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LI Blackdak..
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1/13/2003
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so being that I have vowed to never leave you people alone, has anyone raced a new (02-03)sentra SE-R or SE-R Spec V??? I'm just wondering which daks I can beat and whic can beat me. I think my car runs just above a 16(I think its lower, but that is what people have said). I know 5 speed 4.7 2x4s and R/Ts are out of the question(at least most of them). So who has raced one...just curious.



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1/13/2003
10:13:39

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YOU GIVE LONG ISLANDERS A BAD NAME.



LI Blackdak..
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1/13/2003
10:46:19

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we already have one...and why, just cause im bored??



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1/13/2003
12:17:13

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My friend had a 02 Spec V. Pretty quick little car. I like the seats and shift knob. He let me drive it a couple times and i would get it to chirp its wheels in 3rd gear, we thought that was pretty funny for a 4 banger. I also noticed that thing had terrible torque steer. But anyways, yes i have raced his. I have a CC 4X4 Auto w/ 4.7 and i beat him up until around 55- 60, thats when he started pulling on me. I also have an open bed so i had drag, plus the weight of 4X4 and really bad traction. He ended up trading the car in and Got a Eclipse GSX.... now that car is fast.

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LI Blackdak..
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1/13/2003
12:27:02

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yeah i heard they fixed the torque steer in the 03 models. I believe it too since i have no problem with it really. I have an auto and it spins the tires a bit off the line..lol it is funny for a 4 banger..lol. I once drove a 4.7 4x4 cc auto...didnt feel all that quick...although it had 3 people in it..i dunno 94 5.2 jeep is much faster



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1/13/2003
12:43:04

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little dik

four cyc..four door..automatic

sounds like a girls car.. is it a pretty color



LI Blackdak..
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1/13/2003
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probably can roast ur ass



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1/13/2003
13:12:18

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So, you gave up your slow truck for a slower car? Good job.

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LI Blackdak..
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1/13/2003
13:40:28

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um no...i had a V6 CC 4x4 auto. this car is much much much much much faster.

its silver..i think its pretty...
ill race any dak...i dont care if i lose...but no stock 4x4 V8 auto or any V6 will ever beat me(unless i dont hit the gas in time...ahahahaha)



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1/13/2003
13:58:05

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Depends how much Uncle Bens you put in your gas tank. OHHH YEEEAHHH !!!!



LI Blackdak..
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1/13/2003
14:02:28

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lol. at least it doesn't use a gallon of uncle bens every time I got 12 miles....and I have a moonroof...what!!!

i can't wait for one of those cars that runs on methane from garbage so i can get a honda and actually pour rice in the tank...lol



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1/13/2003
14:26:48

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Should of gotten yourself a nice German car :) I bought a used one for 14K for my second vehical. Yes it's only a 4 cylinder Stick 5-speed (30mpg+) but it does have a turbo. So it runs on beer rather than rice.
http://members.cox.net/fastdodge/B5.jpg

Still can't beat the power of a V8RWD! http://members.cox.net/fastdodge/donut.jpg





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1/13/2003
14:36:59

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no...no nazi mobiles for me thanks...lol. 5 speed is gay. the only time i ever wish i had a stick is during a race...and for that it really isnt worth it for all the shifting I would have to do in traffic.



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1/13/2003
15:09:41

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You don't want the 5-speed cause your right arm gets enough of a work-out as it is, huh?

Just playin' around with you =)

One of my neighbors here in the townhouse complex I live in has an SE-R. I have an '02 4.7 QC Auto, and I think it feels pretty quick. Don't worry dude, I feel your pain, I used to have a '99 V6 CC Auto. But, I went a different route than you and updated the Dak to a V8, though I did gain the QC weight, but I'd do it again in a heartbeat.

To each his own.



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1/13/2003
15:33:56

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I would have but the cost of a V8 dak at this point was too much and I really have no use for a truck. Plus i needed to save some gas.



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1/13/2003
15:33:57

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5-speed=
Better MPG + More power to the Wheels + less weight + Any RPM launch at your own risk :)
Fun to shift threw the gears and shift at any rpm within the limiter 6500+

Try selling you SE-R, I bet you would of paid less for a stick and when it comes time to sell do you think the person wanting to buy a used SE-R wants the Auto? No way, they want a sporty 5-speed. Same goes with the Integras, Eclipes and Celicas. That segment say's entry level sporty car.



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1/13/2003
15:42:41

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um i havent even made a payment. there is a market for them because they are unique. I can't think of any automatic car that gives nearly as much power anywhere within $5000 of the price. I wanted lazy power and I got it. the only things close with auto are like 23,000(which i couldnt afford).



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1/13/2003
15:59:58

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Really...thats funny because i thought the srt-4 neon was 20k.



