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Scotty
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8/18/2003
15:01:06

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Hey all, just wanted to tell everyone about my trip this past weekend. I dont use the overhead consoule for my milage figuring, I do it the old way.I filled up in Randall Minnesota and drove 160 miles to Cannon Falls, filled up again and it took 6.26 gallons so that is 25.55 MPG I just could not believe it. The best I have had prior to that was 18-19Mpg. I also have those good /not so good 3.55 gears! LOL!! I went to Millville and watched Carmichael & Stewart kick but.



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8/18/2003
15:14:47

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That's unbelievably good. I put the HO cams in my 4.7 QC 4X4 and instead of getting 15.5 on the highway at 65mph like I used to - I now get 13.8. LUV MY DODGE............VW TDI sounds real good about now.



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8/18/2003
15:36:46

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Oh yeah My truck is 02 Quadcab 4.7 4x4



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8/18/2003
16:53:02

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I got 13 mpg on the highway last night, it was rediculous :)

lol how sad is that



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8/18/2003
17:12:36

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Well, I got a 5.2 MPFI setup, And get about 17 to the gallon with the air off.



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8/18/2003
17:25:35

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Well I got a 99 cc 5.2 3.92 auto and I get h.sh!t M.P.G. try 13.5 to 14.7 average and I love my truck but the gas prices just keep going up here in MN maybe I'll go and get my 03 A-4 more show and go



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8/18/2003
19:47:37

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My 02 Quad Cab w/4.7 v8 gets about 21-22 when easy cruising on the highway, about 70mph. Get off the freeway, and it goes to about 15 average.
3.55 gears. Lower gearing will kill you in fuel economy. I've got a FIPK2 intake system, which helped a bit too.



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8/18/2003
20:41:29

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Pickups being what they are (real bad
aerodynamics because of the tall cab/open bed),
has anyone measured the difference between
driving with a stock open box, vs carrying a
slightly rounded box cap that's flush with the
roof level of the cab?



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8/18/2003
22:43:34

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Scotty

How nice is that Millville track? I'm from MN and have been meaning to get back there some year to catch the nationals there. I saw the Glen Helen national in '98 and I mean to tell you the downhills were almost not beleivable in person. To watch Carmichael and Larocco and some of the others catch air at the top then hold the throttle on most the way down doesn't seem possible. I would probably sh@t my pants just coasting and braking. LOL



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8/18/2003
23:04:29

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Andy L forget about the A4 go for the S4. Sorry about being off topic



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8/19/2003
01:01:09

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Yeah, I try not to drive my truck anymore. Between the gas milage and gas prices around here, I just let it sit. Kinda pointless to even have it. I too have been thinking of selling it for something with better MPG. VW Jetta gonna be out there soon, sad to say.



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8/19/2003
07:34:52

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Some_guy,
this answers your question, somewhat. As you can see from the pic to the left I have a cap on my QC. For about a month this spring I had it off, saw no difference in mileage at all.

2002 QC 4x4 Sport Plus, 4.7L, auto, Patriot Blue, Tire & Handling group,
Heavy Duty Service group, Leer cap w/out windows, Mopar Step bars and roof rack, Rhino liner in bed and on step bars, Pace Edwards Power Tailgate lock
3.55 rear, 4-wheel anti-lock brakes, all possible fluids are AMSOIL

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8/19/2003
08:24:10

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8/19/2003
10:24:40

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Jesus F*cking Christ, can I just read one freakin' thread WITHOUT an Amsoil commercial in it!!

If someone knows of a Dakota site that this jerk isn't a member of, please let me know.



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8/19/2003
10:38:03

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Filled up last night after driving 272 miles on 14.44 gallons of fuel. That equals about 18.8MPG for everyday city driving. That's not too bad for a 4x4 and a heavy foot. I've hit 26MPG many times on the highway by only using cruise control at a constant 65MPH.

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Aaron

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8/19/2003
10:53:01

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Redd, The Amsoil Guy is a paying member and a paying advertiser. You are not even a paying member so don't complain. Plus he offered good comments prior to talking about the benefits of synthetics. Become a paying member for god's sake.



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8/19/2003
13:22:27

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I got about a 1 MPG when I put my hard tonneau on (Peragon Folding Cover).



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8/19/2003
13:52:34

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9 mpg here :)

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8/19/2003
14:23:48

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I have a RC auto and get 20 in the city with the 4.10s and 22 on the freeway.


Get this -- really pissed me off. I use a freind 97 dodge diesel ( not the high output) and got 19mpg pulling a 5000 5th wheel. This was at 70 mph!! I will be geting a diesel.



