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Cueball
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3/13/2003
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I just removed my cat on my 4.7L. I have a Ravin exhaust and it sounds bad ass. It isn't to loud that cops will bug me and I noticed a little bit of a power increase. Anybody who is thinking of doing this should!!
Dave
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Fedman
Dodge Dakota
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3/13/2003
17:14:10
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Just remember it's a $2,500. federal fine running without one !!!
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Jon H.
Dodge Dakota
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3/13/2003
17:17:40
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But officer...i didn't know it was missing...someone must have stolen it....those b@st@rds
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Blckdak
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3/13/2003
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Stupid and pointless thing to do!
Erin
2000 CC 4x4 Sport
Magnaflow Exhaust, Z-Tube, Runnin AMSOIL
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xplikt
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3/14/2003
03:44:22
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Cat theives appear to be common here up North ;)
Screw you EPA.
-Mike
http://www.dodgetruckworld.com/xplikt/
2002 2WD RC SLT 4.7L 5spd 3.92 LSD
MBRP Single in/out | straight piped 3rd cat | turndown tip
Full Hotchkis (bars, springs, shocks) and RAS
Shaved emblems and antennae
150BM fan | removed clutch | HD Radiator
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Jon H.
Dodge Dakota
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3/14/2003
11:16:15
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Oh ok...so I should get a magnaflow and a z-tube (two popular things) but I shouldn't fix the REAL bottleneck of the system and cut the 3rd cat (because it isn't popular). No offense but have you done this to a 4.7 engine yourself? If so does that make it stupid because you don't like it? Just curious...not intending to start a flame.
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Notchlx
Dodge Dakota
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3/14/2003
12:52:13
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Suffering from emissions envy.
Why not remove it if you are in a location that doesn't recquire emissions testing?
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Smokey
Dodge Dakota
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3/14/2003
13:14:44
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IF I were wanting to remove it (again), I would just gut it and put it back on. I had mine off for about a month but lost too much low end, with no real gain. It was loud as funk too!
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Heavyweight
Dodge Dakota
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3/14/2003
13:48:48
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Erin, go hike to hell! JK.
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Rob454
Dodge Dakota
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3/14/2003
20:18:27
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it doesnt matter if we like it or not. Its ILLEGAL. Personally I hope you get caught. There are plenty of ways to add power to your vehicle and still be legal. its people like you that make it harder on everyone else. Yeah screw the enviroment who cares if I add to the pollution. I bet you also throw trash out the window too. But then again what do you care. youre too important.
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hamty
Dodge Dakota
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3/14/2003
21:55:40
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hey ROB, why dont u go eat a d*ck? my 2 cents
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Jon H.
Dodge Dakota
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3/15/2003
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Wow so If I remove one of three cats I'll be a polluter...wait a minute how bout I take a cold shower too...that'll save some pollution...and I can not use air conditioning...and I can wash my clothes and dishes by hand...and man...this computer is using energy too...god I am a horrible horrible person...go buy a hydrogen car and hug a tree.....and kiss my @$$...we all pollute...you can't exactly car pool with a dakota can you??? Actually why don't you just go live off wild berries in the woods naked with the animals? Maybe then you would be blameless...until you are...take that finger you are pointing and stick it up your gay @$$.
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Sin-City
Dodge Dakota
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3/15/2003
00:29:22
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hey Jon H, why dont u go give your mom a handjob and then eat a dic*k. u lil bastard
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Fedman
Dodge Dakota
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3/15/2003
08:02:09
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3 Kats will cost you
$2500.
$2500.
+$2500.
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$7500.
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Demon Dakota
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3/15/2003
13:43:53
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You guys are full of sh!t. It's not even enforced in most states. Most police turn a blind eye towards this VERY common practice. And where did you get the $2500 fine from? There's a fine listed for shops that remove them illegally, but not for individuals (not listed anywhere on EPA site).