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1/13/2003
16:09:52

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Hm, Srt-4 Neon, PT Turbo, SVT Focus, Jetta 1.8T, RC Dakota 4.7, Mini Cooper S, can all be had for about the same price, and all are decently quick (a couple are actually bloody fast). You are correct on gas though, the V8 would not be the way to go. I think out of that list, I would prefer the SVT Focus (new 5-door) or the Jetta 1.8T (mods for this thing can produce some ridiculous results, like a chip + exhaust + intake alone will have you blowing away cars left and right).

Of course, for the money, nothing beats an old beater Camaro, which brings us back to the gas issue.

Well, like I said before, to each their own.



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1/13/2003
16:17:04

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AUTO for under $20,000=NONE OF THEM!!!!!! yes the slower pt and the regular jetta, neon has no auto, cooper cost more then 20 if you get an S, focus is not AUTO!!! RC=hell no CC=over 20 unless its NOT AUTO!!!! did u miss my whole point or what. besides if i was gonna get something like this in stick id do mazdaspeed protoge...that is the best of all the under 20,000 perfomance cars. BUT ALL OF THEM ARE ONLY 5 OR 6 SPEED!!!!!(unless you spend MORE THEN $20,000!!!!)



LI Blackdak..
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1/13/2003
16:18:38

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in addition to that even if they do fall below 20 they probably are slower!



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1/13/2003
16:22:16

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oh my god..... i got a story for you and your little SE-R

a guy i work with has an SE-R. he came to work today with the whole front end smashed in! headlights smashed, bumper half gone, hood pushed up and back and bent in the middle. the headlights and bumper were hanging by duct tape.

im like "man! what the f*ck did you do?????"

"i rear ended a DAKOTA!!!, his rear end had almost no damage at all........"

LOL.... this is no bull sh*t.

damn imports crumple like tin foil.



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1/13/2003
16:30:31

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Oh, sorry Lil' Blackdak, I did miss the part about an auto tranny. =( My bad.

However, once you learned to drive stick well I guarantee you it would not be a problem (yes, even in traffic). Anyone who drives stick will tell you that once you've got it down, you hardley realize you're shifting anymore, it's just second nature.

All you keep talking about is how much faster your new car is, trust me, if you had gotten the 5-speed you would have saved money, gas and your car would be even faster, and in a couple of weeks, you wouldn't even have batted an eye at shifting.



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1/13/2003
16:33:53

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Oh, and just so you know I'm not trying to put you down or anything, I'm just saying. Sometimes I regret not getting a 5-speed in my 4.7 QC (see, it's ok, you can admit it). =)

And just so you know, I live in Los Angeles and go to college in Massachusetts (drive back and forth in the summer), so I know both ends of the traffic spectrum and I still sometimes regret not getting the 5-speed.



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1/13/2003
16:56:37

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used to have a little red thing as i called it, with a 5 speed. man i came off the off ramps curves at 60 MPH and coming on the on ramps at 80 MPH. Boy that was fun. Sold the car now just have automatics. And are they B O R I N G. You sit there and push the pedal and brag how good you are at pushing the petal. Yawn, ZZZZZZZ



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1/13/2003
17:54:51

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hey LI Blackdak, I live one town over, I'll race you in your womanly car anytime, anywhere.



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1/13/2003
19:08:12

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I'm VERY glad I got a 5sp in my QC/4.7. It's a heck of a lot more fun than an auto, but can be a bit of a pain in Atlanta traffic (which is more than made up on the on-ramps).

Lil'Blackdak--I'm not gonna rag on you for buy and SE-R. At least it's not a Civic. I'm interested to know how quick it really is---just in case I meet one at a redlight.




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1/13/2003
20:37:04

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when i had my mustang stairght stick, i had a on ramp with a long straight away into it's own lane.
i used to slow slow down to 15 MPH coming into it ( piss'd off the folks behind me) then i'd punch it. coming out at about 85 MPH. a cop stopped me once - i was coming out faster than him drivin on the freeway. i told him i was just trying to merge and i didn't know the speed limit on the on ramp. He let me go.

ther's classy cars and there ain't



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1/13/2003
22:44:17

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im sorry man but put a roxy sticker or some butterflys on that car it sucks . i have a 4 banger but a least mines domestic and a stick. thats as nicely as i can say it .later all.



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1/13/2003
23:18:40

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lil dink

you think a 5 speed is gay

God you are a girl.



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1/14/2003
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yeah domestic 4s..good way to lose 50 hp. there are definatly no demestic 4s(non turbo) that are faster.

girls car. yeah ok...that is really mature. roxy sticker lol

u guys will be sorry when i get some hp adding stickers!!!

who lives a town over from me and what town do u mean and when did i say where i live and girls cars can't spin the tires and im also glad i didnt get a civic

as for how fast it is i hear anywhere between 16.2 and 15.7 so I'll say 15.9 0-60 7.7 thereabouts



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