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8/19/2003
19:25:45

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BB - that's great if you're doing a lot of heavy
towing, or heavy hauling in the hills. Keep in
mind though, that the surcharge for the new
diesel is about 5 thousand dollars over the 5.7
motor. On top of that, diesel is even more
expensive to buy, than gasoline in some areas
(even though its much cheaper to make).

So, if you're doing light driving, how long
would it take to make up 5 grand DIFFERENCE in
fuel bills? Even though I like the idea of
modern diesels everywhere, I don't want to have
to wait 10 years to amortize the price
difference between the two engines.



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8/19/2003
20:17:01

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i get about 17-18 MPG Hwy with my R/T...but if i go over 70 MPH im screwed...



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8/19/2003
20:30:19

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I dont feel so bad when my 95 was new I got 24mpg then CA put in MTBE S*it and now I get 19mpg this is a 5.2 5speed 392/2 gear



BikK75
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8/19/2003
20:35:31

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I get 1 mpg Highway 0 City. Ahahahaha. Well I tell you this 00 Dodge Upper ball joints shot, water when I turn on my air conditioning. 99 Honda Accord 0 problems. You decide.



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8/19/2003
20:44:25

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Some Guy,

What about the trade in value of the cummins as opposed to the 5.7 years down the road. If it could hold most of the value of the price difference I think it would be worth it. I have been considering the new Ram but can't decide between the Cummins and the hemi because I can't find any gas mileage estimates. Does anyone know where I can find the figures? Also, will the HO cummins be better on mileage than the standard diesel? Any other advantages to the HO?





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8/19/2003
21:03:33

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My uncle has a 2002 Ram with The Cummins, and it will get 22-24mpg on the highway, pretty good for a fullsize 4x4. From my understanding the HO comes only with the 6-speed manual (Correct me if I'm wrong), and puts out more power. I would doubt a more powerful engine would get better gas mileage, but you never know, my guess would be about the same. I would get the HO just for the fact that its putting out more power (you can never have enough).



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8/19/2003
21:32:24

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Ok I have an 02 QC 2 wheel drive 4.7 stock except k&n drop in . I drive 32 miles each way everyday back and forth to work.. I average 18 mpg on county roads at 70 mph ( Don't tell the sheriff) I hook up our 28 foot travel trailer and still get 12 at 60, 10 at 70. All things considered that's not bad for a truck. My wifes 02 exploder 6 cyl doesn't even get 18 mpg. After all we are driving trucks not cars.



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8/19/2003
21:40:36

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Thanks Zach for the reply. I would probably go with the HO unless I have to get the manual trans. I was just surfing trying to find a decent Ram forum that is user friendly like this one (anyone know of one?) and I cam across a Ram v-10 forum and some claim that the new hemi is barely better then the v-10 gas mileage wise, and not nearly as powerful. Most were getting almost 1/2 of your 22-24mpg figure empty and anywhere from 6 to 10mpg towing with the v-10. If the hemi is not much better than that I certainly will have to get the Cummins. With how much I drive i figure only maybe 4 years to pay off the diesel price diff. plus I should have a higher trade in value when the time comes.



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8/20/2003
23:24:39

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Unbelievable is right. I have a 97 CC 4x4 5.2 Automatic and maybe a little heavy foot and I'm lucky to get 13mpg local and 15 hwy. My 4cyl Geo Tracker only gets about 31mpg. Love the sound and power of the Dakota but with petro prices may have to go GEO little more often.



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8/21/2003
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Just finished the trip to Purdue to drop off kid at college. Round trip was 1522 miles total..heavy 65 to 75mph driving with some small city stuff thrown in over the last week..... Total fuel usage was 78.2 gallons! You do the math, I am very pleased to say the least. I have the 2001 Quad with 4.7 2wheel drive. The K&N air filter helps along with the bed cover.

I love my truck....comfortable too!

ps....tire update. The Kumhos "H" rated stock size tires are great and quite. MOre road feel and stiffer sidewalls.



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8/23/2003
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Don't even ask ..... I will cry.



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8/23/2003
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You want better mileage. Trade for a Honda Insight. 50 - 70 mpg ... and you want PERFORMANCE with that? Hot Rodding it would be easy. Just add a higher output generator and larger wheel motors.

For the Record:

Volvo built a Experimental Hybrid about 10 years ago that got 45 city and 55 mpg highway. If you look at a Volvo S60 ... that was the body for the car. It was a reheated Gas Turbine connected to a generator with a battery unit. The drive power came from electric wheel motors. The technology was pretty interesting. The car ran on the batteries at low speed ... like around town. When the power level dropped below a preset level the Turbine would kick on to charge the batteries. The car when driven above a certain speed would run on the Turbine / generator and when additional power was needed for high speed passing the batteries were tapped for it. I thought it was an outstanding setup, and now the Japanese are putting it on the highway.



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