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Rick
Dodge Dakota
6/17/2001
11:15:54
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Hey guys I was lookin at jc whitney .com and
they have those blue looking kinda fake HID
headlights,mines a 01 dak I know it uses
#9007 but I see there is 2 diff kinds 100/80
and 65/55 any1 know if you can use either
one? thanks
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kota on 20s
Dodge Dakota
6/17/2001
11:44:29
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yes either will work... but just a warning. i live in so cal, and have got 2 tickets for blue lights. you might get one also, if illeagle in your state.
Eric
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Rick
Dodge Dakota
6/17/2001
11:59:04
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aight thanks kota obviously the 100/80 are
gonna be brighter which ones did you use to
get those tickets:)
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Bernd
Gen III
6/17/2001
14:16:45
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Read this before you decide to use those "Blue" light...most of them don't work as well as the GE 9007/HO Bulbs.
http://lighting.mbz.org/tech/info/bulbs/
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
Supercharged @ 10#
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kota on 20s
Dodge Dakota
6/18/2001
02:06:56
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the PIAA'S also work better but at $70 a pair, ill go with the blue ones that almost look the same and are $30 cheaper
Eric
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eddie_orlando
Dodge Dakota
6/21/2001
16:48:20
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which of the legal bluish bulbs emits the closest to the HID look? I currently have the Philips Blue Vision but I was wondering if the GE blue versions were more blue or what? PIAA and the like are out of the question since reading Bernd's posting about them being hurtful and they're overpriced for all those rice burners!!
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dropt98dakota
Dodge Dakota
6/21/2001
19:37:47
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I used to have the blue lights installed in my 98 dak, however in poor weather conditions I found that they did not illuminate the road very well. I currently have the xenon crystal bulbs which shine a bright white. They work much better. If any of you want the blue bulb I will send em to you free of charge shipping only which won't be much if anything, they have been sitting in a closet for quite some time just sitting there. I don't plan on installing them again.
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eddie_orlando
Dodge Dakota
6/21/2001
22:11:42
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I will take them! I need the 9007's if that's what they are. Tell me more.
Ed
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Bernd
Gen III
6/22/2001
00:51:17
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I have a set of the "Hiper Industries" HID (Look) 9007's sitting on my desk as a paperweight.
I ran them for about a week and promptly installed the GE 9007/HO's. I couldn't see a damn thing with those "HID wanna be" headlights...nothing beats HID (but they're also $1200+).
Get the GE 9007/HO's (WalMart carries them as well as the 9004/HO's - Wife's Jeep).
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
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eddie_orlando
Dodge Dakota
6/22/2001
14:56:29
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Bernd,
Don't laugh too hard but the reason I'm asking around for the best 9007's is I just got a 01' Dodge Caravan Sport for my company car with my new job!! It has the 3.3 which I've personally never heard of, but so far so good. Just got it today and was thinking of some low dollar mods I could do since it's a fleet car and all, not mine I mean. Today I got the GE blue halogen bulbs for the van, I saw the HO's but I'm still young and the blue thing appeals to me! I'll go to the HO's if these stink, but according to your link in your post companies like GE, Philips, etc., basically the companies with good reputations do research where they come up with a good bulb that looks bluish but doesn't annoy or become unsafe, DOT approved also. I dunno, we'll see, I have the 9004 bulb in my 95' Dak and I hear it is one of the most inefficient in the industry as far as projection and the housings of the vehicles that have it, like the 95' Dak:). In my 95' Dak I have the Philips BlueVision, seem okay, not too blue though which I guess is a good thing!!
Ed
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Blckdak
Dodge Dakota
6/22/2001
15:06:41
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Dropt98-
those xenon crystal bulbs, are they called that and who make them?
Thanks
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dropt98dakota
Dodge Dakota
6/22/2001
20:13:19
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Blckdak, when I go home I wil take a look at the packageing then post it up as soon as I can
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Boomer
Dodge Dakota
6/22/2001
23:42:33
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Just a warning about going to the 110/80 watt range of pull. If it actually pulls 100 watts then you might burnup your wires, no not right away, but eventually. But, if they are the pull 60 put out 100 (like I really believe that one) then you SHOULD be ok. IMHO.
