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Lesley
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4/03/2002
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I finally saw the movie. No question, that Charger was hot.
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Jon H.
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4/03/2002
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Anyone see Blade 2 yet? The same car is in it as in the first movie. There is this scene where he almost slides into it on a motorcycle...stops just before he hits it...and then helooks it over and gives it a couple "air kisses"...funny as hell.
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Lesley
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4/03/2002
17:09:54
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I can't wait to see Blade 2, I'll make special note to look at the car this time. :)
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alex
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4/03/2002
17:19:52
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I'm assuming you've bought a personal copy of Bullitt, right?
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Erik
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9/25/2002
22:46:10
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Well personally I think you guys suck. There is no way in hell that the supra with nos would keep up with that Dodge Charger with a blower in the F&F. I do have to admit that the Rx7 that Dom drove was beautiful. You guys really need to study your cars, I mean man it was pathetic reading all of those messages you wrote.
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Lesley
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9/25/2002
23:09:50
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LOL! I can't believe people could get so worked up over such a 3rd rate movie! As for the difference in $$ spent modding a Supra vs a muscle car - that is definitely a moot point IMO. Muscle cars are legendary classic pieces of history, I'd love to have the dollars to pour into one. If you just want to get from A to B real fast - heck, there are freaking snowmobiles up here at the drag tracks that do 9 sec. in the quarter mile.
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Snowman
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9/26/2002
08:42:36
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I think the funniest thing in bullit is how the ford is able to keep up with that charger. that wouldn't happen. But alas that's hollywood
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James
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9/26/2002
17:18:11
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I'm curious, why do you think a 390 powered mustang would have trouble keeping up with a charger R/T 440?
The mustang is much lighter, giving it a much better power/weight ratio.
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Fubar512
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9/26/2002
17:51:16
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The Mustang has 325 HP, if you believe Ford. It also weighs about 3500 lbs, as the Ford "FE" series big block is a boat anchor, weighing over 750 lbs by itself (the intake manifold alone weighs 110 lbs!).
The Charger has a CONSERVATIVE 375 HP, much more torque, and its engine won't weld itself together at 5500 RPM, as the non-side oiler in the Mustnag would have. The Charger weighs just shy of 3900 lbs.
The power to weight advantage goes to the Charger.
The Charger also was purposely 'crippled' with smaller then stock rims and tires, as in stock form, it was running away and hiding from the Mustang.
Check out the following link. Better yet, do a search on the net, and check out all the info.
Bullit Chase, the true story
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alex
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9/26/2002
17:54:20
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The Charger's power-to-weight ratio is about 375 hp pulling 3500 lbs. The Mustang was using 325 hp to pull 3250 lbs. That's about dead even. On paper. Actually the Charger is slightly ahead on paper.
BUT
All the articles that have been written by the people involved with coordinating the original Bullitt chase all say that the Charger rang rings around the Mustang. They were trying to handicap the Charger by shaving the tires and loading it up with weight and all this other stuff, and it just kept stomping the Mustang. Oh well. It's just a movie....
Here read 'em & weep.
http://people.freenet.de/pony/motortr.htm
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James
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9/26/2002
18:20:33
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Well there ya go. I stand corrected. I had thought the 390 had better hp than it actually does.
That's good to know. My 69 Skylark with a 370hp/510tq 455 in it certainly has no trouble getting around.
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alex
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9/26/2002
18:29:17
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I always wanted to drive one of those Buick 455's. That much torque and that much hp must be ridiculous. Ouch. And with all that torque peaking at 2800 rpm, too. Damn.
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Fubar512
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9/26/2002
18:29:36
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A Skylark GS was quite the sleeper in its day!
I've owned, at one time or another:
A '68 Chevelle SS396/350 HP, 4 sp (back in 1976)
A '69 Mustang GT ragtop with a 351/290, auto (back in 1976)
A '69 Charger R/T 440/375 HP, 4 sp (1977-1978)
A '69 AMC AMX two seater, 390/315 HP, 4 sp (1978)
Two '70 AMC AMX two seaters. 390/325 HP, both 4 sp (one in 1978-1980 and one that I've owned for the last four years)
So, I've had quite a bit of experience owning (and wrenching on) classic muscle cars.
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James
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9/26/2002
18:41:30
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I had a 69 GS California with a 350 back in high school and I always wanted a 69 big block Buick. This one already had the 455 in it when I picked it up. The motor is out of a 70 Riviera GS, and makes a silly amount of power stock. I'm hoping to tear the whole car down over the next year or so and do a nice clean street buildup. With just a few mods and a little porting, I should see in the area of 450 hp.
Here's my high school ride back in 80.
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Fubar512
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9/26/2002
18:53:19
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Nice ride! The GSs where also quite nimble, as Buick did more work in the ride & handling department, then any other GM division, with the possible exception of Oldsmobile.
The only prob with the Buick engines, and one that a good machine shop can easily rectify, is oiling. You have to open up some of the oil passeges, and place restrictors in others, to ensure that they stay together above 5,000 RPM.
