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wetfeet
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11/08/2003
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A couple weeks ago, I discovered water under the floor mat on the passenger side of my '02 Dak. After drying the water, I've found it several time s again. I've tried to feel under the dash for traces of a leak but have found nothing. I've seen other postings that referred to a similar problem but have not found a solution. Does anyone know if there is a recall for this type of thing? If not, can anyone that has had this problem give me some advice. Thanks.
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jeremiah2360
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11/08/2003
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There is a TSB for pre 03s. Involves adding 90' elbow on AC drain tube.(if AC is culprit) They wouldn`t do this on mine because DC redesigned drain set up for 03. They just removed an obstruction.
03 qc 4.7 auto 4x4 21k
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Ed
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11/10/2003
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Yea, sounds like a problem I had. The drains on the heater and AC units sometimes get clogged with leaves etc. This causes water to back up into the venting system. Go ahead and clean the drain tube before you take it in and have someone look at it.
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03dak47
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11/24/2003
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I have never had that problem on a dakota. That same problem happened to a friend of mine with an S-10 though, turned out it was his heater core.
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Bobby
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11/26/2003
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Anyone know the TSB# or the part # of the 90 degree adapter
Bob
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Dan
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12/19/2003
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I have a 97 that used to have this problem. There was no issue with the A/C condensate drain on my truck. After most storms I would notice that the carpet was wet. Actually the pad was soaking wet and developed a mold problem (nasty!). The cause was a leak in the joint between a plastic shroud that surrounds the heater exterior air inlet in the passenger side cowl corner, and the sheet metal floor of the cowl. This appears to be part of the heater box and was pushed through the opening at the time of assembly from inside the cab. The gasket either deteriorated or it was never installed. To diagnose, remove the kick panel and pull back the passenger side carpetting from the firewall and floor. Remove the wiper arms and the windshield cowl cover. Contort your arm to pass through the openings in the cowl sheet metal and reach back toward the corner of this area (beneath passenger corner of the windshield). You will feel the shroud. I stress feel because you won't be able to see squat! The top of this shroud is wide open, so don't feed the heater by dropping anything into it. Carefully flood the floor of the cowl with a garden hose being certain not to put water into the opening of the shroud. Have someone watch for leakage inside the cab. In my truck, the water followed both the firewall and the bottom faces of the heater box. I tried to seal the interface between the shroud and the sheet metal with soft putty, but was unsuccessful. I smeared the joint with massive quantities of silicone seal using my finger as the applicator (this is a blind operation). The back upper edge does not need to be sealed, only the lower three edges. This completely solved my problem...not a drop has come into the cab since. I left the carpet off the floor for quite a while to verify this. Then I replaced the pad and cleaned the carpet to get rid of the odor. Good luck! This will not be fun, but it beats draining the refrigerant, tearing apart the dash, removing the heater box, and then reversing the procedure for re-assembly.
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lorne
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8/18/2004
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2002 dakota water passenger floor pretty shure its the ac drain tube as mentioned above.Had same problem went to dealers three times they found a leak in rear quarter window then still flooded floor,finally added the elbow the dealers have a TSB or something,anyhow its free!!! good luck
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daksprtplus02
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8/26/2004
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I have this on my 02 CC as well. I didn't realize how bad it was until I pulled up the carpet today. I had at least a 1/2 gallon of water between what was just floating there and the carpet squeezings. I left the passenger half apart right now to dry and went to the dealer after doing research here about the issue. I found my drain plug and there is no 90 degree tube, just a big black hole in the firewall. There is a metal plate a few inches from the hole. I have an appointment next week to have it looked at/fixed. He told me it would be at least $90. Twice though he asked what year my Dakota was. I drove at 55mph with the carpet pulled back and AC on. I could watch the water flow from upper left side of passenger floorboard. At a standstill, I watched it drip off the frame rail. If there is a TSB, I would love to know the number before next Wednesday. I need ammo for the service dept.
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daksprtplus02
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8/26/2004
15:58:10
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Followup to my previous post. I found the TSB number for this issue. Her it is: 2301004. I don't want to pay $40 for the info from NHTSA though. Is there another way to find this out? Also, what do dealers have to say about TSB's vs full recalls?
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Lance BeDour
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9/01/2004
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Just got my 03 Dak back from the dealer today after removing 1 1/2 gal. of water from the front pass. seat. Dealer said the drain was OK. They said they found a SMALL leak around the lower right side back window. They sent it out to have it resealed. I think I have been bull S----ed. I am going to hit it with the power washer tomorrow. I still think it might be a problem up front. By the way this truck has 36,300 miles on it. 400 miles ago they replaced all 4 ball joints. What a piece of #%*&.
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Chandler
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9/08/2004
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I had the same problem with water on passanger side floorboard. The dealer said he couldn't find it the he had it under a pressure water hose for 24 hours.
When I went to pick it up. You could see the water coming into the truck. I got the GM out there to witness the problem and they had to sent the truck to a Body Shop.
When the truck came back, it had a small leak around the lower back window that allowed water to seap in. Ity had to be re-sealed.
I haven't had the problem since.
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wetfeet 2
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9/10/2004
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I had the same problem w/2002 Dakota. It was a factory seam behind the back window that was never welded and sealled. All covered under warranty including replacing the Carpet with a little arm tristing
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hooker
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10/09/2004
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I had this problem for a long time on my 97 Dakota.