Boomer
97 Money Pit
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smartDakowner
Dodge Dakota
6/23/2001
00:26:19
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something to remember about basic electricity.
If it is 12 volts and 100 watts it is the same power draw as 100 volts at 12 watts so I don't think you will burnout your headlight wires. Take a look at the lamp cord in your front room and you will see what I mean about wire size as that wire is made to handle 120 volts and 5 amps all day, which is the same as 600 watts of power. Ohm's law, remember??? AV=W any 2 symbols can be swapped to make a true statement. However you may want to upgrade your relay to ones that can handle the higher amperage.
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James
Dodge Dakota
8/05/2001
21:05:21
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Is it possible to fry your wires when you modify the 9005 Bulbs to fit in a 9006? I've heard of ppl doing it and i've done it with the Philips blue Vision buls and it's a lot brighter than the stock 9006 and the eurolite 9006 Xenon blue bulbs that i had... but i was wondering if drawing 10 more watts would be safe on the factory wires...
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Rudy
Dodge Dakota
8/06/2001
07:49:36
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I installed PIAA's bulbs when I purchased my Dakota, I think it was the second day I owned it, maybe second week. Love them, just upgraded the fog light bulbs to 885, they now act as driving lights not fogs work great.
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Blckdak
Gen III
8/06/2001
21:48:24
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I have a pair of Ultra Whites that I personally don't want anymore. They are 2 weeks old. I have both the 9007 and the 893 (fog lights). I paid $35 a set for them and Im willing to part with them for $20 for each set if anyone's interested, don't worry about shipping. You can email me if your interested or just post a message here.
Erin
2000 CC 4x4 Sport
Magnaflow Exhaust, Z-Tube, Runnin AMSOIL
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JP
Dodge Dakota
8/06/2001
21:59:44
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I'll throw in my $.02 on wiring. Amps not watts define wire capacity. Do be concerned about the amps that are run through the wire and the connector. Once wire/connector starts to get warm the current carrying capacity reduces. That cycle can eventually lead to melt down. Also corrosion becomes a factor that reduces current carrying capacity; thus, what is OK now may become a future problem.
Bottom line....check frequently if you use bulbs above the rated wattage for the fixture.
JP
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Jeffster
Dodge Dakota
8/06/2001
22:06:11
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I am using Eurolite Xenon crystal bulbs and am very happy. They are light blue in appearance and cast a very bright white light that illuminates the road signs and roads very well.
They are made by Toucan and my friend sells them at his shop for $40.00 CAN.
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heavymetal
Dodge Dakota
8/06/2001
23:02:18
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The folks at rallylights.com (excellent customer service I might add, very knowledgeable about lighting) said that higher wattage bulbs should not be a problem provided the wiring is in good shape (not an issue on my 2000 Dak). JP is right in that poor wiring can cause an increase in resistance thus increasing power loss, energy loss & temperature. Rallylights recommended using dielectric grease where the bulb prongs meet the wiring harness. This grease will conduct current but also protect from localized corrosion and thereby protect from localized heating/wiring failure & power loss.
I don't mean to be picky, but I seem to remember:
Ohm's Law=Volts=Current*Resistance (V=R*I).
Joule Heating=Power=(Current^2)*Resistance. P=(I^2)*R.
The current is the dominant term, therefore amperes have a much bigger effect than resistance with respect to wattage/power loss (exactly why large power transmission lines operate at very high volts but low current). Rallylights also recommended measuring the voltage at the back of the bulb with respect to the Alt charging volts. If the voltage drop is large, then the wiring may not be in good shape for a plug n play high wattage bulbs. I currently have Hella 100w/80w 9007 Standard Bulbs ($12.85) and they are excellent, daylight on demand. No relays were installed because the wiring on my 2000 Dak is A-OK. I also did some digging and found Hella makes a product called a "light brightener". It is basically a relay/wiring harness that is specific to a particular car or truck. The harness uses the headlight switch to actuate a relay that routes current directly from the Alternator. Hella claims a 20% increase in lumens from the decrease in voltage drop through the oem wiring/switch with the same bulb. If your voltage as measured at the bulb plug is 20-25% less than the Alt Volts, then I believe them!
John M.
