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Dakaty
GenIII
1/09/2004
18:36:12
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 Subject: Tips for changing Fuel Pump on QC??
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I decided to break down and change my fuel pump this weekend. I'm tired of the long cranking times! I bought a Federal Mogul pump at O'Reilly Auto parts for $220. It has a lifetime warranty. The Stealers price was 20% off list price of $317 or $254. The OEM did not come with a lifetime warranty (and they did not have one in stock).
I have not seen the one I am getting as they had to ship it to the my local parts store from the warehouse. I will pick it up in an hour or so. I hope it is a direct replacement will all components so that it will "bolt right in". It's supposed to be.
Since the tank is completely under the cab on the QC model, removing the bed is not an option.
My plan is to:
remove as much fuel from the tank as possible.
disconnect battery.
raise and jack stand the truck.
disconnect the fill/vent hoses.
support the tank with hydrolic floor jack(s).
loosen the holding straps.
slightly lower the tank.
unhook fuel and electric lines at fuel pump.
lower tank to ground.
remove pump unit.
inspect tank interior with a light for residue
install new unit.
reverse the precedure to re-installation.
If anyone has some advice on making the job go smooth, I would appreciate it.
Thanks
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chrytech
Dodge Dakota
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1/09/2004
20:03:28
| RE: Tips for changing Fuel Pump on QC??
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sounds about right,why dont you drive it till your almost empty.No gas to worry about and the tank is gonna be a hell of alot lighter.Did you get a compltet fuel pump module or just the pump.Usually a long crank time is a bad check ball(drain back valve) which is part of the complete unit.Chyrsler will only sell it that way and you cant just buy a pump unless you go aftermarket.10 years as a chrysler mechanic ive usually always found that to be the problem.also you can remove the fuel pump relay and crank the engine to relieve some fuel line presure for when you have to disconnect the line at the pump.
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Dakaty
GenIII
1/09/2004
21:02:51
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I just picked up the pump assembly and was surpized at the size of it. I hope I got the right one. It is a large white plastic device with two pipe like sleeves. The two sleeves are spring loaded so the assembly will adapt to different tank depths.
I'd guess that the top sleeve that will be flush with the top of the tank is about 4" - 5" in diameter. This means teh hole in the top of the tank must be that big.
Does this sound like the right part? Does anyone have or know where I can view a picture of one?
Bill
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chrytech
Dodge Dakota
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1/09/2004
21:37:20
| RE: Tips for changing Fuel Pump on QC??
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yep,thats it
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Dakaty
GenIII
1/09/2004
22:31:18
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Thanks!!
I wasn't sure if this was the right part.
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Dakaty
GenIII
1/10/2004
21:22:32
| RE: Tips for changing Fuel Pump on QC??
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The good news is that I changed my fuel pump and it cured my "long cranking" problem. If you have the dreaded "long crank problem", the fuel pump is likely the problem. I'm so HAPPY that I don't have to crank and crank and crank to get started anymore. Now it's like it used to be... one quick turn of the key and she starts.
The bad news is that it was a pain in the arse to do.
The first major problem was the frame brace that connects both main runners of the frame. This brace prevented me from lowering the tank and had to be removed. It was held in place by 4 MAJOR RIVETS!! I had to drill out those bad booger bears. That took a lot of time and energy. I started with a small drill bit and used at least 5 gradient sizes up to 1/2" before the rivets could be pounded out. This may be a feature exclusive to the QC. But be warned: If you are planning to change the fuel pump yourself, check to see if this cross piece is in place and prepare to remove it. You will need a good assortment of good drill bits. Not some cheapo bits. This was the hardest part of the whole job.
After sprinkling myself with sharp metal shavings for about an hour, the cross piece was finally drilled out and removed and the tank lowered to the driveway. Now I was getting somewhere. WRONG!! The Federal Mogal (Carter) fuel pump that I bought at O'Reilly auto parts did not have the correct electrical connection. Fortunatly, I was able to find a Dodge Stealership parts department that had an OEM unit in stock. The price quoated was $337 (compared to $220 for the one I bought that didn't work). I asked the Dodge parts guy if they gave a discount off of list price and he said NO. I told him that I always received a discount at the other Dealer and he said "OK" and gave me 10% off. (Always ask for a discount!!!).
While looking up the part, the parts guy told me that Dodge has issued 5 revisions to the fuel pump replacement part since mine was built. Does this suggest that the original design SUCKED????
The OEM part fit perfectly. Installed it, bolted on the cross piece using grade 8 bolts and the job was finished.
Summary for the QC installation:
Use the OEM replacement part and prepare for removal of the cross brace if you have it.
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