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jaggy
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7/09/2003
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after my last ticket I now am going to invest in a laser jammer.
I have done some research and have found the blinder M20 to be one of the only units that actually works.
it sells for $350 though.
anyone have any experience with this jammer or other jammers?
The M20 uses 2 remote sensors but can be upgraded to 3 or even 4 for larger vehicles.
are 2 enough to cover our trucks?
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Jim
Dodge Dakota
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7/09/2003
12:57:09
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Jaggy,
I have the Blinder unit and it works great. I mounted the two sensors in the grill of my 2001qc and it has saved me atleast three times so far from various GA State and local cops. I bought a package that included the new BEL radar/laser detector. Great package.
Install took me around an hour. Let me know if you have any more questions.
Jim
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jaggy
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7/09/2003
15:13:46
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Jim,
you da man!
thanks for the reply that sets my mind at ease.
Fist off I thought it was way to expensinve compared to other units.
but after reading the test results I found that the cheap ones don't even work.
So the M20 will be enough to cover a dakota?
sounds like that is the module you went with.
side bar, have you ever been questioned about the legality of the jammer?
Do you toggle it off as they recomend when you are painted?
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Jim
Dodge Dakota
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7/09/2003
15:27:04
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Jaggy,
Lucky I have never been stopped by a LEO to ask about the legality of it but since it does not really "send out any jamming signals" I am sure it is OK.
I defintely have it toggled (switch is mounted below the air vent on the right side of the steering wheel). I did go to Radio Shack and buy a larger toggle switch with a bright red light to make it easier to switch off.
You should see the stunned face of the LEO when they "painted" me and could not get a signal. I think the more "units" you have the better you would be since they do not send out their signal / light very far. Having said this, I have the two that came with the unit and feel good as long as the LEO's follow the normal routine of "painting" you front grill. I would be screwed if they "paint" me from behind.
Just another tools in the ever changing game of speed.. It has "gone off three times" in the past 10 monthes -twice the radar detector also went off but I would have been in trouble since I was "leading the pack".
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Demon Dakota
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7/09/2003
16:09:35
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A laser is not something that can be "jammed" since it is only light. It can be scattered/captured/redirected...
Radar, on the other hand, can be jammed, but you would be highly illegal if you operated one of them in a passanger vehicle.
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Jim
Dodge Dakota
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7/09/2003
16:31:59
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Demon Dakota
You are correct, that is why this unit scatters / disrupts the signal and causes the Laser Gun to read an error code.
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jaggy
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7/09/2003
16:34:06
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Demon Dakota,
you are correct about the "jamming" term.
it is used loosly with regard to laser, and the FCC has made Active radar jammers illegal.
Radar is much harder to jam by the way becasue of all of the different frequencies and power levels that they operate on.
A detector is good enough for me as far as radar goes, but laser on the other hand... you don't know its out there until you are caught.
Most sellers of the "jammers" list 6 or 7 states that it is illegal but you never know what the actual facts are coming from someone trying to sell you something.
here is a link that gave me some great info.
http://www.laserbusters.com/support/product-tests/6.asp
Jim thanks again, I may go ahead and order the M30 for an extra $100.
you can pick up another sensor for $150 to upgrade your to the M30 package. If you are concerned about the rear, that may set your mind at ease.
All I know is $400 now could save me near twice that much once my record cools off a little bit.
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jaggy
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9/30/2003
18:14:08
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Well I have the jammer installed and it seems to be working but seems to false all the time.
The manufacturer assures me that this is an isolated insodent and the unit is not supposed to false.
They are currently working with me to resolve the issue, all be it very slowly.
Jim, I was wondering if you have this problem ever?
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jaggy
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9/30/2003
18:14:08
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Well I have the jammer installed and it seems to be working but seems to false all the time.
The manufacturer assures me that this is an isolated insodent and the unit is not supposed to false.
They are currently working with me to resolve the issue, all be it very slowly.
Jim, I was wondering if you have this problem ever?
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tank
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9/30/2003
18:49:32
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Hey guys here an idea: LETS OBEY THE SPEED LIMIT AND THERE WOULD NOT BE A NEED FOR THESE DEVICES! or the injurys and fatalities involved.
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Kowalski
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10/01/2003
17:18:34
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Hey tank, here's an idea, what if speed limits were more reasonable ? Most roads now were designed for higher speeds than posted. Also, I've been driving since cars used to come with lousy bias ply tires, but I've never seen the limits raised to reflect the increased handling of our modern vehicles. I see speed traps in zones that are posted so low you have to constantly watch your speedometer to make sure you won't get a ticket, distracting you from watching the road, how safe is that ?
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Jim
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10/01/2003
17:32:09
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Jaggy,
I only occasionally get a false positive. Maybe 4 or 5 time in the year or so I have had it. My guess is that it is isolated. Occasionally a home or business security system that has some sort of "area" monitoring will set mine off -this is only my guess as to what is happening. Sorry to hear of your false positives. Let me know what the solution to your problem turns out to be.
