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DieselDak
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6/22/2003
18:20:46
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Okay, i know i am settig myself up for bashing and for flaming of the Amsoil guy, but does anyone know any info on how well Amsoil performs in diesel engines?
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6/23/2003
08:31:03
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Amsoil Series 3000 is Amsoil's best oil in my honest opinion. It has the strongest additive package available.
AMSOIL Series 3000 5W-30 Heavy Duty Diesel Oil is our premium top of the line product. While there are best uses for both our Series 3000 and our AMSOIL 15W-40 Diesel and Marine Oil, Series 3000 is our recommendation for your Dakota V8. It has highly effective anti foam agents to prevent oil foaming and it offers better protective film at higher temperatures than conventional SAE 40 oils. Its advanced antiwear chemistry is designed to provide the best protection and offers good longevity for light duty applications.
The Series 3000 is Amsoils most advanced diesel formulation, and the best choice for any passenger car or truck diesel engine.
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Steven Roark , Amsoil Dealer , Proud Sponsor of www.DodgeDakotas.com
AMSOIL Synthetic Motor Oils, Lubricants, Filtration, and Truck Care Products
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CThomp
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6/23/2003
08:56:02
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You have a diesel in your dak?
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DD
Dodge Dakota
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6/23/2003
09:50:39
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CThomp,
Nah, I have access to a 5.9L diesel taken from my cousin's totaled Ram. I was thinking about doing a conversion of my Dak (210k hard miles but a perfect body) and replace the gasoline engine with his diesel. I know that it has been done by others, but it is quite a task. It would be a project truck. I was also interested because all my cars and trucks are diesel. I would like to be a DieselDak.
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CThomp
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6/23/2003
09:55:39
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ah. good luck. that 5.9L is a monster. I've heard you have to either move the hole firewall back or put the radiator and fans in the bed.
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IntenseDak39
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6/23/2003
11:39:47
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i believe Banks moved the majority of the firewall back 10" and the center of it back another 4"... plus they had to tunnel the floor for the huge-ass tranny.
Good Luck!
1998 Regular Cab V6 Auto
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MyDreamDak
Dodge Dakota
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6/23/2003
12:06:54
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Sideways Into the Record Book
"I'll kick your A$$ on straight diesel"
217.314 Miles Per Hour Dodge Dakota Diesel
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AmsoilSponsor
DakotaEnthusiast
6/23/2003
12:43:24
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Awesome Truck MyDreamDak.
Regarding my earlier post, I see that there was a typo ... or at least I feel I was unclear in my response. I was interupted by the telephone and my thoughts were crossed. Let me clarify:
Amsoil's only Series 3000 currently is a 5w-30 Synthetic Heavy Duty Diesel Oil and "is not" our recommendation for a gasoline powered Dakota - but it is certainly Amsoil's best Synthetic Diesel Oil and highly recommended for a diesel powered Ram 5.9L Inline 6.
For a gasoline powered Dakota we recommend as our first choice SAE 10w-30 Amsoil Synthetic Motor Oil. Of course there are viscosity options depending upon where you live (climate), driving conditions, and your personal driving style.
Sorry for the error. Because of the telephone call I got two different responses confused and my advise overlapped. I hope this clears things up and I will be more careful in the future.
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Steven Roark , Amsoil Dealer , Proud Sponsor of www.DodgeDakotas.com
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JimmyD
Dodge Dakota
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6/24/2003
06:22:26
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That Diesel Dakota is one bad-azz ride. Does anyone know if they are going to take it on tour?
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IntenseDak39
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6/24/2003
09:49:21
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well in one article i read it said they just began to tap the available power with that truck and they plan on hitting much higher numbers next year.
1998 Regular Cab V6 Auto
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Dr. D
Dodge Dakota
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6/25/2003
19:48:00
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Dodge does offer a diesel Dakota but will not sell it in this country.
It is only available in South America and you can see pictures, specs , etc. at the Corporate website.
Dr. D
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Amsoil does offer a great diesel engine oil and I highly recommend it
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Dr Dakota
Dodge Dakota
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12/17/2007
11:14:20
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Amsoil works GREAT in my Diesel
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Dr Dakota
Dodge Dakota
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12/17/2007
11:33:21
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I used to use Royal Purple
WARNING to ALL Royal Purple USERS
Royal Purple was specifically banned by Cummins due to excessive valve train wear.
If you don't believe it then just google it.
RP is big in racing circles but those engines are rebuilt after each race.
Royal Purple uses a different chemistry than most oils. They are one of only a handful of marketers using Moly in their oil. Moly is a solid which was specifically banned by Cummins.
Moly (Molybdenum Disulfide) is a processed mineral that is similar in appearance to graphite.
Moly has good lubricating properties when used either by itself in dry power form or as an additive to oil or other lubricants.
However, particles of the Moly can come out of suspension and agglomerate. This can actually clog oil filters or oil lines and the rest normally settles in the bottom of the oil pan.
Do you really want solid particles in your engine?
