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rijajum
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6/08/2003
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ok, I'm askin the guys that know welders. I am gettin into welding and am wondering between 2 welders. I am asking if yall could please help me. THe sites are at the bottom if you could please look at them for a second, and see. I'm gonna be usin a welder once I learn for stuff on my 94 dakota 4x4. I dunno if I should get a home depot or lowes special like below or somethin bigger. also in the future I want to make somethin around front and rear bumpers and stuff. preciate it.'
http://www.lowes.com/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=177708-1703-K2159-1
http://www.homedepot.com/prel80/HDUS/EN_US/diy_main/pg_diy.jsp?CNTTYPE=NAVIGATION&CNTKEY=market%2fpg_zip_code.jsp&BV_SessionID=@@@@0279443204.1055117952@@@@&BV_EngineID=ccddadciidjelggcgelceffdfgidgjl.0&DRC=4&catOID=100014760
thanks alot
rijajum86@hotmail.com
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rijajum
Dodge Dakota
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6/08/2003
20:36:29
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ok also the lincoln electric 3200 hd, I'm bout clueless.
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patindahat
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6/08/2003
21:20:45
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I have a mechanic friend who does quite a bit of welding. He has.... I believe its called a mig (feeds wire through a hose). He uses it for body work, and exaust work. but for frame and such thick, or structural things he has in the pasted borrowed a friends welder. It has sticks, and you attack one electric lead to the metal you will be welding, and hold the stick with the other lead.
I hope this helps some, as for brands all I know is the people I know that weld outta their garages really like the sears products.
Pat
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Rob454
Dodge Dakota
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6/08/2003
22:20:44
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I could only look at the lowes page. I would get the first one because it has a higher amp rating for welding at max.
its better to get a higher rated welder in case you start welding heavy guage steel you get better penetration. I have a small welder ( cambell housefield and its ok for light welding. I paid 250$ for it. i wish i could buy a better welder cause sometimes there is stuff I cant weld cause it wont be strong enough.
There are techniques for welding. youll learn as you go but one thing I can suggest is PRACTICE on pieces of steel. what you want is to make the welder spark sound liek bacon sizzling with no interruptions. one thing you can do is as you weld keep the weld hot and push into the bubble of weld so as youre welding you are pushing into the weld as youre going down the line youre welding this is how you get the nice flat style welding liek this (((((((((((((((((((((((((((
you can also go side to side for wider welds
but you need to practice.
Rob
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rijajum
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6/08/2003
22:47:33
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rob and patindahat I preciate the replies.
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gg
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6/08/2003
22:50:48
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igot a 110 mig from homedepot
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oO_Rogue_Oo
Dodge Dakota
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6/09/2003
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If you plan on welding on your 4x4 then one of these may be better for you.
http://www.mobi-arc.com/
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Dr. D
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6/09/2003
10:20:32
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NEVER buy a welder from a building supply store, go find yourself a welding supply store and deal with them.
Welding supply stores that sell brands such as Miller, Lincoln, Victor, Smith, Etc. will be able to provide you with higher quality equipment and free advice and information at about the same price.
You should not have any problem finding someone to help you set up your machine and showing you how to properly use it.
I completed a welding course at a local Technical College and this training has served me well.
Dr. D
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gg
Dodge Dakota
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6/09/2003
12:35:42
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that 110 mig from home dopot is a lincon,and it works,up to 3/16 thick,welds 1/4 inch,but you got to make 2 sometimes 3 passes,great for body work,home use,built aflat bed for '55 ford p/u ,
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gg
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6/09/2003
12:38:15
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same welder at weld suply store 600$ vs. home depo 400$,
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joshua porter
Dodge Dakota
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6/09/2003
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Thanks for helping
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welding guru
Dodge Dakota
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6/09/2003
17:48:24
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Check the specs, more often than not the building supply store welders have a lower duty rating read as not as good transformer, even in welders that may appear identicle
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Dr. D
Dodge Dakota
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6/09/2003
18:25:17
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Lincoln welders that you buy at Home Depot have NO Regulator (for shielding gas), A pitiful excuse for a welding helment (I think that it is hand-held), No Gloves, etc, etc.
I purchased a welder from a welding supply company and got ALL high quality components Plus, A whole lot more for a measly $80 price difference.
In fact ... I actually saved money due to the fact that my welder came with a regulator and a much larger spool of wire. Plus, I had the choice of flux core or solid wire.
Home Depot and Lowe's Can't even come close!
Dr. D
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Shank
Dodge Dakota
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6/09/2003
22:27:21
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Like they said above, Go to a Welding supply store, A Miller "Bobcat 225" Is about the best Gas powered Arc Welder running. I have run the 3,000+ hrs before we had any major problems.
Dr. D Hit the nail on the head. Go to a welding course or "Volunteer" some time at a welding shop or spend some time as a welders helper to learn the basics before you go out spending $600-$2,400+
Do some research, here are a few sites of the most popular and versatile brands:
http://www.millerwelds.com
http://www.lincolnelectric.com
http://www.hobartwelders.com
These are the "Chevy, Ford and Mopar's" of the welding industry.
Like anything else, You get what you pay for.... If you plan on just welding mufflers together get the $400 one @ Lowes or Home Depot. If you plan on welding anything heavier like Bumpers.... Better get a Heavy Duty MIG or Stick Welding Machine.
Good Luck,
Shank
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4/21/2004
15:09:01
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Lincoln Welders are good ?
unlike other lincoln's
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