After many shop vacs of water I found a simple fix. Turns out there is a wire bundle that comes from the doorjam to the door on the right hand door. Carries electrics for the locks, mirrors, speakers, etc. The grommet seemed to have become hard or something and didn't seal well. I used grey tape and taped over the bundle so as to keep the water from running down the door jam onto the wire bundle and flowing through the seal into the interior behind the passenger kick panel.
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Relf
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10/31/2004
22:43:47
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I think that I have solved my wet passenger's floor board problem. A friend told me to check it and he was right. The "third brake" light that is mounted on the back of the cab has a thin foam gasket that has seemed to have slipped downward into the body of the cab. The dealer said there is no replacement gasket that I could buy separately from the $50 light assembly, so I reused the old one. I cleaned the mounting hole in the cab and the light assy. with alcohol and applied clear silicone to both parts and the gasket. I am waiting for it to rain to test my repair. I will report back hopefully with good news. Relf.
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Relf
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12/02/2004
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Well, the rain came and so did the puddle on the passenger's side floor. I guess that I fixed only one area of a leak. I will try Dan's idea that is posted 9 posts above this one. Hope it works.
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steveO
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12/03/2004
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I own an 87 dakota and I had the same problem for quite some time. The final solution I came up with was multiple problems. first, was the seal in my rear window, second was the grommet in the door, it needs to be replaced, the factory seal is not good, and third was the heater drainage tubeing. Don't get the misconception that because it's old it's falling apart. I have maintained this truck well! I am only the 2nd owner, and my father was the 1st. It's been dropped, 18 crome mondaro extacys, tunneau cover 2 12" custom tweets, mids in the doors. so it's not old. The 3.9 V6 is still kicking a lick too.
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ROGER
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12/06/2004
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I HAVE A 2002 DAKOTA ALSO. I WAS ON VACATION WHEN WE DISCOVERED ABOUT 1 1/2 INCHES OF WATER IN THE FLOOR. WE TRACED IT DOWN TO THE AC DRAIN TUBE. WE WENT TO A PARTS STORE AND BOUGHT A PREFORMED 90 {IT WAS ACTUALLY FOR SOME KIND OF EMISSION CRAP ON A FORD CAR } I PUT A LITTLE SILICONE SEALER ON IT THEN SLID IT INTO PLACE AND HAVENT HAD ANY PROBLEMS.
THANKS HOPE I COULD HELP
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Relf
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12/06/2004
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Thanks for your post Roger. My problem never happens during dry weather. I find my floorboard in an inch of water only after it rains. It's gonna rain tonight here in Northern California. Maybe I should sleep in my 4X4 tonight and watch with my flashlight where the water comes from. Relf.
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Bryan
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12/10/2004
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In regards to your leak . I had the same problem with my 2002 Dakota. I took it too the dealer and they had a smoke test done on the firewall and found one of the seams in the firewall that had not been sealed from the factory. Since that day i have not had another problem with it.
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Brad Dearingt
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3/23/2005
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I too found water under rug on pass side. Not antifreeze, and it was after a BIG rainstorm so not from the drain tube. I pulled back the rug, removed the pass plastic foot kick panel, the power AM/FM amp behind the panel(if equiped)and removed the windshield wiper cowling. I waited till night and stuck a 100 watt light bulb up the empty chamber created above by the pass foot area. Looking inside the engine compartment the light showed an open seam about 1/2" long and about 1/8" wide about 4" - 5" down from the bottom of the windshield just inside from what the windshield cowling covered. When it rained hard the water would cascade down the windshield, behind the cowling and pour down the hole. Household calking has taken care of the leak for the last 15 months. Good luck as finding a water leak is not a easy task. The thing is use a 100 watt light and nighttime. Hope this helps.
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Relf
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3/23/2005
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I have found the source of my wet passenger side floor, it was the lower left corner of the rear slider. I removed the rear passenger seat, back cushion and pulled away the plastic panel which houses the rear speaker to get a better look. I set a 32oz. plastic cup with a small hole on the side,with water in it, on top of my truck. I positioned the cup so the water would come out and saturate the suspected leaky area. I watched the water drip onto the metal floor, near the rear seat belt reel. From there, the water would move its way forward, saturating the carpet all the way to the front. I then put a shop light on the outside of the cab, over the leaky area, and saw light from the inside of the cab. I cleaned the seam between the slider assembly and the body of the truck on the exterior of the truck with denatured alcohol. Then, I sealed the gap all around the seam with 100% clear silicone. Below the lower corner of the slider you will notice where the cab's body sheet metal pieces overlap each other. The seam runs from the underside of the rear window down to the bottom of the cab. This seam is another possible leak source and needs to be cleaned and sealed with silicone. I sealed the leaky areas from the outside of the truck first, then I did the best job I could to seal the seams from the inside. It is hard to seal the inside since there is sheet metal covering the other seams. I cut a 2" X 2" area away with a die grinder to expose this area. This new hole will be covered by the plastic panel which houses the rear speaker. After all the sealing with silicone was done, I ran the cup of water test again. No more leak! Dodge seems to use a mastik or some kind of sealer when they join sheet metal pieces before the paint process. They did a poor job of sealing this area of my truck and possibly many others. By the way, I have a '98 Dakota 4X4. Relf.
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