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Darryl
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2/19/2004
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Go to toyota.com and check it out. I wish the '05 Dak could compare....Watch out R/T owners.
Darryl
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GoodGod
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2/19/2004
16:20:40
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That thing looks like the bastard child left after an SVT lightning fukced a Canyawn. Seriously. They've ripped off design elements from just about every competitor.
Are they for real with that hideous piece of crap?
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00R/T CC
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2/19/2004
18:53:16
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Man that thing is ugly. Canyon wheel wells, SS wheels, front end by ford, rip off! Even the paint color looks a bit too familiar... Bet they'll sell like hot cakes.
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Darryl
Dodge Dakota
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2/19/2004
19:40:26
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I know I'll get flamed for this:
A truck with 240 hp & 275 lbft of torque out of a high tech motor, and five speed manual tranny. In a truck that's the same size as our Daks.
Oh and I almost forgot....Toyota quality!!!
I'll be test driving this as soon as it hits the lot.
Darryl
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FUGLY
Dodge Dakota
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2/20/2004
02:31:18
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It may be more reliable (only time will tell) but it sure it FUGLY.
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WipLash
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2/20/2004
08:29:30
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Dodn't forget it weighs about 700lbs less than a CC R/T.
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Demon Dakota
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2/20/2004
11:50:20
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Whoopie...it's still slower than a clubcab 4.7L 5 speed...not to mention a standard cab 4.7L 5 speed.
True Dual exhaust and removed third cat
HO Cams & HO Intake
FASTMAN 70mm TB
Autolite 3923 Plugs
TPS @ .76 VDC
IAT Adjuster Mod
Custom tranny VB Mod
Demon long tube headers
Ported/polished heads w/ 1.92" Intake/1.60" Exhaust Valves
One dead stock LSD unit (POS...)
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Darryl
Dodge Dakota
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2/20/2004
12:32:27
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Seeing as it hasn't even been released yet, I guess we'll have to wait to see who's faster. Weight vs HP is a huge factor.
Darryl
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WipLash
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2/20/2004
13:26:12
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Demon,
Do the math dude, 3300lb truck w/240hp= 13.75lb/hp
That's in extended cab form. The reg cab weighs only 3000lb for 12.5lb/hp
A RC Dak 4.7L 5spd weighs 3700lb. With 230hp
that's 16lb/hp. Even with the HO engine you still have 14lb/hp. That's with a Reg. Cab Dakota. You have an X-cab. With the HO engine you still have over 15lb/hp to propel you forward.
To top it off, you can get the 7th jet performance upgrade for the Toyota that adds another 25hp. 3000lb/265hp= 11.3lb/hp. A Ford Lighting pushes 11.5lb/hp.
An X-cab Dakota would have to make more than 320HP to equal the 2005-X with the optional 7th jet installed.
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esp
Dodge Dakota
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2/20/2004
14:18:16
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They are also making a supercharged version of the truck that is said to take it from 0-60 over a second faster and the normal X-runner will do it in about seven so there isn't a stock dakota that could compare with the supercharger X-runner. This info was given at the Chicago Auto Show.
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DeepDak
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2/21/2004
02:41:04
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Don't forget that the new X-runner is going to be bigger, which means it is going to be heavier. Don't expect this thing to tip the scales at 3300lbs, more like 3800lbs. Look what happened to the Frontier when they made it bigger, about 500 more pounds!
For those of you who agrue stock times, last time I checked no one cares if your stock or not when you race at the track! If you lose to a 9, 10, 11, 12, 13... second car or truck then you got beat, NO EXCUSES! The people who argue stock times are usually the ones getting spanked at the track and crying about it. Besides, who keeps their car or truck stock? Not many!
WipLash,
I can appreciate the numbers, but they do not account for the different power bands. As you know, engines with the same hp output can have completely different powerbands, which means that one engine can beat the other even though their max hp outputs are the same. The toy looks ok on paper but with the extra engine and low torque numbers, it will probably require a supercharger to get it into the 14s. The current supercharged S-runner which weighs less than the future X and puts out more power only hits mid 14s(on average).
I predict that the new X will not be much faster than the current S because of the extra weight. And the new X will still be slower than the current Lightning and naturally aspirated modified R/Ts. But hey, I welcome the new X, the more sport trucks at the track the better! The sport truck scene at the track compared cars is very one sided. Just my .02
Eli
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Sammy Sosa
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2/21/2004
04:13:46
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Darryl,
Sounds like you're in love with this thing. Why don't you put your name in for one since you seem to thing its da bomb?
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Darryl
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2/21/2004
15:20:16
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I have an open mind about all things, unlike most on this board.