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keep dreaming
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12/17/2007
12:23:01
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Amsoil not recomened in Diesels
it is NOT API certified!!!
http://www.thedieselpageforums.com/tdpforum/showthread.php?t=11454
"I called the American Petroleum Institute to find out if Amsoil fully synthetic diesel oil is API approved (I talked to Kathy in the Motor Oils Division). I was told that Amsoil has been issued API License Number 0995 but that DOES NOT cover any of their multi-grade fully synthetic diesel oils. NoMo pointed out that the Amsoil does not carry the API starburst or donught-shaped logo.
Amsoil fully synthetic diesel oils are not API approved and are not approved for the use in your Duramax. API told me that all oils submitted for certification are tested by both their labs and an independent lab before a license for certification is granted. They would not tell me if Amsoil has submitted their oils and they failed, or if they have never submitted their oils for testing.
Amsoil claims that their synthetic diesel oils are "Recommended for Applications Requiring the Following Specifications:" and list various API ratings, but that is not the same a being API Certified, and not approved for the Duramax. They are telling you that you should beleive them that it meets API specifications, but we really don't know if it does or not. We do know it's not Certified as such. The only API Certified engine oils listed under the Amsoil license are the XL-7500 and PCO (synthetic blend) motor oils."
and truth is anyone can visit cummins web site
there is NOT a single word telling anyone not to use Royal Purple!
ironic amsoil tells you not to use Royal Purple?
when the TRUE facts are Royal Purple is API certidied! amsoil in NOT!
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Stan
Dodge Dakota
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12/17/2007
13:37:59
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AGAIN FOR THE Fücking RETARD
API is voluntary and not a mandate.
Redline is not API
Amsoil is not API
Not all Mobil oils are API
Some RP is not API
Who really cares about a gov't label
showing you meet minimum gov't API?
Amsoil exceeds minimum API certification!
GET A LIFE YOU Fücking RETARD.
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Stan
Dodge Dakota
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12/17/2007
13:40:36
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AGAIN FOR THE Fücking RETARD
API is voluntary and not a mandate.
Redline is not API
Amsoil is not API
Not all Mobil oils are API
Some RP is not API
Who really cares about a gov't label
showing you meet minimum gov't API?
Amsoil exceeds minimum API certification!
GET A LIFE YOU Fücking RETARD.
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Shatto
Dodge Dakota
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12/17/2007
14:41:13
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AGAIN FOR THE Fücking RETARD AMSOIL USERS
API is not voluntary it's a mandate.
Redline is API
Amsoil is not API
All Mobil oils are API
RP is API
Who really cares about a their bearings
showing you used crap fake synthetic?
Amsoil can't meet minimum API certification!
GET A LIFE YOU Fücking RETARD. USE API CERTIFIED OIL!
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hmmm
Dodge Dakota
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12/17/2007
14:57:24
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Dr. Dak is full of crap. I own a Ram with a Cummins and run straight moly in dino oil. I have over 200,000 miles and it runs like it did the day it left the assembly line. 1 quart of MolySlip to 11 quarts of 15W40 dino oil.
The moly particles are smaller than 1 micron so they can't clog the filter because 1 micron filters for diesels don't exist. The soot particles present in the oil of every diesel engine on the planet are bigger than the moly particles.
BTW, I did Google "Cummins bans moly", "Cummins valve train wear" and a couple of other things. No references. Get your facts right before posting lies. Lying sack of dog poop.
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Dr Dakota
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12/17/2007
15:29:10
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Moly in Engine Oil (Royal Purple uses lots of Moly).
Check out the OEM bulletin from Cummins ....
It is the Cummins Engine Oil Recommendations Bulletin No. 3810340-02.
Or you can stop at a Cummins Dealer and purchased the bulletin for about $3.
On page 7 it has a section on FRICTION MODIFIERS states:
There is firm evidence that certain friction modifiers, molybdenum dithiophosphate (moly) for example, can in certain formulations result in cam follower pin failure at relatively low mileage.
Molybdenum compounds in motor oils can degrade and cause bearing corrosion and is particularly aggressive towards copper. In almost all cases, any engine oil formula having "moly" will also contain a Copper Deactivator which will protect bearings from the moly compounds. The only problem, the copper deactivator decomposes at relatively low temperatures and looses it's potency after a few thousand miles.
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end of story
Dodge Dakota
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12/17/2007
16:13:21
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"Amsoil exceeds minimum API certification! "
ballz it does!!!!!
post the str8 facts you lyin worthless piece of sh!t
amsoil submitted their oils for API testing!
they failed the minimum tests!
they had to go back and cook up a whole new oil just to get one API approved!
this is so simple a dumb sh1t even as yourself can under stand it!
does anyone really think if their oils were "above" or even met api "minimum" standards
that they would only bring back 1 oil to get API certified ?????????
that statement is 100% true and speaks for itself!
amsoil COULD NOT get API certified!
and amsoil FAILED API minimum testing!!!!
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Dr. Dakota
Dodge Dakota
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12/17/2007
16:22:51
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DO NOT USE AN OIL WITH MOLY (Royal Purple) in your Cummins Diesel.
Cummins Engine Oil Recommendations Bulletin No. 3810340-02
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