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heavymetal
Dodge Dakota
7/11/2001
21:20:28
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The book says 6 qts, but the dipstick reads ~ 1 qt high with 6 qts. Is this real or is the stick wrong? A previous post said there is a TSB?
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Hawkeye
Gen III
7/11/2001
21:29:04
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When I change the oil and filter mine takes 6 exactly.
'00 QC 4x4
4.7 3.55 LSD
32x11.50 BFG AT's
Green Thunder
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Python97
Dodge Dakota
7/11/2001
23:12:03
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I use 5 quarts and it reads perfect.
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Todd W
Dodge Dakota
7/12/2001
00:13:05
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You guys remembering to put oil in the filter before installing it? :0) That'll probally account for that ~1 quart extra!
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kj
Dodge Dakota
7/12/2001
00:53:36
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The book says six so that's what I put in and ignore the stick. I also use the large filter that the Mopar big block used.
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dakotapta
Dodge Dakota
7/12/2001
07:17:26
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We had this discussion before and if i remember
correctly there was a problem with many dipsticks
where they were stamped incorrectly?!?!? this
engine requires 6 quarts(5 pan, 1 filter) if you
use less than that then you could eventually hurt
the engine. If you don't believe me call your
local dealership service area and ask them!!!!
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LSett
Dodge Dakota
7/12/2001
09:12:30
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6 quarts per the owners manual
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loud4.7
Dodge Dakota
7/12/2001
10:03:50
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Could anyone tell me the p/n for the larger filter than the standard one ? The standard seems too small for a V-8 ! I use AC Delco filters, but i could try to cross ref. another brand if you guys are using a different brand......thanks for you help......
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sandman
Dodge Dakota
7/12/2001
10:30:28
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Guys if your are changeing oil every 7500 miles or 4 mounths then a larger filter will not do much for you. The quality of the filter media and anti drain back valve are the two most important items to compare. Here is an example. What would you rather have on your truck a realy large Fram that is intended for big block engines or the smaller Mobile 1 M204 filter. If you can manage to plug a quality filter of the correct size up I would like to know what type of abuse you are putting your truck through. The extra capacity is not significant in most applications especialy if you are already useing synthetic oil. Your truck requires 6 quarts.
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kj
Dodge Dakota
7/12/2001
23:38:27
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I use the Mobil 1 M1-301. The AC would be PF2 and the Wix would be 51515 along with the clone Napa Gold 1515. I've always subscribed to the philosophy of installing the biggest filter that space allows. I like the idea of more filtering area but to each his own. I also use Mobil 1 oil in my 4.7 Dak.
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CyberWolf
Dodge Dakota
7/13/2001
09:00:59
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Also remember that if you use a larger filter you may need to add about 1/2 quart. If you change your own oil be sure to fill the filter with oil before installing it. If you don't do that you are running your engine without oil for a few seconds on the first start up. Also, the filter will hold pretty close to a full quart. It may not look like it but try it and see. If you are not filling the filter first, your dipstick will read 1 quart over untill the filter gets filled.
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kj
Dodge Dakota
7/13/2001
11:08:08
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Yes, if possible you should always fill the filter with oil before you put it on the engine. I can only fill mine about half full without spilling any because of that small hole we are forced to reach through to access the filter. Unless you have small hands it's somewhat inconvenient to reach through with a filter in your hand.
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GJoyce
Dodge Dakota
7/13/2001
15:09:46
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yeah, kj,
I found that out the hard way!!
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kj
Dodge Dakota
7/13/2001
18:54:32
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Not to mention bringing a filter full of hot oil down and catching your thumb or knuckles and spilling it all over the place. Sometimes I think it might be better to stand on a milk crate and lean over the radiator to get the filter on/off. You've got my sympathy G.
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Ken1
Dodge Dakota
7/13/2001
21:23:27
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My QC 4.7 has the towing package with the oil cooler and it holds 6qts. if it didn't have the cooler would it still hold 6?
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kj
Dodge Dakota
7/13/2001
22:00:29
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Everything I've read says 6 quarts total. I use about 3/4 of a quart in the big series filter and the remaining 5.25 in the crankcase.
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billarf
Dodge Dakota
7/14/2001
05:06:17
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When I change my oil and filter on my '01 QC I use a two liter soda bottle with the bottom cut out and the top on tightly. I reach up through the access hole and slightly loosen the oil filter and then slip the cut soda bottle up through the access hole and over the filter. I then squeeze the soda bottle and turn to unscrew the filter inside. When the filter is loose it drops down in the soda bottle and I lower all down through the access hole and NO, no oil mess. OH, I do double glove with latex gloves as the soda bottle and filter are quite hot.
Anyway, the way I do it. No, my hands are not real small..and no I do not have a skid plate. Bill in NY using Mobile 1
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A Rittner
Dodge Dakota
12/21/2001
11:49:29
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Here's an interesting addition to this thread... (to me anyway).
When I was changing my oil on my 2002 4.7L QC for the first time, something odd happened. The engine was hot, and I had the truck up on ramps. I opened the fill cover, drained the oil, and removed the filter. By the time I removed the filter, the oil was done draining, except for the occasional drip. Now, not being in any hurry, I was standing around and talking with my dad about the truck, just looking over the engine and stuff. Probably a good 10 minutes passed after I had removed the filter and all.
