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12/04/2003
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GM Stealthily Buys Back Noisy Trucks, SUVs
November 26, 2003
General Motors has been quietly buying back dozens of full-sized pickup trucks and SUVs after consumer complaints about knocking noises from the engine, consumer lawyers said.
GM confirmed that it has received "a small number of complaints" about excessive engine noise after cold starts of the Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra pickups as well as the Chevrolet Tahoe and Suburban and the GMC Yukon and Yukon XL SUVs. Most of the affected models are from the 1999 to 2002 model years and are equipped with 4.8-liter, 5.3-liter and 6.0- liter V-8 engines.
The company has also bought back some 2002 Cadillac Escalade SUVs, according to lemon law attorneys who have handled the cases.
"I cannot believe that GMC ... would allow one of its Yukons to be on the road sounding like it has got a rod going out," said 2002 Yukon owner George of Wichita, Kansas. "I really enjoy the Yukon but absolutely hate the knocking of the engine. Almost everyone that hears it says something is definitely wrong and mentions a rod going out."
The company claims that the "only known effect" of the knocking is the sound. A spokeswoman said there is no damage to the engine. Some vehicle owners say the noise is caused by a condition known as "piston slap."
"I know that over time from speaking with the dealerships service manager I will experience power loss, poorer fuel economy and higher emissions," said 2002 Silverado owner Stephen of Peabody, Mass., in a complaint to ConsumerAffairs.Com.
GM says it is handling consumer complaints on a "case-by-case" basis.
"They're got a lot of problems with their engines, for whatever reason," said attorney Brian Parker of Bingham Farms, Mich. Parker, who handles lemon law cases, said "numerous" consumers have won buybacks of their trucks and SUVs.
Another lawyer who handles lemon law cases in nine states said he knew of "more than 100" buybacks of Silverado and Sierra pickups alone.
The company claims it has fixed the problem with the faulty engines, which was first reported by the Detroit Free Press. A spokeswoman said it was caused by carbon buildup in the pistons for the 6.0 liter V8 engine in mid-model year 2002, and on the 4.8 liter and 5.3 liter V8 engines for the 2003 model year.
The engine knocking noise is not likely to spur a recall by the U.S. National Highway Transportation Safety Administration because it does not cause any safety problems.
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I guess if GM used Scamsoil as a factory fill then everything would be OK.
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Amsoil will even cure cancer if you can tolerate the taste.
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12/04/2003
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|  Amsoil Synthetic Oil = Cold Crank Protection
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1) Thank you both for your brave and educational posts. Without your "flames" ..... I could not survive the harsh winter cold ... but my engine will using Amsoil Synthetic Oil with better cold crank protection ;-)
2) My earlier post was provided as a Public Service Anouncement (on a thread about Chevy Engine Knock). Sorry --- Amsoil won't cure manufacturers defective equipment :-(
3) Amsoil won't cure cancer ... but it may make the chemotherapy more tolerable. I am speaking from personal experience as a cancer survivor that spent 6 months in the hospital :-)
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01Motorsport
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Checkmate:Steven.
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touche' Monsieur Roark.
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paulSmith
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My father told me that he read on a GM site that the piston slap issues are due to carbon on the pistons. GM will do an engine clean, to supposedly rid the engine of the piston slap.
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GraphiteDak
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12/07/2003
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If you KNEW you had piston slap, especially after only a few thoussand miles, would any of you ACCEPT a fix that was simply an ENGINE CLEAN?
Those lazy bastards. ALl they would so is run some sort of muck in with the oil, flush it and refill the oil. Then 15K miles later, and out of waranty... it's KNOCK TIME again!
Damn. I'm glad we don't have that problem.
I do however, hear a VERY SLIGHT and seldom noise from my 4.7. It's only noticable because I have no clutch fan and the engine idles so damn quiet up front where you don't hear my exhaust. I don't think the sound is anything abnormal tho. I'm not worried about it.
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Two words .......... Chevy Sux!
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