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CThomp
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1/07/2003
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I'm about to do a massive fluid change and possible flushing? Just for the heck of it. My '00 4.7L 5spd 2wd LSD has 41,000 miles on it. I'm currently running valvoline synthetic 5w-30. I live in South Florida. So heat is a factor in what fluids I choose.
A list of what fluids/viscosities whatever I will need would be helpful. I don't have time to order online so all fluids will be from the local parts store.
Any help would be really appreciated.
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xplikt
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1/07/2003
10:24:38
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I don't have time to order online so all fluids will be from the local parts store.
I think ordering online takes much less time, but it does take longer to get your stuff.
I say put Redline in the diff, tranny, and power steering. Your coolant shouldn't be too bad, but you can give it a look.
-Mike
http://www.dodgetruckworld.com/xplikt/
2002 2WD RC SLT 4.7L 5spd 3.92 LSD
MBRP Single in/out, straight piped 3rd cat, turndown tip
Hotchkis swaybars and springs
Bilstein custom tuned shocks
Roadmaster Active Suspension
Shaved emblems and antennae
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kicker01
Dodge Dakota
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1/07/2003
10:49:24
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CThomp, where in S. FL you at. Orlando here.
Steve
01 rc 4.7 5spd
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CThomp
Dodge Dakota
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1/07/2003
11:46:22
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So what about viscosities? For say the tranny and differential? Also who has the best prices online?
I'm in Ft. Myers
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xplikt
GenIII
1/07/2003
12:51:20
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http://www.myoilshop.com has the best prices, service, and shipping you can find for Redline oils. Summit also has pretty good prices on Redline.
You only need 1 qrt. bottle for the power steering. The others I don't remember the amounts. If you have a service manual, it'll be in there. It's something like 2 bottles for one and 3 for the other.
-Mike
http://www.dodgetruckworld.com/xplikt/
2002 2WD RC SLT 4.7L 5spd 3.92 LSD
MBRP Single in/out, straight piped 3rd cat, turndown tip
Hotchkis swaybars and springs
Bilstein custom tuned shocks
Roadmaster Active Suspension
Shaved emblems and antennae
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CThomp
Dodge Dakota
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1/07/2003
12:57:24
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Thanks for the help...I've got one more question just for you xplikt. What size u-bolts did you buy to make that rear leaf drop work with the active suspension? Where did you get them and do you have a part number? I figured just stainless u-bolts from Lowes or Home Depot.
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xplikt
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1/07/2003
13:21:28
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I wish I had a Lowes, but the U-bolts from Home Depot don't fit -- from the what I looked at. I just bought some from NAPA. It's funny because they only had one box (two u-bolts). So I ask him if they have that same size, but longer. Ahh, what a surprise, they do. So I cut two of them down and there was enough thread for it to work.
At Home Depot, I did buy some stainless washers and lock washers to go on the u-bolts though. You can see them here:
http://www.dodgetruckworld.com/gallery/xplikt/78815.jpg
I am a big fan of lock washers and nylocks *shrug*.
Usually replacement u-bolts have a lot of thread and you need to cut them down. They do that on purpose.
-Mike
http://www.dodgetruckworld.com/xplikt/
2002 2WD RC SLT 4.7L 5spd 3.92 LSD
MBRP Single in/out, straight piped 3rd cat, turndown tip
Hotchkis swaybars and springs
Bilstein custom tuned shocks
Roadmaster Active Suspension
Shaved emblems and antennae
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AmsoilSponsor
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1/07/2003
13:24:45
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Perhaps one of the best "Fluids Change" threads on DodgeDakotas.com:
Replacing ALL Fluids
For additional information, please post your questions here and I will respond.
Steven Roark , Amsoil Dealer , Proud Sponsor of www.DodgeDakotas.com
AMSOIL Synthetic Motor Oils, Lubricants, Filtration, and Truck Care Products
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DakotaEnthusiast
1/07/2003
13:29:25
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To answer your concerns about viscosity:
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VISCOSITY..in the general term is defined as " a fluids resistance to flow". it's a measure of the internal friction of the fluid or the resistance to the movement of one layer of molecules relative to an adjacent layer.
THE LOWER (SMALLER or FIRST #, as in "10w-_) NUMBER.. is the Cold Cranking measurement, made at low temperatures, using a concentric cylinder viscometer to predict the oils cranking resistance in an engine during cold starting.
The measuring devices, or viscosmeters, most often used are in the form of close-fitting concentric cylinders. The fluid being evaluated is placed between the cylinder walls, the outer cylinder is held stationary and the inner cylinder is rotated. The speed of rotation is measured for a given force to calculate the viscosity, most commonly reported in cp or centipoise units. Also known as Absolute Viscosity.
THE HIGHER (BIGGER or SECOND #, as in "-30") NUMBER...is commonly measured in capilary tubes, in which the time for a fixed volume of fluid to flow through the tube under gravity at operating temp (100c)is measured and reported as cSt or centistokes. This is used most commonly to report the normal operating viscosity of motor oils or the higher number.
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" 0W- " is a viscosity GRADE, not a viscosity MEASUREMENT.
When testing for cold fluidity, the temperature is lowered approximately 5 degrees centigrade between each test.
The Cold Crank Simulator Apparent Viscosity is tested at:
-20 C for 10W-
-25 C fpr 5W-
-30 C for 0W-
It is my understanding that the oil has to be labelled at the lowest temperature it meets the specifications.