Suddenly, we both hear this weird hissing noise in what appeared to be the driver's side of the engine compartment. While I'm peeking in to see what's wrong, the engine spits out another gout of oil into the drain pan, then stops after a little bit. I shake the truck a few times, and about 10 seconds after I finish shaking it, it lets out another spit of oil. I did this 4 or 5 times before it finally stopped doing it.
I've never had this happen before on any other vehicles. I always let them drain for a good long time without the filter on, and with the fill cap removed, to make sure there's good flow though the engine. Maybe this is what has been causing the problem with people filling the truck with 5 quarts? I used 6 and the stick reads perfect, but I'll bet that at LEAST a quart came out after I thought it was all done.
Anybody else notice this?
Andy
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Blckdak
GenIII
12/21/2001
12:55:53
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Maybe your truck had to burp! I've never done it with both the filter and cap removed so I've never had that problem. Maybe with those both open it letting air in on either side and trapping oil (if this is possible). Im just speculating. Then the oil kinda forces itself through the air bubbles and it burps out. Just speculation.
Erin
2000 CC 4x4 Sport
Magnaflow Exhaust, Z-Tube, Runnin AMSOIL
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Bruce P.
Dodge Dakota
12/21/2001
20:06:40
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(A Rittner) YOU WIN!!
That is the exact answer my dealer gave me once I "pressured" him about the apparent overfill when 6 quarts were used. (He called the 4.7L a "slow drainer")
The advanced oiling system in the 4.7L V8 hemi has "pockets" that tend to hold on to the oil. Ample time must be allowed to drain the hollow camshafts and other orfices within the engine.
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Rob454
Dodge Dakota
12/23/2001
03:36:09
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On my dakota i add 6 quarts. i use ac filters cause they have a bypass valve. i took off the lame lower plastic splash shield and have full access to the bottom of the motor. Ill have to try the bigger PF2 filters. Also the filter being bigger all that will do is take longer to plug up if you dont change the oil frequently. I like bigger filters, but I didnt know the cross over filter # to go from the smaller AC delco to the bigger ac delco filter.
Ill ahve to try the PF2
Rob
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Clevite 77
Dodge Dakota
12/24/2001
12:04:47
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Bruce P. You mentioned the 4.7 V8 is a hemi motor, is this true, or anyone, is the 4.7L a hemi. I never even thought about it.
Thanks
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Bruce P.
Dodge Dakota
12/25/2001
14:14:09
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Actually, it is a "semi-hemi" The shape of the combustion-chambers has a small "flat" on it.
Several engineering compromises were made during the design of the 4.7L V8 to make it more manufacturable and emmissions-friendly while staying within reasonable cost.
DC is allready putting a V6 in the JEEP LIBERTY and the new RAM that is the 4.7L with 2 cylinders lopped off. (part of the design of the 4.7L built at the MACK engine plant.)
Rest assured that several folks that are very well versed in chrysler hemi's have "blessed" the 4.7L as being considerd a hemi.
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YJ
Dodge Dakota
12/26/2001
15:07:16
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Well, just found out my 4L I-6 Wrangler and 4.7L V-8 Quad Cab take the exact same filter and the same amount of oil. (6 quarts) I guess the high output motor on my YJ is pretty nice for 6 cylinders.
Caught me off-guard. :-)
Happy New Year to all you Dak owners! And you Jeep owners too! (In case you're reading this). :-)
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Bri
Dodge Dakota
12/26/2001
16:12:50
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So what is the final outcome. Is it 5 quarts or 6. I have been using 5 quarts for 11 months. I dont think there are any problems.
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A Rittner
Dodge Dakota
12/26/2001
18:40:50
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6, if you make sure the oil is drained all the way.
Andy
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Bill in NY
Dodge Dakota
12/26/2001
18:50:15
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6 quarts !
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Bruce P
Dodge Dakota
12/27/2001
15:40:30
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The straight 6 in your Jeep is the ONLY engine from the AMC (American Motors Corp.) that Chrysler kept when they bought it several years ago.
(Recall that Jeep was part of AMC.)
That engine is perhaps one of the longest-lived in the industry. The straight-6 design has several inherent bonuses that a V6 cannot match. This is the reason that GM has just released a brand-new engine that is a straight 6 design. (A TRUCK engine!)
There are 6 "throws" on the crank of a straight 6 giving it MUCH more torque than a equivalant-displacement V6 engine.
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YJ
Dodge Dakota
12/27/2001
17:11:05
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Interesting stuff, Bruce P...thanks. My Wrangler even with its 33 muds, 4" suspension lift, and monthly wheeling, has over 150K on it and is still purring like a kitten with no engine problems. Of course, I baby it constantly and let it breathe easier with an intake, borla header, free-flow cat, and borla cat-back.
Please, for those of you 4.7L V8 owners, I drive a 2000 model, and it takes all 6 quarts. I just drain it, swap the oil filter, and put in 6 quarts. Runs perfectly, pressure is correct, and level checks out perfect as well. Don't run 5.
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Mig-29
Dodge Dakota
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5/21/2002
21:25:48
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When I put 6 qts in my 2002 QC 4.7 the level reads in the middle of the safe marks. I thought you should always run the oil level at the top of the safe marks. What is the correct way ?
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xplikt
Dodge Dakota
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5/22/2002
01:21:50
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6 is 6, just do what it says, hehe. There is a reason it's there, right?
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