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CrzyBri82
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5/10/2002
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I have a 2000 Dakota V8. I was driving around when i noticed a sorta moaning noise coming form the rear end when driving at low speeds. I have been told that the LS is going out on it and the whole rear end needs to be replaced. What is making this noise?
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dropt98dakota
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5/10/2002
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a couple years ago mine was making some noises, take it to a shop and have them take it for a test drive. They should be able to tell what it is. I was told that mine was the axle bearings, took it into the dealer and it ended up being the LSD.
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Jeff
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5/10/2002
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I had an irritating noise in my rear dif and several people on this site recommended simply having the fluid changed ($30). It worked somewhat, however I still hear it on occasion. Mine occurs from a stop when I accelerate turning slightly (like in parking lots). I advise you to change the fluid and see if it helps you
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bawango24
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5/17/2002
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My rearend went south 2 years ago. They rebuilt it and now its going again. I hear a whine from 30 MPH up. The center bearing was bad the 1st time and a clutch pack was damaged. I am really pissed when I see dodge's commercials towing huge trailers make them look like full size pickups. The truth is they can't tow for crap!
Does anybody know of a place (I am in New Jersey) were I can get a NON chrysler rearend to replace this peice of junk. I am thinking DANA 60.
JR
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Dave Mitchell
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5/20/2002
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If you have the LSD rear end, it will be a TrakLok rear end made by Dana... Dodge doesn't make the rear end any more than they make the New Venture Gear NV3500 transmission(which also comes in the GMC Sierra 1500.
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Knobbyman
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5/23/2002
09:27:44
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Actually that's just the locker..
The Dakotas have 2 differen't rear ends. 8 1/4" and 9 1/4".
The 9 1/4" is a much stronger rear end. You might want to check to see which you have. The 8" will look like a circle and the 9" will look like a stop sign if you look @ the cover.
I wouldn't waste the $$ on a DANA 60 a DANA 44 would be plenty strong unless your pulling a 5th wheel or something major. But .. heh.. if I could afford a DANA 60 I would put that in the back also.
'01 Graphite QC 4x4
4.7 3.55 LSD
4.5" Customized Suspension Lift
305x70x16 GoodYear MT/R's
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mdandl
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5/23/2002
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FYI new venture gear is part of dc. for a few years they had a partnership with gm but has since took back control
1997 Dakota Sport RC V6, Magenta, Dynomax Ultra Flow, K&N, APC Clear Corners, NR White Face Gauges, Mopar Boards, rails and Others to come
2000 Dakota Sport RC V6 Soon to be PLUM CRAZY
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millhouse
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8/06/2002
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WEll I had the same damn Problem and 6 people told me Tranny (see 5spd Tranny WTF post) So I spend 1500 FU@king Dollars on Tranny Centerforce Clutch and Install and What do I have the same mutha $%^&ing Whine I think Im going to buy a gun next and blow my head off
Miller
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4wDakota
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8/07/2002
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Hey millhouse, where is the noise coming from. Is it still from the tranny or is it in the rear end?
98 CC 4x4, 5.2 Auto 3.55LSD
3" Body Lift, 1" Torsion Bar Lift, 33" BFG A/T KO's
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millhouse
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8/07/2002
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Rear end I went to the dealer today and they said It had to be the rearend ( What the hell else could it be) Well the forman Felling bad for telling me it was a Transmission Problem also owns a dakota and put 3.92 Gears in his then he took them out ( did not like it) Any way He gave it to me For Free. Really helps me out seeing how broke I am now I just need to find a place to put it in for me now.
Miller
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4wDakota
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8/08/2002
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That really sucks. I would ask the tranny shop why it still makes the noise. Since its coming from the rear end ask them to explain waht the hell they fixed.
98 CC 4x4, 5.2 Auto 3.55LSD
3" Body Lift, 1" Torsion Bar Lift, 33" BFG A/T KO's
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nick
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8/15/2002
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i have a 99 4x4 and i had a god awful noise coming from the rear end and it intensified when i would turn. Thank god for the chrysler warranty i have. they did over 2 grand of work on my truck including replacing all the gears, bearings, and joints in the rear end and differential. not to mention a trans leak and upper control arms. they also said i would need my fluids in both differentials and transfer case replaced. the things is the fluid transfers alone cost me over $250. now is that a normal price or did i get raped? good luck with all your problems
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parts manager
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8/22/2002
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to everyone with rearend problems there are 2 axle assy out there one with a cast iron hsg and one with aluminum hsg shim specs are different for both even dana screwed up while building them gently remind dealer to go over specs as they rebuild theses rears even if you take it to another shop have them get specs from dana or dealer
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Ed
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8/26/2002
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I'm not encouraged by these messages. I just bought my first Dakota (2000, used, 53K miles).