It may not be long before someone comes out with a " -5W-30 " which would correspond with -35 C.
Steven Roark , Amsoil Dealer , Proud Sponsor of www.DodgeDakotas.com
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xplikt
GenIII
1/07/2003
13:48:30
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I WIN! I knew Amsoil guy would show up. "Fluids" is like the Batsignal for AmsoilSponsor.
-Mike
http://www.dodgetruckworld.com/xplikt/
2002 2WD RC SLT 4.7L 5spd 3.92 LSD
MBRP Single in/out, straight piped 3rd cat, turndown tip
Hotchkis swaybars and springs
Bilstein custom tuned shocks
Roadmaster Active Suspension
Shaved emblems and antennae
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DakotaEnthusiast
1/07/2003
15:05:21
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xplikt,
Was there a bet that I was unaware of? LOL !!!
RE: the question " So what about viscosities? For say the tranny and differential? " I offer the following:
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Amsoil Series 2000 75w-90 is excellent for use in passenger cars and trucks requiring a GL-5 gear lube, including those with limited slip differentials.
Helpful Differential Recommendations:
-Flush (drain) as much of the old fluid out.
-Differential fluid capacity depends on ring gear and axle housing size.
-Do not over/under fill differential. This could mean a capacity difference of a quart or more and may cause overheating problems. (See the owner’s manual for proper fill level)
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AMSOIL gear oils are formulated with friction modifiers for limited slip differential applications. There is no need to add limited slip or additional additives. If you choose a different manufacturer than Amsoil ... fine by me, just offering my services.
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-After changing the differential fluid, drive the vehicle in 7 or 8 figure eight turns, so the new lubricant can work its way into the axle assembly.
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Synthetics provide the long-lasting protection, fuel efficiency and dependability needed for top performance, even extreme-pressure conditions. Stays fluid in cold temperatures for easy cold-weather shifting.
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Yes xplikt, I am always lurking .... and happy to help anytime.
Steven Roark , Amsoil Dealer , Proud Sponsor of www.DodgeDakotas.com
AMSOIL Synthetic Motor Oils, Lubricants, Filtration, and Truck Care Products
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DakotaEnthusiast
1/07/2003
15:07:45
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xplikt,
Was there a bet that I was unaware of? LOL !!!
RE: the question " So what about viscosities? For say the tranny and differential? " I offer the following:
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Amsoil Series 2000 75w-90 is excellent for use in passenger cars and trucks requiring a GL-5 gear lube, including those with limited slip differentials.
Helpful Differential Recommendations:
-Flush (drain) as much of the old fluid out.
-Differential fluid capacity depends on ring gear and axle housing size.
-Do not over/under fill differential. This could mean a capacity difference of a quart or more and may cause overheating problems. (See the owner’s manual for proper fill level)
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AMSOIL gear oils are formulated with friction modifiers for limited slip differential applications. There is no need to add limited slip or additional additives. If you choose a different manufacturer than Amsoil ... fine by me, just offering my services.
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-After changing the differential fluid, drive the vehicle in 7 or 8 figure eight turns, so the new lubricant can work its way into the axle assembly.
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Synthetics provide the long-lasting protection, fuel efficiency and dependability needed for top performance, even extreme-pressure conditions. Stays fluid in cold temperatures for easy cold-weather shifting.
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Yes xplikt, I am always lurking .... and happy to help anytime.
Steven Roark , Amsoil Dealer , Proud Sponsor of www.DodgeDakotas.com
AMSOIL Synthetic Motor Oils, Lubricants, Filtration, and Truck Care Products
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99blkdak
Dodge Dakota
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1/07/2003
22:15:17
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Valvoline now has a synthetic tranny fluid for chryslers. Works great in tranny and transfer cases
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CThomp
Dodge Dakota
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1/08/2003
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Whats the part or model number 99blkdak?
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sandman
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1/08/2003
14:19:59
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If I were you I would contact Valvline and ask them if their base stock is Hydrocraked. If it is you do not want it. Hydrocracked is not a true synthetic but legally they can call anything synthetic now! You also want to make sure that it also meets ATF+4 requirments at the minium. You also do not want to put anyfluid in your tranny tranny designed to swell seals. The Maxlife brand is designed with extra seal swelling chemicals and this is expressly forbiden by DaimlerChysler!!!
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DakotaEnthusiast
1/10/2003
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Sandman,
Valvoline regular ATF is made from Group I and their synthetic ATF is made from Group III. No true synthetic ATF line available from Valvoline.
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Jim
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1/10/2003
10:32:48
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I cannot give you the specifics on any of the ATF's in question, but I have used the Amsoil Universal Synthetic ATF in several transmissions. Several people question the use of a Universal ATF fluid for the Chrysler unique specification ATF+4, I believe. RedLine makes one specific to type, that is one for Dexron, one for Mercon and one for Chrysler. Amsoil is Universal and that is why it is questioned, given the different manufacturer specs. For the Record, I have used Amsoil Universal Synthetic ATF in a Toyota, Isuzu, Chevy, Ford, Buick, and Dodge with no problems. I think all my transmissions love me for using Amsoil. One ATF Fluid is all I need for all my vehicles, and that fluid is Amsoil Universal Synthetic ATF.
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