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Will
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8/28/2003
19:43:21
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I just drove from the flatlands thru the rocky mountains, is there any techniques you guys use to rely less on or not burn your pads on the decent down?
help this flatlander.
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forexfour
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8/28/2003
21:01:55
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I just kick it out of overdrive and that usually holds you back from having to hit the brake. I do this regularly on Cuesta grade and the Grapevine in CA.
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Rob 1
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8/29/2003
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That's about it, use your gears thats what they are there for. I live in WV the Mt.State and drive truck for a living of course on it I have an engine brake or Jake Brake. But gear it down and your pads will last longer and rotors.
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EBL
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8/29/2003
11:09:40
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Are you saving pads at the expense of the transmission or clutch?
Pick your poison... You don't want your brakes to fail, but new front rotors cost me $35 dollars each. New pads cost around $20.
How much does it cost to have a clutch replaced?
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kordell
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8/29/2003
12:28:09
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No offense to those of you in West Virginia, or California, but the Rocky Mountains don't apply to general rules. The only way to get down is using both the tranny and brakes. Simply downshifting isn't enough. Now if you were in a porsche that would be a blast.
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forexfour
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8/29/2003
13:34:25
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Having never been in the Rockies I would agree that there may be different rules that apply but they cant be that different. But I would think you can only make a grade so steep or know one could get over it.
You may always need to use the brake some but the original question was what technique to use to use the brake less.
I find it hard to believe that the freeways built over the rockies would be that different unless the weather conditions are more what you are talking about.
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BeenThere
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8/29/2003
13:37:17
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Road decending into Jackson Hole, WY is one steep mutha!
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kordell
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8/29/2003
15:28:36
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amen been there. I used to live in idaho just on the other side of that pass and it is a killer. during the winter I used to take that route to the ski hill at least twice a week. I've been out of control going down that a couple of times, but luckily nothing major. I've see a few trucks go right off the edge and into the trees 50 feet down. Good thing there were trees to stop them.
As far as the rockies, i've only been through there twice and the roads were totally dry both times thankfully. The best way is to down shift, but with out riding the brakes also, you'll blow your motor in no time. During winter months when the roads are slippery, both that rocky mountain pass and the jackson pass are not passable in many kinds of cars. Going up usually isn't the problem. With chains, snowtires, and/or four wheel drive you can make it up a slick road, but that doesn't help with the desent. I know with the jackson pass it closes at least a dozen times during the winter. There is a road that goes around the mountains, but it's 4 times as long.
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Rob 1
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8/29/2003
18:23:41
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I don't think anyone that has driven longer than six months would even suggest you never use your brakes on a steep grade.
My company hired a greenhorn driver once and dispatcher against my advice sent him on run with steep grade. Halfway down he shouted at me on CB that brakes were getting hot I looked in rear view and noticed he had third axle raised(we were driving tri-axle dumps)so I told him to lower it to give him another axle with brakes. He had the truck in to low of gear got his brakes hot and blew the whole bottom out of motor. Thank God with third axle down the truck stopped.
Another trick you can use on slick roads if you have front disc brakes and rear drums is to slip the transmission into neutral when trying to come to a complete stop to prevent rear wheels from pushing you (on Rear Wheel Drive of course). Most disc brakes will lock up way before the drums causing front wheels to slide and making it impossible to stop or steer. Like I said this only works on REAR WHEEL DRIVE WITH DISC BRAKES ON FRONT AND DRUMS ON REAR AXLE. It will work if you are trying to ease down a slick hill as well, Notice I said EASE.
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