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wrightster
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6/18/2003
00:41:49

Subject: OEM Power Locks/Windows Upgrade
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I have read alot of threads about people asking if its possible to change their manual locks and windows to the OEM power ones, but everyone seems to have opted for an after market upgrade instead.

What I want to know is if anyone was actually succesful at an OEM upgrade doing the work themselves. I will be attemping this as soon as I can round up all the parts needed. (Anyone got extra parts I can buy?)



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6/18/2003
22:11:12

RE: OEM Power Locks/Windows Upgrade
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Anyone even try this? Cmon it cant be that tough.



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6/18/2003
23:30:26

RE: OEM Power Locks/Windows Upgrade
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if i were to do it, id buy the oem switches, and aftermarket parts. probably a lot cheaper
pete



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6/19/2003
20:11:17

RE: OEM Power Locks/Windows Upgrade
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Has anyone attempted this or been successful at it? I have 97 Sport CC.



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6/24/2003
15:27:26

RE: OEM Power Locks/Windows Upgrade
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Anyone use the SPAL universal power window kits? How was the install? Does everything work right?



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6/25/2003
01:05:56

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I have a SPAL window kit in my Dak... and it works great.

I had my friend who is a car audio/car accesories installer put them in for me. It took him like 2 hours to do the whole install, but overall, it didn't look all that complicated (this included him fabbing me a driver side "lockout switch" so that I could control the passenger side window... so that my 3 year old can't roll down the window if I don't want him too.)

Overall, everything was pretty straightforward... just get the wiring right. :) I've been running it for 2 years now and so far so good... no problems that I am aware of.



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6/25/2003
15:47:45

RE: OEM Power Locks/Windows Upgrade
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Hey thanks.

Couple questions.... Did you get a universal kit or did you get the one that was specific for your vehicle?
Also, do you think it would be possible to use the dakota OEM switches to operate the SPAL kit or do you need to get the switches they offer? They seemed pretty generic to me so I was hoping the dodge switches would work.(look more stock that way)



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6/26/2003
01:55:38

RE: OEM Power Locks/Windows Upgrade
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I had a "universal kit" installed... and I don't know about using the factory switches.

Hoewever the "blank panels" in the doors were modified to accomodate the switches that came in the kit.

The only thing is... the switches that come in the kit have a "white light" in them while the factory switches are bluish like the rest of the dash lights.

Sorry, but I can't help ya on the "factory switch" question. Good luck in whichever you decide...



Mikey
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6/26/2003
11:28:32

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I did this on my '99. In short, it's a PITA and you'll spend a fortune (like $1500+). I put OEM power windows, locks, and mirrors in. The biggest problem is identifying the correct wiring harnesses. For the cost, I should have gone with the security, too, but didn't think about it at the time.

1) You have to replace the "base" CTM (central timer module) with a "high line".

2) You have to replace the main dash wiring harness, both door harnesses, and a couple of stub harnesses (I can't recall what on the last item). There's about 5 different combinations of harnesses depending on what options: power locks, mirrors, windows, security, keyless entry, Infinity speakers, and overhead console.

3) Replace the entire window regulator/motor assembly then find something to plug the window crank holes.

4) Replace the door lock mechanisms. Note that three different ones are available: standard, power, and power + security.

5) Install the switch assemblies in the doors.

6) Pay dealer to program the initial key fob with a DRB scan tool.



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6/26/2003
23:05:42

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Damn! That sounds like a super pain! Did you do all that yourself or did you have the dealer do all of it? If you did it yourself, how did you find all the parts you needed? That sounds like way more $ than I wanted to spend. Unfortunately I really want the stock look. I think I may try to use the stock switches to power after-market locks and windows.
Thanks a ton for all the info. I appreciate it.



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6/27/2003
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RE: OEM Power Locks/Windows Upgrade
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Whats wrong with using factory parts? find a salvage yard you can get everything in one stop. I installed power mirrors on my truck, the harness was already in the door for the mirror, also my truck does not have the factory fog lights but the connectors are allready there also. I could be wrong but it looks to me that the factory has gotten away from multiple harnesses depending on options, and went to one harness with connectors and sub-harnesses that can be added as needed.



