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andys1960@com Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE
1/16/2004 05:14:07
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Message: does anyone know where to get an oil analysis done at a reasonable price?
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AmsoilSponsor DakotaEnthusiast
1/16/2004 09:00:51
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First, Amsoil uses and recommends Oil Analyzers, Inc. You can find their information in the Amsoil catalog. Reminder ... you are not looking for raw #'s ... but also an interpretation of those #'s.
Not using Amsoil? You should use a lab that is familiar with the additive chemstry of the oil you are using. For all you Mobil1 users, AV Lube. For Redline Motor Oil ... Oil Analyzers, Inc., Blackstone Labs, or Dyson Analysis would provide you with an excellent analysis.
I think you will get more accurate data on oxidation, nitration, TBN, etc., etc., if you do this.
Blackstone Labs & Dyson Analysis are two very good oil analysis companies and you can also check the Yellow Pages for someone nearby.
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What is Oil Analysis?
Oil analysis involves sampling and analyzing oil for various properties and materials to monitor wear and contamination in an engine, transmission or hydraulic system. Sampling and analyzing on a regular basis establishes a baseline of normal wear and can help indicate when abnormal wear or contamination is occurring.
Oil analysis works like this. Oil that has been inside any moving mechanical apparatus for a period of time reflects the exact condition of that assembly. Oil is in contact with engine or mechanical components as wear metallic trace particles enter the oil. These particles are so small they remain in suspension. Many products of the combustion process also will become trapped in the circulating oil. The oil becomes a working history of the machine.
Particles caused by normal wear and operation will mix with the oil. Any externally caused contamination also enters the oil. By identifying and measuring these impurities, you get an indication of the rate of wear and of any excessive contamination. An oil analysis also will suggest methods to reduce accelerated wear and contamination.
The typical oil analysis tests for the presence of a number of different materials to determine sources of wear, find dirt and other contamination, and even check for the use of appropriate lubricants.
Oil analysis can detect: Fuel dilution of lubrication oil, Dirt contamination in the oil, Antifreeze in the oil, Excessive bearing wear, Misapplication of lubricants.
Some wear is normal, but abnormal levels of a particular material can give an early warning of impending problems and possibly prevent a major breakdown.
Early detection can: Reduce repair bills, Reduce catastrophic failures, Increase machinery life, Reduce non-scheduled downtime.
Early detection with oil analysis can allow for corrective action such as repairing an air intake leak before major damage occurs. Probably one of the major advantages of an oil analysis program is being able to anticipate problems and schedule repair work to avoid downtime during a critical time of use.
Another purpose of oil analysis is to provide a means of predicting possible impending failure without dismantling the equipment. A person can "look inside" an engine, transmission or hydraulic systems without taking it apart.
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Once you order the "sampling kit" follow the directions very close so as to NOT contaminate the sample. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT.
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I could go on-and-on about the merits and benefits of oil analysis. Entire phamplets have been written on the subject. However, the proper lab will do the dirty work and provide you with a "bottom line" interpretation.
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For the Record, a UOA (Used Oil Analysis) is a trend analysis "per vehicle" and reports will be different "per vehicle". You can not compare across brands or between vehicles.
Oil analysis can detect:
Fuel dilution of lubrication oil
Dirt contamination in the oil
Antifreeze in the oil
Excessive bearing wear
Misapplication of lubricants
Again, Some wear is normal, but abnormal levels of a particular material can give an early warning of impending problems and possibly prevent a major breakdown.
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In conclusion, UOA's are not beneficial in determining "which brand of oil is best" ... only helpful for your own personal vehicle. Early detection with oil analysis can allow for corrective action.
Yes, UOA's are very important for extended drains (up to between 25k - 35k with Amsoil) simply to determine if the oil is suitable for continued use (that the base oils and additives are up to specifications).
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Note: Amsoil Recommends that with the use of Amsoil Synthetic Oil a vehicle owner can extend their drain interval up to 2 - 3 times longer than recommended by the manufacturer. Beyond that UAO's are recommended to determine if the oil is suitable for continued use.
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For a FREE Amsoil Catalog --- click the following link:
Steven Roark , Amsoil Dealer , Proud Sponsor of www.DodgeDakotas.com
AMSOIL Synthetic Motor Oils, Lubricants, Filtration, and Truck Care Products
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AmsoilSponsor DakotaEnthusiast
1/16/2004 09:02:41
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Cost and Convenience of Oil Analysis:
The cost of an oil analysis will vary according to the laboratory and extent of the analysis. Typical charges are $10 to $30 per analysis. The expense easily can be justified if it alerts the owner of a major problem that can be corrected and will help prevent downtime when the vehicle or machine is needed.
Several companies have developed oil analysis kits that make oil analysis convenient. These kits include the sample bottles, suction pump and tubing, and possibly a pre-addressed, postage-paid mailing container.
The reasonable cost and convenience of oil analysis for use makes it another management tool that should be considered by anyone wanting to do preventive maintenance.
As I stated earlier ... You should use a lab that is familiar with the additive chemstry of the oil you are using. For instance ... testing Amsoil, I'd use Oil Analyzers, Inc., and for all you Mobil1 users, AV Lube. I think you will get more accurate data on oxidation, nitration, TBN, etc., etc., if you do this. Also, Blackstone Labs & Dyson Analysis are two very good oil analysis companies and you can also check the Yellow Pages for someone nearby.
As Always ... Happy to help.
Steven Roark , Amsoil Dealer , Proud Sponsor of www.DodgeDakotas.com
AMSOIL Synthetic Motor Oils, Lubricants, Filtration, and Truck Care Products
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1/16/2004 13:33:54
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Message: Blackstone Labs is pretty good too. They will test any brand including Amsoil and will mail you a free test kit. It costs $20.00.
Blackstone Labs
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1/16/2004 14:06:58
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I think Steven mentioned Blackstone's name.
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