at it with the eception of the exhaust tip. That is the car I want. One that does not look it but will toast anything. Almost. It is at the top of the food chain anyhow.
Jay
Jay
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Hersbird
Dodge Dakota
7/19/2001
19:06:06
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y22man- you are comparing the cost of a 4x4 CC v-8 dakota to an accord. The dakota almost always has $1500 rebates and now has $2000. So as I said a RC dakota with 4.7 and 5 speed will cost $13,000. (if you join the farm bureau for $40 you get another $500 off that) If a 4.7 5speed dakota will run a 14.8 then if you can't buy $1000 worth of mods to drop .8 secs then you truly are a ricer (wings and neon kits don't lower 1/4 mile times they increase them). For the .8 sec buy some drag radials and used 15" wheels (maybe $300), then drop the exhaust from the cat back (free), remove the spair, jack, tailgate, and rear bumper (free). make a cold air kit or buy one ($200 tops). Run a short belt to bypass everything but alternator and water pump ($6). With the leftover $494 I'd say a custom PCM and ported TB would be the way to go. Just the weight loss would be worth .3-.4, the slicks allow hookup and may even be good for a few 10ths more, the intake/exhaust mods should take care of the rest. This is easy stuff that could be done when you arrive at the track, if you wanted to get serious there are many more free/inexpensive gains to be had.
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kota on 20s
Dodge Dakota
7/19/2001
19:20:28
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hersbird, verry well said.
mar, im still LMAO!!! that was great
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Hersbird
Dodge Dakota
7/19/2001
19:22:05
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Oh man, you are talking about being able to use nitros? I take back the whole being able to hit hig 13's, I would now go with low 13's. same mods above just with the extra $500 to a 150 hp wetshot. If you were willing to drop $21000 then you have a total of $8000 to dump on a Dakota before you reach that modded civic price or even a stock Z28 price. There is no greater HP/dollar vehicle you can buy new, cheaper then a truck like jeffster's minus a few comforts. Talk about tink for yourself, Honda is the official car for those who can't think for themselves. Dodge is truly different.
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y22man
Dodge Dakota
7/20/2001
00:53:46
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If I wanted a RC that would be differnt, yes. But I want a rear seat. And 13000 for a 4.7. I am sure you could do it. Look to my previus post. RC sport is 16730. Minus 2000 14730. And yes I relize that is from dodge site. And that is cheeper than the Accord. Like I said I don't want that. I want the CC. That is why I went with it. Longer wheel base to tow and can help or hurt while wheeling. Mainly to tow. Besides witch the Accord is a much nicer ride than the DAK.
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If you are talking price that is something differnt. I was only pointing out the other side of the story. Besides. I don't know where you are getting your base numbers. I just ran the base of the base on both a dak and a accord if you want to get technical. 2001 Honda accord with a 4 banger (only way to get a stick). 15400 msrp. DAK RC (has to be sport or slt to get 4.7) 16730 msrp. I would compair the CC due to a back seat-18510 msrp. From dodge web site. They could be differnt at a dealer. I paid dealer posted invoice. (dealer never paies full invoice on vehicle they order.) When you order differnt story. Now the 2 vehicles in question.
And the Nitrus. Ya if you want to rebuild your motor after 2 shots. I am being extreme I know but. In order to do it right you need all the mods mentioned at preivious post plus some other work to the engine. Look at the Nitrus posts. In fact the general recomendation is to stay away form Nituos on the 4.7. They recomend the super charger.
And you pointed out a good point 4x4. If I am going to have a truck it better well be a truck with 4x4. I am not like most I use my 4x4. And don't get me wrong. I love my truck. Very peppy and quick for 4x4. I am just saying I would go for a car if I wanted to do all that too. I also look at resale value. Except on my truck. Cuz I like it. For the money it is more truck for the money compaired to the money. S-10 please. Toyota Tacoma Nice and peppy no torqe and a pansy truck. Ranger better, peppy and fit and finish is getting there. Dak for the same money with same options plus v8 and bigger. MMMM no brainer.
Maybe I dug a hole here but I will stand on the same ground. I would get a accord if I was going to trick it out. And previusly stated. I want it to look stock. With the exception of a pipe. And the whole thing about japs being loud. Chebbys, Fords, Dodge are freeking loud. Especially Fords and dodges diesel. I do not want no retarded fins that have 5 levels to them. No stickers. No lame white rear cornors.
Jay
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kota on 20s
Dodge Dakota
7/20/2001
03:19:15
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if you were to get a car to trick out you would get a 4-banger, 4-dood accord? why? if you were to get a car just to make it go fast why wouldent you get the lightest car you can find. it would make much more sence to get a hach back ford focus (which come stock with the bigger engine) and add the 50-75 shot of nos and smoke the famly sedan. and you still have $4000 to spend on more engine mods.
or do the smart thing and spend a tad more and get a stripped Z28 6speed, which will smoke a juced out ricer in stock form, and still keep the warenty. add a 150 shot of nos and you are in the 12's
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y22man
Dodge Dakota
7/20/2001
10:24:06
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Why comprimise confort? If you have read any of my posts. I do not want to Compleatly mod or "rice" it out. I would rather be comfortable in a car. I do not want to use a can opener every time I want to get out of the car. If that is what I was after that is what I would go after yes.
Jay
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Mike
Dodge Dakota
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3/27/2002
22:17:02
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I don't own a Dakota, but I'm feelin' you guys. I've got a barely streetable SBC powered '23 T-bucket street rod. I can't go 3 blocks without some punk in a '93 Civic trying to drag me. Please, Get real. I think some of them have been seeing way to much of a certian movie.
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Dr0p0ff
GenIII
3/28/2002
08:33:53
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guys, some of you are making good points. most of you.. are not. (that was a period after the 'are not') but the bottom line here is that if you're trying to compare your dak to an import CAR, then you're comparing apples to oranges. ANY vehicle with enough money into it will go fast. ANY vehicle. but after you rip the engine and driveline out of a given car/truck, and replace it with something else.. you're racing a home built car with the body of that given car. yeah? yup
Sgt G
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garod82
Dodge Dakota
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1/18/2003
05:08:42
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I have a 97' 4 door Accord EX, and I used to have a Dodge Dakota. My car is stock right now with just a couple of bolt-ons and a racing clutch(I'm doing the H22 swap in Feb.) Granted my 4 door weighs a grip, but I would smoke the hell out of a Dakota. On top of things most trucks are automatics anyway, it wouldn't even be a race. You guys have alot of good points about stupid kids getting a loud ass muffler welded on to their stock piping on there civics and thinking they have a fast car, but seriously though the only Dakota that would even be worth racing would be the R/T, and even that is still a 15 Second truck. Seriously though it's stupid to buy a truck and think you're going to race with it without putting some serious money into it. I can take $6k and go buy a gutted CRX and do an LS Vtec swap and have a 13 second car, there's really no comparison.
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