But, with the boat-load of torque they have down low, who needs to spin them that high!
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dude
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10/24/2002
12:59:11
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i no a nova ss that could smoke the tires and still could jump 3 big pop bottles and it had a small block in it with no nos
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Big59er
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10/24/2002
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Hey james, do you ever run down at the GS nationals in bowling green? My dad takes his Grand National down there every year. Just curious.
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midnightdak
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10/24/2002
16:28:09
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i have right now a chevelle ss 67 and a 67 chevy p/k with a 468 bbc with about 700 hp without nos,i dont like nos prolly cause i'll kill myself with nos i mean just the truck with a motor like that scares the sh!t out of me then when i put that motor in my car well that would just be plain bad aSS.but i have to go with eric on this one there is no way in he!! that the supra could stand a chance up against the charger,the charger was bad aSS,it was weird cause it didn't have carbs on it,i think it was stupied that the charger was still spinning its tires while in the air,cause in order to get the front tires off the ground you have to hook up.
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Bettawrekoniz
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12/04/2002
23:19:20
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this is for the dude that was talking about the sequal to the movie, in the scene in Mexico Vin Disel was not even driving a dodge, he was in a 1970 ss chevelle
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chris
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7/23/2003
02:12:28
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hey, what kind of shifter did the charger have? it looked like vin diesel pushed the shifter forward, it changed gears, then the shifter went back to where it was before he pushed it forward,
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.alex.
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7/23/2003
09:28:19
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That was even more BullSh*t, courtesy of that crappy movie. It was a rachet shifter, which is used to shift an automatic transmission. You pull it BACKWARDS to shift gears, at which point some shifters have springs that return the handle to the original position. That close-up scene that showed Vin Diesel shifting FORWARD was pretty much stupid because they were showing him shift into Park. Hello? Whatever.
What a stupid movie.
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midnightdak
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7/23/2003
16:22:26
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Alex,It was a rachet shifter but it was full rachet because full rachet shifters stay in the same position while shifting and the rachet shifter moves places when shifting to a higher gear...also full rachet shifters have a reverse lockout so you cant shove it to far forward and accidentaly hit it,so how could you hit park while racing?exactly you cant hit reverse or park.LOL your funney though,backwards for shifting to a lower gear and forwards is not for hiting park its for shifter to a higher gear,hitting park...lol...thats funny stuff.Oh yea and the charger also had a manual shift automatic tranny
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.alex.
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7/23/2003
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It's been a long time since I watched that piece of crap movie, but I do believe that he pulled up on the two-finger trigger to release the lock-out. But since the rest of the movie was such crap (why did the floorpan of that one guys car come unbolted??) I just laughed off the scene as more Hollywood bullsh*t.
The ONLY (one & only) realistic part of that movie was when they were gathered in that huge crowd and they heard sirens in the distance and everyone hauled ass out of the parking lot..... THAT was realistic. The rest was bullsh*t. Period.
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chris
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7/24/2003
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hey , what kind of shifter does the charger have? it looked like after vin diesel pushed it forward to change gears the shifter came back to the place where it was before he pushed it forward
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midnightdak
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7/24/2003
01:21:59
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I have to agree with you there,theres no way that the speed or nitrous put to that car that the floorpan could come unriveted...lol...that was stupied.Also i dont see how that supra could possibly beat the bigblock charger i dont see that as reallistic.
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jeremy
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7/24/2003
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midnightdak......alexs' was right about saying vin deisel put the car in park. If he was racing then your right, he couldn't make that mistake, it wouldn't let him. But my friend that was holly wood. the car wasn't moving while they were filming the shifts.
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2Fast2Furious
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7/24/2003
14:23:38
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Hee hee... I find it funny that you guys are still arguing over a 2 year old movie. :)
It's just "entertainment" folks... not someone's life story.
BTW... someone must've really been diggin' in the archives to unearth this "jewel". (heh)
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TexasTodd
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7/24/2003
16:33:06
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now that we're in the archives......
.alex.,
This may be one of the only times I may not agree....
I used to drive a car, yadda, yadda, yadda, that had a B & M Quick Click Shifter.
In racing mode, you slammed it forward to hit the next gear. This was a three speed autopmatic.
Now, I don't remember, but if it was a manual, then.....................
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.alex.
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7/25/2003
08:52:19
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Well, when you have a fully manual valve-body in your automatic, you can have the shifter set up forwards or backwards, and shift however you want.
All I'm saying is, go back & watch the movie. I'm pretty sure the bald-headed dork (remember how he lives his life 1/4 mile at a time?) pretty much put the car in park.
But that's okay. It fits right in with how he popped a wheelie AND smoked the tires simultaneously. All while driving 1-handed and looking out the driver's window at the dude next to him.....
All a bunch of Hollywood sh*t.
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gg
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7/25/2003
13:01:38
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in the real world the 440 torq would leave the ricer in the dust,
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