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4/01/2004
00:51:42

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First, some useful info:

* One Top Fuel dragster 500 cubic inch Hemi engine makes more horsepower than the first 4 rows at the Indy. 500.

* Under full throttle, a Top Fuel dragster engine consumes 1= gallons of nitromethane per second; a fully loaded 747 consumes jet fuel at the same rate with 25% less energy being produced.

* A stock Dodge 426 Hemi V8 engine cannot produce enough power to drive the dragster's supercharger.

* With 3000 CFM of air being rammed in by the supercharger on overdrive, the fuel mixture is compressed into a near-solid form before ignition.

Cylinders run on the verge of hydraulic lock at full throttle.

* At the stoichiometric 1.7:1 air/fuel mixture for nitromethane the flame front temperature measures 7050 degrees F.

* Nitromethane burns yellow. The spectacular white flame seen above the stacks at night is raw burning hydrogen, dissociated from atmospheric water vapor by the searing exhaust gases.

* Dual magnetos supply 44 amps to each spark plug. This is the output of an arc welder in each cylinder.

* Spark plug electrodes are totally consumed during a pass. After 1/2 way, the engine is dieseling from compression plus the glow of exhaust valves at 1400 degrees F. The engine can only be shut down by cutting the fuel flow.

* If spark momentarily fails early in the run, unburned nitro builds up in the affected cylinders and then explodes with sufficient force to blow cylinder heads off the block in pieces or split the block in half.

* In order to exceed 300 mph in 4.5 seconds dragsters must accelerate at an average of over 4G's. In order to reach 200 mph well before half-track, the launch acceleration approaches 8G's.

* Dragsters reach over 300 miles per hour before you have completed reading this sentence.

* Top Fuel Engines turn approximately 540 revolutions from light to light!

* Including the burnout the engine must only survive 900 revolutions under load.

* The red-line is actually quite high at 9500 rpm.

* The Bottom Line; Assuming all the equipment is paid off, the crew worked for free, and for once NOTHING BLOWS UP, each run costs an estimated $1,000.00 per second. The current Top Fuel dragster elapsed time record is 4.441

seconds for the quarter mile (10/05/03, Tony Schumacher). The top speed record is 333.00 mph (533 km/h) as measured over the last 66' of the run, (09/28/03 Doug Kalitta).

Putting all of this into perspective:

You are riding the average $250,000 Honda MotoGP bike. Over a mile up the road, a Top Fuel dragster is staged and ready to launch down a quarter mile strip as you pass. You have the advantage of a flying start. You run the RC211V

hard up through the gears and blast across the starting line and past the dragster at an honest 200 mph (293 ft/sec). The 'tree' goes green for both of you at that moment. The dragster launches and starts after you.

You keep your wrist cranked hard, but you hear an incredibly brutal whine that sears your eardrums and within 3 seconds the dragster catches and passes you. He beats you to the finish line, a quarter mile away from where

you just passed him.

Think about it, from a standing start, the dragster had spotted you 200 mph and not only caught, but nearly blasted you off the road when he passed you within a mere 1320 foot long race course.

That, folks, is acceleration.




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4/01/2004
20:54:53

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69_yenko,thanks,its a 64'nova.anyway i wasn't the one who started all this i was just responding.i'm through with hater,he's an idiot.



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4/01/2004
23:26:55

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I thought I was the king of long post. I've been beat out on this thread by about 5 different people.

Lets see....What exactly is the point here?

OH, I remember! Chevy all they way! But only if your GAY!



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4/02/2004
00:48:03

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Still not completely squared away guys.....Will be driving BOTH the V6 and V8 tomorrow and KNOW the V8 will whip it's ass but fer some "joe blow" who's just wanting a nice comfortable truck and wud like to "dump" his Silverado wud the V6 be ok, or will I regret getting it instead of the V8 in like a month or so ???? Both are awesome and I ain't too excited about the '05 Dakota so just asking...I'm not a Chevy "lover"; been a Nissan owner for 10yrs prior to this Chevy purchase so all answers/opinions more than welcome...Thanx, Marty



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4/02/2004
00:51:28

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Don't get me wrong...I LOVE the feeling from a V8 but $$$$ is an issue and here in Austin, Tx, they're tacking on an extra $1000 for the V8 so just need to be SURE it's worth it or not...Love thu body style (the Silverado I got IS much more "plush" but looking to keep something 3-5 yrs) but just wanna be sure I don't make a mistake...Thanx fer allowing me/welcoming me in here ...Marty



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4/02/2004
01:26:45

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go with the v8, the fuel mileage is about the same, and has a much higher resale value. mr. bowtie' i think hater said he was through with you first. and i agree with him. you are the idiot. he is on a dakota bored talking about dodges. but you are braging chevy. thats stupid. his facts prove you wrong too. where are yuors.