I love my '99 Dak, I HATE the '05 Dak. Time is coming for a new ride and can you believe it..............I might not by a Dodge this time around.
But, until I do pull the triger on whatever I buy, I will still love my Dak.
Darryl
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Sammy Sosa
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2/21/2004
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Open minded, huh? If you think this thing isn't fugly and the 05 Dakota is, then you have no taste. Your truck is 5 years old and it needs to be replaced?
Maybe you could pull the triger(sic and by(sic) that monstrosity but I bet soon after you do you'll be pulling another trigger.
You've never seen an 05 Dakota except for pictures. I love these clowns who (1) claim to be open minded then rail against something and say they hate it and, (2) come to a Dodge Dakota website and flame the home team.
Darryl, just go away and buy your Toy truck and have a nice life, after you get one.
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Darryl
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2/21/2004
16:03:35
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I have seen the '05 Dak in person and at the Chicago auto show. So I DO know what I'm talking about.
If we were face to face I would have the balls to say this and more to you, but you can't even use your "real" name while typing to me on a computer screen.
And by the way if you ever saw my Dak' you would apologize about the taste remark. Give me your email and I will send you some pics, as I don't know how to post them here.
Hey "sammy sosa"...............Got Balls?
Darryl
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Sammy Sosa
Dodge Dakota
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2/21/2004
16:42:45
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Send you my e-mail. OK President@whitehouse.gov
Again, you tasteless closed minded moron, go pull the triger and by your Toy. It's easy to be tough guy when your hiding behind a PC but you prolly don't want to go there.
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Darryl
Dodge Dakota
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2/21/2004
17:29:36
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ALL of us are waiting to see if you have the nads to back up your mouth. Or will mommy a daddy see what you've been up to?
Remember everyone who reads this is waiting to see your response.
But I guess once you punk out you can always start using a different name "Pinky Tuscadero" perhaps?
It fits.... LOL! LOL! LOL!
Darryl
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WipLash
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2/21/2004
20:22:17
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Deepdak,
I have not seen the specs as far as weight is concerned. It looks like a dressed up Tacoma and the Xcab V6 Tacoma only weighs 3300lbs. You can get the SC installed at the dealership on the V6 Tacoma. Add the 7th jet and you have a 265hp/3300lb truck. If the X weighs more than that, then that's dissapointing. Mid 14's isn't too shabby. That's all the 1999 Lightning would do. It's faster than a R/T.
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luvmeR/T
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2/21/2004
23:15:29
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well,i love my truck 02 cc R/T,but i havent really been a huge fan of dodge,except for the muscle cars.i am a huge fan of toyota.my parents have driven them forever and right now have an 02 and 03 tundra.they have never ever had any kind of problem whatsoever.definately a superior brand.
this new x-runner looks pretty good,nothing an after market grille couldnt fix.and i dont imagine them weighing anymore than tacomas,because thats exactly what that thing is!everyone rips everyone off,but take a look at an 04 x-cab tacoma and you can tell that the x-runner is a tacoma.so with the power they are boasting,especially since they are going to come factory supercharged also,me and every other dakota owner,even you super human 4.7 guys,better watch out.i had my dad take a look at it and hes very interested,so maybe i will get to see one first hand.
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WipLash
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2/21/2004
23:35:35
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I hate to see the day that a foreign brand out does the Big 3 in trucks. It looks like that day is very near. It serves the big 3 right. All 3 manufactures have been building crap for years. At least 10 years ago you could still buy a truck cheaper than a car and you didn't expect it to be more reliable than a car. Now a truck cost almost twice what a car does and they don't go a year without something catastrophically failing. IF Dodge, Chevy, and Ford don't get their heads out of their asses quick, Toyota will be the #1 selling truck in America.
OHHHH!! I’m going to hear it now. Before you hammer my ass, just look at what happened to the cars. Ford Taurus was the #1 selling car for nearly 7 years. Toyota now has the thrown as the #1 selling car with the Camry. It wasn't hard for Toyota to do. The Taurus was a major P.O.S.!!! It didn't take much for them to make a car that would rise to the top in everything except performance. Now they are going to do the same thing with the trucks.
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Darryl
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2/22/2004
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Well said WipLash.
I am almost 40 and have had alot of cars and trucks in my driving life (most Chrysler products). And after my last experience with an american sedan (300 M), my wife now drives a Honda Accord.
And what pisses me off most is, I know we can build BETTER stuff than anybody if we want to.
So far my Dakota has been the best Chrysler product I have had. But it is not without its faults. And I am now in the frame of mind that I don't have to settle for ANY faults on any of my future vehicles!
Darryl
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