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bfarina
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4/05/2003
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Recently I decide to do a fluid/filter change for my tranny. It has 170,000 miles on it and like to hop in and out of gear when it was cold, I thought maybe the filter was so clogged up it made it harder for the cold fluid to get through it. However while I had the pan off I attempted to adjust the Reverse/Low Band as the adjustor for it is in the pan. It didn't seem like it went very well as far as following the crappy Haynes manual, seemed like it needed to be turned quite a bit to get the proper torque reading, but it seems like it hooks up a lot better on the street now. My question is what are the repercussions of possibly over-tightening the bands? I figure I've been pretty lucky to make it this many miles with relatively little maintenance on it, but would like to get a timeframe as to how long I have to find another one before this one bombs out if I overtightened them. Thank you in advance....
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slow2dak
Dodge Dakota
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4/05/2003
20:29:49
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one of the major things about band adjustments it to get the proper pressure on the drums. too loose and it can start slipping and take some time to go into gear. also, if too tight, you can wear the bands out more quickly and leave a good imprint on the drum itself. did you adjust it with an "INCH LBS. TORQUE WRENCH"?
mike
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bfarina
Dodge Dakota
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4/05/2003
21:13:38
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I started out with an inch pounds torque wrench, but it was a rather cheap one. So I did the conversion to foot/lbs (72 inch/lbs = 6 ft/lbs). It just seemed like I had to turn it quite a bit before I got the right torque reading. I guess I'll see what happens...thx for the input
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slow2dak
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4/06/2003
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i am glad you set it to 72" lbs. that is the correct setting.
mike
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James 1963
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3/05/2004
20:04:27
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I adjusted the bands also but can't seem to get it right. I have seen back it off 2 times 3 times and 4 and 3 3/8ths. Seems to be something happening at around 50 or 60 miles doesn't feel like slipping but the noise is like a high rev. Of course the transmission shops say that the bands aren't suppose to be adjusted but the manual says otherwise. A little help here If anyone minds but between 50mph and 60 I get the high rev is that front band or rear band.I would hate to have to drain the transmission again. Thanks! James
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ray
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11/16/2007
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i got a tough one for ya. igot a 1992 dodge dakota le club cab with the 5.2l 4x4. when it is cold it shifts fine but when it gets up to operating temp it just sits still. any ideas what it is?
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KENNY
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1/08/2008
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i have no reverse! does not back up at all! in reverse it moves forward but with engine off reverse is neutral. drive works great shifts good except it statrs in second, im wondering if the reverse band brok and the planatary drive is locked on the main shaft? i need some help i am tachnical and rebuild air compressors daily but this is a littl bigger! lol its a 3.9 v6 4x4 with a 42rh transmission. PLEASE HELP!!!OH YA THE FLUID IS GOOD COLOUR????
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james1963
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1/08/2008
20:16:07
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Sounds like your cable needs adjusting also. Do you have a check engine light with this problem? I was told by a long time tranny mechanic that if your transmission oil pan has pieces of metal then its major and needs a rebuild. If just a little sludge in the bottom then its probably electical. So my suggestion is to pull the transmission oil pan and inspect whats in the bottom before you spend thousands.
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Wally
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1/13/2008
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Just a note on your torque wrench. If you used a wrench for ft/lbs and converted to in/lbs, you prolly screwed up :-(
Torque wrenches work most accurately at something within the "middle" of their range. When you take a wrench that covers 8ft/lbs to 75 ft/lbs and use it to set something like 10ft/lbs or 70ft/lbs, it won't be very accurate. No biggie if you are fastening something like a 1/2" bolt, but a tranny band... I dunno.
I'd yank the pan and re-do with a proper in/lbs wrench. But that's just me :-)
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Adam
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5/01/2008
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I had the same problem with my '92 Dakota with a 42RH. What happens with these is that with the factory valve body, the torque converter doesn't get "pumped up" in park or neutral. What this means is that if you have the slightest torque converter seal leak, the torque converter will bleed down when it sits. TransGo makes a shift kit that fixes this problem, and they give their own, less ambiguous specs for band adjustment. Worked like an absolute dream after I put it in, and shifted much quicker to boot. Of course about 30,000 miles later the torque converter seal only got worse, but as long as you keep fluid in it it's still ok.
I've seen the kit marketed through Pioneer and got it at O'Reilly's auto parts a couple years ago but haven't been able to find it since.
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Adam
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5/01/2008
22:52:30
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Ooh yeah, worth mentioning I suppose, 6 ft*lbs is the equivalent of 72 in*lbs. The conversion is simply ft*lbs=in*lbs/12, although I would agree with Wally that putting a ft*lbs torque wrench at the bottom of its range would probably reduce its accuracy. Then again, I'm the kind of guy who uses nothing but $25 torque wrenches, in which case it probably doesn't make much difference :)
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Bob Lincoln
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5/02/2008
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"I started out with an inch pounds torque wrench, but it was a rather cheap one. So I did the conversion to foot/lbs (72 inch/lbs = 6 ft/lbs)." You can't do this in the low ranges. It's way too inaccurate. You must use an in-lb torque wrench. Your choice - spend $30-$60 for a good tool, or ruin a $2,000 tranny.
"I had the same problem with my '92 Dakota with a 42RH. What happens with these is that with the factory valve body, the torque converter doesn't get "pumped up" in park or neutral." This is not true - the pump does run in neutral.
"i have no reverse! does not back up at all! in reverse it moves forward but with engine off reverse is neutral. drive works great shifts good except it statrs in second" Your shift linkage is screwed up. And with engine off, an automatic will roll in gear. DUH.
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dewayne
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11/27/2010
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SO WHAT IS THE BAND ADJUSTMENT FRONT AND REAR, ON THAT 42RH?
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scott
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7/29/2011
23:18:48
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My trans in 96 Dakota 4wd was slipping and at sum points I
would have to shift selector to neutral to allow it to shift to
3rd but then it would be fine. So I decided to flush n change
filter. N now the trans works sumtimes n other times it goes
into 3rd but it just revs n doesn't go actually. Is that sumthing
simple. I just don't understand how it works one day n the
next it wont. Help please
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Curly
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7/30/2011
10:19:59
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The first thing to do is check for stored codes.
The worst thing was waiting for a problem to arise
before changing fluid & filter.
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Curly
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7/30/2011
10:21:24
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Is the truck running rich?
(any smoke or smell of fumes?)
Standing near the tail pipe does it make your eyes
want to water?
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chuck ginsbur
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1/24/2012
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automatic wont shift until raved up out on road, shifts fine one day , next time shifts hard,
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chuck ginsbur
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automatic wont shift until raved up out on road, shifts fine one day , next time shifts hard,
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James Flourno
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1/24/2012
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Probably your speed sensor. Not very expensive and easy. You will have one in differential and one on the cone of transmission. Screws in and out like a light bulb and will have a wire attached. Unhook wire before removing and re-hook after replacing.
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Justin schmal
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12/17/2012
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my 1998 dodge dakota with the 5.2l and automatic transmission. when it is cold it likes to slip but when the truck has went down the road for a couple mintues and fluids are warming up it stops doing it what is the problem
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Harley wilson
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6/14/2013
16:50:00
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my transmission wont shift till about 4000 rpm what can I do to fix the problem is the bands need tightening
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