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jcham
Dodge Dakota
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3/02/2004
21:34:21
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I just read a thread that said the inner tie rods could not be replaced without replacing the entire steering rack. This guy had a 2000, I have a 97. I wanted to know if this was true, because I had new ball joints put in about 3000 miles ago and my mechanic said I needed to get new tie rods since I got the ball joints, and I've never had new ones(101,000 miles and not shot). I found the tie rods on rock auto's site, but I need to know if the inners can be replace separate from the rack any help is appreciated.
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John
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jcham
Dodge Dakota
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3/02/2004
21:42:46
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I did some checking on the site and there are people that have replaced the inner tie rods, but my question is how in the hell does dodge get away with saying that the entire rack MUST be replaced. To me, that just seems fraudulent, and it can be proven to be false. How would they answer that?
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DSW
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3/02/2004
23:02:54
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I don't know what the 4x4 steering looks like, but I replaced the tie rod ends an my 00 2wd Dak with units from NAPA a couple years ago.
Dodge says they only come as an assembly with the rack? The rack has a threaded rod and the tie rod has a threaded hole. Guess they are too lazy to screw the rack and tie rod together, just like they are too lazy to replace only the defective ball joint.
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WipLash
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3/02/2004
23:51:13
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I've never done it to a Dakota, but I've replaced the inner tie rods on 2 different FWD Dodge cars. I would assume that Dodge's design for both is basically the same. They are a MAJOR pain in the ass to replace. I rather replace a front axle in a FWD Dodge than replace an inner tie rod. I would hope that the rack is easier to get to on the Dakota than the FWD cars. My service manual on my 1989 Turbo Shadow said you had to remove the rack in order to replace the tie rods. NOT!! This was a factory service manual that I paid almost $100.00 for. I replaced both inner tie rods without removing the rack.
I've said it 1000 times, NEVER TAKE YOUR VEHICLE TO THE DODGE DEALER!!! THEY WILL SCREW YOU BIG TIME!!!
The dealerships are half the reason DC can't make a profit. They rip their own company off with bogus BS like "you half to replace the entire rack". Then they do it under warranty and DC pays for it. Then DC raises the cost of the new vehicles coming out to offset the money they lost at the dealership.
Terrorist should focus on car dealerships instead of high rise buildings. They would be doing the whole world a favor!
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another mark
Dodge Dakota
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3/03/2004
00:02:34
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4x4s have recirculating ball not the rack according to my FSM.
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azf100
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3/03/2004
00:18:52
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I have a 99 4x4 with a recirculating ball where I just replaced the left inner tie rod end. Yes, it was the end itself from MOOG. Don't know about the newer Daks with rack and pinion.
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another mark
Dodge Dakota
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3/03/2004
00:34:39
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We need a rack and pinion person to step forward I wanna know too. This shop I get some work done said they had changed the inner tie rod end on a rack before but not on a Dakota.
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WipLash
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3/03/2004
00:36:07
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They changed to racks on the newer 4x4 Daks. I think it was 2000.
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another mark
Dodge Dakota
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3/03/2004
01:33:09
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Ok,my FSM is for a 99 so 2000 must have been the magic year.
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GasHog
Dodge Dakota
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3/03/2004
11:00:20
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Hey guys,
It was my truck where the entire rack was replaced and that is the only way to get them. I checked with every parts store in town and no one carried the inner tie rods only the outer. Now this is for a 2000 4x4, the entire steering system was changed in 2000 so you guys with a 99 or older can probably get inner tie rods.
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DSW
Dodge Dakota
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3/09/2004
01:30:40
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Well the tie rods I replaced 60K ago were the outers and one of the passanger inner tie rods is bad now. So it looks like I will be replacing the inners (and outers for the heck of it) in a couple of weeks and getting another alignment. rockauto.com has the 2000 Dak 2wd inner tie rods for $41 and the outer tie rods for $32
Anyone replaced the inner tie rods? Looks like the boot needs to come off the rack and unbolt the outer tie rod end. How does the inner tie rod attach to the rack and pinion unit?
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WipLash
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3/09/2004
13:29:07
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Gashog,
The dealer will also tell you that the upper ball joint comes as an assembly with the upper control arm. We all know that's false. If I've said it once I've said it a thousand times, don't go to the dealer for anything because they will SCREW you!
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another mark
Dodge Dakota
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3/09/2004
13:51:38
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Well DSW my FSM just shows the rack as one unit, doesn't break
anything down. Guess they intended the mechanics to replace
the whole thing and not even monkey with it. I've got the inner
tie rod ends sitting in a box here, they are Moog parts. It is
basically a shaft about 18 inches long, wth 4 inches of threading
at one end to be screwed into the rack and the other end has a
roundish ball attached to it with about 1 inch of threading on it.
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DSW
Dodge Dakota
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3/09/2004
17:55:20
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Anothermark, I have done the outer tie rods, so the plain threaded end of the inner tie rod goes to the outer tie rod and the threaded end of the inner tie rod with the ball goes into the rack "somehow"??? This is what I want to find out is how the inner tie rods attach to the rack unit. Someone said there is a special tool needed when replacing the inner tie rods, I guess it holds the rack or something like that.
Where did you get the inner tie rods, rockauto.com?
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another mark
Dodge Dakota
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3/10/2004
02:59:11
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Yes at rockauto, I'm just going to take it my local shop and see if
they can't install them. No clue here.
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rivermanaic
Dodge Dakota
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3/11/2004
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on the rack fronts there is no "inner tie rod end " it'r the tie rod end period ......there is one on each end of the rack , they go threaded to the rack and the other end goes to the spindle .......
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DSW
Dodge Dakota
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3/11/2004
00:45:22
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That's what I thought until I found a listing for the inner tie rods for the 2000 Dak. Sure hppy I don't have to replace he entire rack since just one of the inner tie rods is shot.
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rivermaniac
Dodge Dakota
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3/11/2004
09:47:16
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2000 is the "hinge" year when they changed from recirculating ball to rack I beleive , at least on the 4x so probably that's why it's listed ....................
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DSW
Dodge Dakota
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3/11/2004
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It's a 2000 2wd Dak that rockauto.com has the listing for the inner tie rods, Moog p/n EV406 and the outers tie rods are moog p/n ES3571. I checked and they have these listed for the 2001 and 2002 trucks also, the 99 and earlier trucks have different p/n's for the tie rods.
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daddio
Dodge Dakota
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3/11/2004
13:51:04
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guys, i have an'00 QC 2WD and there are definitely NO inner tie rods. the tie rods screw directly into the rack. man date of my truck is Jan. '00.
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Bishop
Dodge Dakota
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3/22/2004
15:53:35
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WipLash, you should check it out again. Maybe call chrysler 5 times like i did. With a 4x4 2000 model Dakota i couldnt find anyone with JUST the inner tie rod ends, only entire rack. Now Chrysler is helping me out with the problem but If I've said it once I've said it a thousand times, no one sells the inner tie rod ends for a 00 4x4 Dodge Dakota by itself. If you know anyone who does let me know.
thank you
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