As for "tanks" comments - let's ignore them and and keep this forum helpful advice and USEFUL opinions.
Jim
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Speed Limit?
Dodge Dakota
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10/02/2003
10:43:09
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Kowalski,
I do agree w/ you to a point about the speed limits and the modern cars/roads, but the other side of it is that the limits are set for a reason. How safe is it for someone to be traveling at say 55 mph in a 30 mph zone. Nearly all of the speed limits are set according to how residential an area is, and also how much pedestrian traffic is in the area (ie. school zones/work zones). Just put yourself in the shoes of those who have kids that need to cross streets to get to school or the play grounds. A little common sense here, "How safe is that?"
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URBothRight
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10/02/2003
14:20:55
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In some places speed limits are a safety issue, in other places they are just set unreasonably low in order for the cops to generate revenue.
Where I live there is one road that's 5 lanes wide (2+2 with a ceneter turn lane) and the posted limit is 30MPH. It could easily be a 45. The cops just hide out and wait for people to speed through. In this case it has nothing to do with safety because it's a big load of nothing all around it.
These days most cops are reduced to being revenue generators for the jurisdiction that employs them.
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jaggy
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10/02/2003
15:35:16
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Jim,
thanks for the feedback on the jammer.
At least blinder is proud of their product!
they are sending me a new one to troubleshootwith.
they seem more concerned about the issue than I am. I am very glad I went with them instead of a different company.
They mentioned something about the power being ran to close to a cilenoid could give this problem, when I asked which cilenoid, they could not tell me. (obviosly a rep relaying info from a tech.) I will re-run all of my wireing and see if that makes a difference.
As for tank and the other, I do believe that everyone is entitled to their own opinion on this, I do get pissed when I am driving 55 mph in a 55 mph zone in congested traffic and some idiot goes tearing by me at 75 mph whipping in and out of traffic. Rest assured Blinder or no this guy is getting a ticket,(or worse if I catch him.)
my reasons for having a blinder are just that...My reasons" Feel free to pull me out of my driver side window if I offend you on the road.
I am a very courtiouse driver and very attenative.
I do have a problem with a 4 or 5 lane road that is 55 mph then reduced to 35 mph to ease traffic congestion durring rushhour. I get all of my ticket when there is speed trap set a one of these intersections at 11:00 or 12:00 at night.
there is no reason for the speed to decrease without the increased traffic.
I don't make excuses and I never ask for a break from an officer. I do try and keep in mind the speedlimit, but when enforment of the letter of the law seems more important than enforcement of the spirit of the law...thats when I strap on a Blinder and let them collect their revenue from someone else.
sorry for the long post but sometimes it just needs to be said.
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STS
Dodge Dakota
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10/02/2003
16:52:04
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I'm very lucky today and I think God gave me a free pass though a red light. The town a I was driving thought has about 6 red lights every 60-150 ft. Well, the first 5 was not a problem. But then there was this car in the far left hand infront of me. So I had to watch him hit his brakes for some reason or another. Then he made a hard right hand turn and just as I was going to stop, I was in the middle of the intersection. So I just kept going and so did the other traffic behind me. HA. Next time I gess I should keep one eye on the brake light, and the other on the traffic light.
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Demon Dakota
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10/02/2003
17:41:19
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I still think this is bunk. In order for the laser to be dispursed/scattered, the beam would have to directly hit the box/unit...whatever. If a police officer lights up your liscense plate, how is the box going to save you? With some kind of energy absorbing field? I have a very good idea of how lasers work in the speed detection area, so proving this to me is going to require some serious hard facts with scientific data to back it up...
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HO Cams & HO Intake
FASTMAN 70mm TB
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99YellowR/T
Dodge Dakota
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10/02/2003
19:20:31
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You see, I just took the RADAR Jamming Pod of an old EA-6B Prowler and mounted the bare essentials underneath my hard tonneau cover. The only down side is I have to mount the International sign for radioactive materials on either side of my truck. But it was either that or a RADAR seeking missile, but those might be slight illegal.
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Demon Dakota
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10/02/2003
19:54:13
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99YellowR/T,
That's funny stuff! You do know that if you were really running that setup that you'd kill every vehicle's electrical system around you, including yours...
K&N Drop in AF (CAI during summer months)
True Dual exhaust and removed third cat
HO Cams & HO Intake
FASTMAN 70mm TB
Autolite 3923 Plugs
TPS @ .76 VDC
IAT Adjuster Mod
14.52@94.2 MPH at Silver Dollar Raceway
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Yellow99RT
Dodge Dakota
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10/02/2003
21:38:01
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Yup, god damn EMPs...
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jaggy
GenIII
10/03/2003
16:54:10
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when I get mine working correctly I will call in a favor and see just how well it works.
I will post my findings.
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