K&N Drop in AF (CAI during summer months)
True Dual exhaust and removed third cat
HO Cams & HO Intake
FASTMAN 70mm TB
Autolite 3923 Plugs
TPS @ .76 VDC
IAT Adjuster Mod
14.52@94.2 MPH at Silver Dollar Raceway
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Fedman
Dodge Dakota
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3/15/2003
14:14:28
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SEC. 205. CIVIL PENALTIES.
(a) Violations.- Any person who violates sections 203(a)(1),
203(a)(4), or 203(a)(5) or any manufacturer or dealer who
violates section 203(a)(3)(A) shall be subject to a civil penalty
of not more than $25,000. Any person otherthan a manufacturer or
dealer who violates section 203(a)(3)(A) or any person who
violates section 203(a)(3)(B) shall be subject to a civil penalty
of not more than $2,500. Any such violation with respect to
paragraph (1),(3)(A), or (4) of section 203(a) shall constitute a
separate offense with respect to each motor vehicle or motor
vehicle engine. Any such violation with respect to section
203(a)(3)(B) shall constitute a separate offense with respect to
each part or component. Any person who violates section 203(a)(2)
shall be subject to a civil penalty of not more than $25,000 per
day of violation.
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DrewzR/T
Dodge Dakota
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3/15/2003
14:50:56
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Um why not just get a performance cat and be happy and legal all at the same time! Just my 2 cents!
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Jon H.
Dodge Dakota
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3/15/2003
20:30:30
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Ok guys....obviously everyone is touchy on this so why don't I have 2 cats and you can leave your three cats...or better yet you could buy a metro as to save more hydrocarbons than 18 cats on a dakota could...throw the first stone when you don't have any sin!!!! Stop being hypocrites
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Cueball
Dodge Dakota
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3/15/2003
23:40:53
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I didn't know that there is so many tree huggers on this site. I'm sorry for posting my message.....wait a minute, no I'm not. I live in Michigan near Detroit and the last thing that police are concerned with is if I have a cat or not.
Dave
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Smokey
Dodge Dakota
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3/15/2003
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Someone should do a before/after dyno when removing the cat. I bet the after will be worse than before.
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bakindak
Dodge Dakota
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3/16/2003
02:09:09
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well here is my 2 cents worth, if you can remove a cat and still be emission legal who gives a f*ck
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duh.....
Dodge Dakota
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3/16/2003
02:38:18
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Smokey - YOUR AN IDIOT!!! The gains from cat removal are HUGE!!! Duner got a 9hp gain from simply upgrading to a hi flow cat.
So smokey - its time you reasarch BEFORE you make such idiot statements.
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the joe dude
Dodge Dakota
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3/16/2003
04:04:40
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hey duh, why dont u go eat a di*k and stop posting such bullsh*t.
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Demon Dakota
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3/16/2003
10:20:59
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Well that's wonderful. It does have a fine of not more than $2500, but since I didn't do it myself, then I'm not liable :)
K&N Drop in AF (CAI during summer months)
True Dual exhaust and removed third cat
HO Cams & HO Intake
FASTMAN 70mm TB
Autolite 3923 Plugs
TPS @ .76 VDC
IAT Adjuster Mod
14.52@94.2 MPH at Silver Dollar Raceway
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Rob454
Dodge Dakota
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3/16/2003
16:56:15
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Im not a tree hugger but Im not going to sit here and pollute the enviroment just because I need the extra 2 HP removing the cat gives me. You can gain HP by adding a high flow cat and still be legal thats all i was trying to say. A buddy of mine removed the cat on his dakota and he lost low end power. There have been many tests done which prove removal of a cat does nothing for HP gains or very minimal. I dont sit here and hug the planet but neither am I willing to help damage it. You probably wont get caught in a million years but if things go the way they are youll see a lot more states doing more complete smog checks on vehicles. I jsut dont think its worth the possibility of getting caught ( besides having your truck spew out crap like a 1974 ford) and if you can get a higher flow cat installed and be legal why not do that instead of cutting out existing emmisions parts? there are plenty of ways to make power without resorting to illegal things. I dotn agree with a lot of laws but some of them make sense Say what you will but thats my opinion on the subject.
