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Ben
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10/23/2003
14:40:37
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Guys,
I've read some past posts on tires and came up with a few ideas thanks to you'all. However, it looks like most evryone suggests AT tires not all season. I have always had AT tires on my 4x4, but now I am driving a 2000 Dak 2x4 and I don't want to overdo it with AT if it isn't necessary. I do do some off-road driving when hunting & fishing, etc. but I am limited becasue the stock Wranglers are as useless as tits on a turtle in any kind of wet or snowy conditions. SHould I stick ATs on my 2x4 or do you'all recommend any all seasons that perform above avg. in the snow and wet?
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BJK
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10/23/2003
16:59:01
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If you don't go off road much and don't care about looks, then you'd be silly to get an A/T tire. Get a good all season highway tire for a quiet comfy ride and a longer treadlife.
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Boondox
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10/23/2003
19:26:54
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Depends on your definition of snow. Here in northern Vermont I run snow tires in winter and the stock Wranglers the rest of the year. But when the Wranglers wear out I'll switch to more of a highway tire for summer.
Snow tires have a narrow profile compared to regular tires. In snow, wide is bad. We see kids with their lifted and wide tired toys in ditches all the time. Wide rubber floats on top of the snow, and when the road turns the truck doesn't. In summer I run 265/70-16s. In the winter I run 245/75-15s. Big difference in handling!
So back to your original point: how much snow and what type (cold and dry or warm and sloppy?) do you get where you live?
Pete
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Ben
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10/24/2003
11:45:37
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I live in Michigan, but not the UP so the snow belts so snow is so, so. I used to live in the U.P. and the snow where I get now is marginal for the most part, but in general it is a wet sloppy snow. I would like some all seasons, but need a model that runs well in snow and wet, semi-muddy roads behind the farm when deer hunting, etc. The Wrangler ST's are for sh*t, so I am hesitant against another set of Goodyear's but if someone has a model they think are just what I'm looking for, I would consider it. I understand the concept of narrower tires, just don't want to get new wheels, I have already spent too much money on the 24K mile Dak I have. 2000 SLT CCab
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daddio
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10/24/2003
14:47:20
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don't know about snow but, i got some BFG land terrains from WalMart. they are good on and off the road. no highway noise. look almost exactly like BFG A/T's. i think they made especially for Wal Mart. BFG website doesn't even list them. good price for a good tire. set of 4- 235/75/15's out the door for $310.00.
the wrangler ST's are crap. had them.
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Kowalski
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10/24/2003
16:28:23
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My experience is that the BFG's wear better than a lot of other tires too.
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Boondox
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10/25/2003
16:45:43
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BFGs suck in snow, which was the original poster's question. Snow tires have plenty of sipe and are generally made of a softer rubber compound. You can get a decent snow by Cooper or Nankook for about $85 each (add $10-15 for studs) or an exceptional snow by Nokian for about $120 each. All snows will do well in the frigid stuff; at 10 degrees or below there's plenty of traction unless it accumulates. It's the wet, slushy stuff around the freezing mark or late in the season that makes the roads slimy. In those conditions, the top of the line (like Nokians) with directional tread are the best way to go.
Pete from the Frozen North
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Kowalski
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10/26/2003
08:46:37
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Bull. BFGs are great in snow. I have been plowing with them for so many years I wouldn't even consider anything else. Last year when there was an uphill area at work they were unable to plow with a full sized Chevy, I plowed it with my Dak on, you guessed it, BFGs.
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Peppy
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10/26/2003
11:04:54
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BFG's suck. They might be ok for rock crawling, but don't get them if you drive mostly on road or hunting trails. Waste of your money.
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