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6/30/2003
00:57:03

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Well... my "aftermarket" SPAL power windows cost me less than $300 installed... Honestly, I'm sure I'm getting my money's worth. :)



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6/30/2003
01:53:36

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Hey do any of you guys know if dodge used any common parts between the Ram and the Dakota during 97-? I can find Ram window switches and window regulators and door acutators but I dont know if they will fit my dak. Any ideas how I can find out without buying the parts first? Thanks



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6/30/2003
10:21:35

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I did it myself but I used to be a mechanic so I didn't have a problem ripping the dash out of a brand new truck. I had to drop the headliner, too, but can't recall what the difference was in the cab harness.

Got the parts from the local stealership 'cause I had to spend a considerable amount of time looking at all the various harness combinations on the parts sheets. They cut me a slight deal (20%, I think) on all the parts.

I couldn't get the parts at a junkyard - there were no trashed '99 daks at the time. The CTM and key fobs are year specific and '99 was the first year for the new digital odometer so the entire instrument cluster and all harnesses changed in '99. In short, parts from an older dak weren't compatable.



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6/30/2003
10:31:41

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hey, i bought a bare bones 02 sxt. No power windows or locks. I was able to find a 99 dak sport in a local junk yard. I was planning on just getting all the hardware and putting in on my truck, but the door panels are completly different. Luckily the guy gave me a damn good deal on all the hardware and both door panels. Also pretty lucky that it was the same color as mine. I got it all for just over 200 bucks. It was fairly simple to install and I was able to get an after market alarm/keyless entry/remote start to work with it.



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6/30/2003
17:25:59

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What Jeremy stated in his post is exactly what I was saying, you may have to search a little but deals are there to be had.



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7/02/2003
00:51:53

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Hey mikey
Excuse my ignorance, but where is the CTM and do I really have to replace the WHOLE dash wiring?! I have found the regulators, lock actuators, switches and door wiring, but dont have anyway to hook the door wiring to the main wiring of the truck. Cant I just get a relay to make it work or do I have to replace it all? Thanks



Robert
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12/10/2004
15:31:19

RE: OEM Power Locks/Windows Upgrade
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Jeremy,

Could you tell me where the actuators are mounted?

Can anyone tell me, who has had their QC door panels off, where the power lock actuators are located?

I've got a QC without PL, and I bought a PL kit. I'm wondering where behind the door panel the factory lock actuators are, so that I can install mine in about the same location.

I took one panel (the front passenger door) off, and it looks like the right side actuators may go to the left of (in front of) the door release handle, and slightly above (right underneath the metal bracket that holds the upper part of the panel on).

If anyone can supply me pictures of where the actuators are on an '03 QC, I would appreciate your help.

Thanks for your assistance if you are able to provide it.

Robert



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12/11/2004
08:35:49

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so that my 3 year old can't roll down the window

slap his hand the first several times he does it and he won't do it again.



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1/02/2005
22:54:49

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Hello, and thanks to everyone for all the info. I am attempting the same project from hell (power windows, door locks, mirrors). Can anyone tell me if the lock actuators, window regulators, wiring in a '99 CC is different than what was in a '97? I can get all the parts needed from a wrecked '99, but will they work? THANKS!



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1/03/2005
22:32:56

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I have a 99 sport 4x4 that had power mirrors, but manual locks and windows.
I used Autolok kits for the door locks...tied to the alarm, then got colibri universal windows kits. The window kit came with switches but I purchased some factory switches from ebay. It will take some minor electrical metering to determing the correct pin outs, but I am ecstatic about how it all turned out. I do wish the colibri's had a little more ooomph on rolling up, but it could be the positioning in the door panel.
PS buy the switches first and save cutting the door panels for the included switches...I will be placing some tweeters in the holes I created previously.
-dk



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