2000 4x4 CC
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JP
Dodge Dakota
8/06/2001
23:26:05
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Heavymetal,
I am impressed! If you are not an engineer then you have a good technical background otherwise. Thanks for putting some better definition around the general concept.
JP
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jimmeyjack
Dodge Dakota
8/06/2001
23:42:11
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I would hate to be the oncoming car looking at your 80/100 lights! there is a good reason why there ilegal,THEY BLIND YOU!! This has to be dumber than taking off the cat idea.
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heavymetal
Dodge Dakota
8/06/2001
23:58:02
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jimmy,
Nothing dumb about it.
The Hella 80w low beams have cutouts that prevent excessive glare. To verify, I sighted my truck on a wall and the 80w Hellas are much brighter but much brighter BELOW the cutout line on the wall. I also had my girlfriend drive by truck towards me while I was driving her '96 Saturn. No discernable difference in glare relative to oem in MHO. Same thing from behind. No biggie.
The high beams, well the shouldn't be on around traffic anyway.
The only DUMB idea is to not upgrade your lights and slam your Dak into a friggin' deer!
The oem lights are the worst!
JM
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Daddy-D
Gen III
8/07/2001
00:17:19
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I had 80/100 Hellas on my Jeep Comanche -
aimed PROPERLY, there was no glare or
other trouble (I had my wife drive it behind me
so I could check them with the mirror set to
"day".
Now that I have a Dak, I wish I could get
E-codes for it for the improved light.
'98 DakSport C/C 3.9 2WD A/T
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heavymetal
Dodge Dakota
8/07/2001
00:22:32
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JP,
Thanks for the kind words. Many moons ago (14? yeesh!), I was an electronic technician in the Marine Corps; I used to repair radars & computers in an anti-aircraft missile battery (HAWK). Pretty cool job to fix gear that can shoot planes down & blow $hit up. It has been awhile since I thought about Ohm's Law, Impedance & the like, so I guess the Corps programmed me right!
Since the Corps, I traded in my multimeter & O-Scope for a Metallurgical Engineering degree from Penn State University. I still can't get away from this Ohm fellow since I now work for a steel company that sells electrical steel to (amongst other customer applications) power distribution transformer manufacturers such as ABB. I help design the alloys and the plant processing that produces the steel's specialized magnetic properties, i.e. minimize the "core loss" that occurs in a step up/down transformer.
All in all, a pretty cool job; better than getting shot at!
Cheers.
JM
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Bradley Potts
Dodge Dakota
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3/10/2003
13:30:22
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I have a '94 S-10 and I would like to get some blue head lights, but all I can find in blue is Cool Blue and Super Blue. I have tried Cool Blue, and didn't like it. I need something more blue. Any ideas? The size of my headlight is a 6054. Thanks.
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Gibson Boy
Dodge Dakota
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3/12/2003
17:05:34
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www.Toucanindustries.com it's a ricer website but the eurolight is not too bad for the price. bulbs look very blue but find them more super white with blue tint only looking from an angle.
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chesire17201
Dodge Dakota
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3/12/2003
17:10:17
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www.midnightmoose.com
they're lights rock............
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CJ
Dodge Dakota
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3/12/2003
21:15:32
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I have to agree with everyone on the Toucan Industries Xenon Crystal Bulbs...I put the 80/100's in my dak and they don't put off that ricer blue halo around the light...they give a "hyper white" look to the lights rather than the stock yellowish glow...I paid $23 at the local auto shop for them...
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Andrew
Dodge Dakota
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3/13/2003
06:01:49
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I just put in Sylvania SilverStar 9007's and they are awsome!! Plus totaly legal. Don't waste your time an money on crap blue bulbs, they are junk. The Silverstars are a bright white/light blue hue to them, and close to the HID look for $40 a pair. Also go to midnightmoose.com and get a pair of Eaglite fog lights while your at it. Now those lights are bright!!! My 894's only cost $15 for the pair. And they are so much better than the stocks, that you could drive at night just on the fog lights. Hope whatever you get works out great the first time
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Bradley Potts
Dodge Dakota
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3/13/2003
07:50:06
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The problem with my size headlights is that I can't find my size. Does anyone know if they have conversion kits to go from a size 6054 to a 9000? I would really like to get those Silverstars, but like I said, no one has them in my size.
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