Rob
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Eggman
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3/16/2003
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I removed the tag off of my matress once......
00'r.c,solar yellow 40 flo',160 stat ,trick flow phenolic tb. spacer,R.T. tailpipe,pro-flo air cleaner
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Fedman
Dodge Dakota
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3/16/2003
17:56:32
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Well put Rob454
The penalties don't just apply to manufacturer or dealers you are not l@@king at the whole picture.
SEC. 205. CIVIL PENALTIES.
(a) Violations.- Any person who violates sections 203(a)(1),
203(a)(4), or 203(a)(5) or any manufacturer or dealer who
violates section 203(a)(3)(A) shall be subject to a civil penalty
of not more than $25,000.
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This is the you & me and your brother part!!!
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Any person other than a manufacturer or
dealer who violates section 203(a)(3)(A) or any person who
violates section 203(a)(3)(B) shall be subject to a civil penalty
of not more than $2,500.
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This is the multiplier part 3 Kats removed 3 fines along with any other emission control device
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Any such violation with respect to
paragraph (1),(3)(A), or (4) of section 203(a) shall constitute a
separate offense with respect to each motor vehicle or motor
vehicle engine. Any such violation with respect to section
203(a)(3)(B) shall constitute a separate offense with respect to
each part or component. Any person who violates section 203(a)(2)
shall be subject to a civil penalty of not more than $25,000 per
day of violation.
Drive Safely Folks
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Jon H.
Dodge Dakota
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3/16/2003
21:15:19
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I live in tampa florida...mail me the highflow cat and the money to put it on and i won't cut it!!! It all boils down to $$$$, that is why so many people are using nitrous...cheap performance for the money.
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Smokey
Dodge Dakota
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3/16/2003
21:50:24
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Like I said, aѕѕhole... I have already removed mine and lost tons of torque by doing so. I KNOW THIS FROM MY OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, NOT THE "HE SAID THIS, I HEARD THAT" CRAP. That's why I put a high-flow back on. Ever heard of backpressure? You can go back to hiding now, twerp.
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dakotadude17
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3/16/2003
22:01:25
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yeah, the cats add backpressure, but its more torque. By definition, torque is what accelerates a vehicle and horsepower is what carries it to top speed. Drag races and stoplight wars are won with torque. If you want to go faster, leave the cat on. If your that worried, go get a high flow. Then you can brag to your buddies that your truck is faster and smog legal!
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Jerry
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3/17/2003
19:22:18
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Yeah, Cat's give more backpressure, and it gives you a little more torque. My buddy sent me this page in an email, and I gotta wonder....It's just a cat! I'm a preformance mechanic in New Orleans. People are looking for 2 things....#1 Will my $hit sound badass without sounding like a rice rocket with a fart tube and #2 Will I be able to bury my needle on stright quiet roads. All you guys whining about "polluting the enviorment" Think about this. It doesn't matter if you cry on this forum or not, it's always gonna be there. There is a possibility of a neuclear attact and your worried about exhause fumes!? Jesus! If you want yours (or all 3) on, or you want to get a "preformance cat" thats fine. But don't bitch at people because they want to loose theirs I don't have a Dakota, I don't even have a Dodge! I have a 93 Chevy Blazer. You think I have a cat on it? Hell no! I run 15.1 in a quarter with a 4.3 v6 with nothing but bolt on parts (no NOS). If a cat will shave a few tenths off of my quarter mile time, I don't care. I like my truck the way it is and the way it sounds. Well, I guess that is my 2 cents worth. Yeah, I know, those are some big pennies
Later ya'll
-Jerry
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