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4/02/2004
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I'm STILL NOT trying to get folks going back to "hater", I'm just trying to decide if I truly wanna let go of my Chevy Silverado and go fer thu Dakota.....I like the MPG on the V6 but did notice it's really close to the V8 so what thu heck ??...... Noticed a nice Patriot Blue one close by at a dealer but also noticed it's almost $2,000 higher than a V6 similarly(SP?) equipped....Kinda messes with me ya know....



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4/02/2004
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Lemme know what you folks think ok...I'm hitting thu rack but will prob be buying V6, V8 Dakota or I5 Colorado tomorrow so hope u can help me decide...........Email me or whatever....Just help me decide...V6 Dakota 4dr, V8 Dakota 4dr, I5 Chevy Colorado, and even thinking about V6 Nissan Frontier again...Lemme know what y'all think ok....God Bless, Marty



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4/02/2004
11:58:04

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If you are going with a 4 door, you definately want to get the v8. If you drive in the city a lot the v8 will get BETTER mileage because it wont have to work as hard to get up to speed. They will get the same mileage on the highway. My v8 gets better mileage than my friends 95 with a 4 cyl. If you plan on putting dual exhaust on it someday, you will be sorry you dont have the v8 because v6's sound stupid with loud exhaust. Check the prices of 97-99 dakotas with v8's and v6's. The v8s hold their value much better, and are easier to sell, because everyone wants a v8 these days. Hope this helps. Hope you get the v8.



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4/02/2004
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Then that's what I'm gonna do I guess..Not ONE person has said anything to lean me towards the V6 and yessir, resale value is something I wud like to have..And also like the idea that both get the same MPG basically...Thanx for all the advice..



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4/02/2004
20:02:24

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hey chuck,i don't give a f*ck,if you believe all the sh*t hater said you deserve each other



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4/02/2004
20:30:46

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Well, none of us deserve YOU. If I wanted to read about Chebbys, I'd go to a Chebby board.



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4/02/2004
23:39:57

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Well what do you expect from a jack a$$.



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4/03/2004
02:44:28

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Bowtie must have just gotten beat by a dodge. He seems pretty iritable. Maybe its rag time or something. Who knows maybe his pussy is chapped. Who's a pretty princess? Damn bowtie are you that insecure that you need to bitch about everything? Maybe we do deserve eachother, but so do yoiu and your chevy. you are both pieces of sh!t.



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4/03/2004
15:31:45

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I don't get why GM didn't fit the I6 into Colorado and Canyon. Heck they could have at least fitted a Vortec 4800 and keep the I5 as a base engine. I gess you just got some high IQ people working for GM with no common sence.

But when you look at the new styling at Dodge you have to wonder "should I be seen driving around in that (meaning Durango).



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4/03/2004
23:45:06

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Just saw a fine ass blond driving a fire red Hemi Durango today. I tried to get her to run me. She just waved. What a waist of engine! I could drive her and that HEMI at the same time! YEAH!



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4/04/2004
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Hey, Hater. Beleive me when I say I'd rather jump off a building than agree with Bowtie, But The 440 combo you mentioned won't get anywhere near the 9's, I don't care if it is in a neon. And did you state it had a performer intake set up for 2 carbs? It is true that the top fuel and funny cars run hemis, but the ford and gm pro stock cars do not run mopar engines. But while I am at it "HEY JOHN FORCE YOUR FORD HOT ROD HAS A MOPAR ENGINE IN IT" And if I might, I think the point you were trying to make about the hemi darts is best made by the fact that 68 hemi darts and barracudas rule NHRA super stock/A and super stock/AA classes.



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4/04/2004
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endzone,
I think someone also stated that the Hemi darts were for the most part unavailable to the public and only available to well to do drag racers. That was a true statement, but the person that made that statement failed to realize that anyone could purchase a 383 big block Dart back in 68 and 69. All you had to do then is swap in a 440. If you could afford a custom set of headers then you could easily drop in the 426. There were a lot of 383 darts made.



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4/04/2004
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endzone,THANK YOU!.i'm not tryin' to be an as* to you people,but it is kinda dumb when i don't agree with ONE guy i get flamed by every body.SH*T!.f*ck you chuck



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4/04/2004
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Up yours jack a$$.



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