A friend saw fluid leaking at the rear diff. and told me I better have the dealer repair the leak and replace the fluid. It goes to the shop this Wednesday.
I'm still under the 90-day warranty and purchased and extended 36K/3yr warranty.
Any other suggestions for me?
Ed
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jay
Dodge Dakota
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9/04/2002
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Had a passenger side rear moan coming from the rear end when I'd put a side load on it (turning left or right)..thought it was the wheel bearing. Took off the rear diff. cover. Pull the axle shaft out and examined the wheel bearing. All was well. Reassembled, put Pennzoil 75w-90 gear lube with Trans-X lube additive. Filled until it ran out the hole. NOISE ELIMINATED. If your diff is a little low on fluid (and I mean a little low), will make all sorts of noise.
2001 DAKOTA QUAD CAB, 4 X 4 9.25" 3.55 LSD
70,000 MILES
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2000 dak QC 3
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9/16/2002
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had the moaning noise in my Limited slip differential. took advise and switche dto the synthetic, no more noise.
also, switched from the lousy Goodyear LS 255-65-15's to Pirrelli Scorpion Z's. much better tire in every way and lots less $$$. 4 tires delivered at $396 from tirerack.com
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Mel
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10/22/2002
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Just bought a 2001 Dakota quad cab, w/50k.
I am also starting to hear a moaning noise coming from the rear when turning either direction, if you listen real carefully you can hear a slight moan even going straight at speads up to 30mph.
Any suggestions??,
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Chris
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10/24/2002
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I have the FSM for my truck and I remember reading that some noise was OK. I have had a slight whine since about 12k miles on my '00. I now have 74k and no problems.
Chris
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JAS
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11/14/2002
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I have a 99 ram quad cab w/9.25 rearend
guess what? rearend noise.....
rear brakes were shot new drums and everything
after67,000 miles... still have noise
took to dealer on monday, needs all new bearings
only cost me 665.00 what a deal.... if the ring and pinion gear are bad also they said thats anothe r 600.00
sound like the 9.25 is a real LEMON>
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big head boy
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11/14/2002
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i saw the replies and thought i'd add my two cents.
i have a brother who used to be a service manager at a local Chryco dealership. he has told me numerous stories of how the 8.25's and 9.25's are complete garbage, mainly becuse they arent set at the factory with the correct pinion angle.they keep shims at the shop for such occurances.obviously , the wrong pinion angle causes a great deal of stress on the u-joints and a bad u-joint just sends more problems on down the line.Cherokees are even worse off in that the axle offset isnt even correct(actually its an obscure recall if you know of someone who has a cherokee).
my father has an 80 model 1/2 ton with an 8.25, hes been plagued with rearend noise as long as he's had the truck. it never has busted though, but weve got an 8.75 just in case. in his truck he's replaced the u-joints twice and that seems to be just a temporary fix.
one thing i have noticed though is nearly all the dodge trucks built past 90 or so seem to have a real problem with oil/gear lube residue on the inspection cover. this leads me to believe that there must be some sorta serious ventilation problem with the differential itself. just a hunch, but if the pressure build up on the inside of the case is great enough to blow lube past the seal, whats to stop it from drying out all together? has anybody else noticed this? maybe a home-installed axle vent is in order.
also, is "New Venture" the same old company as "New Process"? if so, they have a huge chrysler background behind them. they started out in WW2 suppliying axles, trans, pto's, and such to various vehicles of the allied forces. the company was founded by chryslers brass to build tough,super-dependable running gears and afterwards evolved into a company making the same for semi's and other super duty applications. and their use was also in many GM, Ford, and AMC vehicles too.
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ken
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12/11/2002
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My 00 Quad 4x4 had the whine in the rear at about 32000 miles. The shop pulled the cover and the fluid was burnt. They pulled and cleaned everything and put back together. I've put 4000 miles on it since and havent noticed anything. They were pretty good about it, wanted me to bring it back before the warranty expired so they could check it again (just in case it needed to be replaced) but everything looked fine. I flat towed a CJ-5 from GA to Utah, dont know if thats what burnt the fluid or not.
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Chris
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12/12/2002
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I measuered the pinion angle on my truck once and found it to be set at only 1 degree or so... in the spring I am going to change that to 4-5 degrees... i hope this helps the whining and traction at the track.. my 60' times are horrible...
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swampdak
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12/13/2002
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My rearend is a trac-lok (ltd slip) and it started to whine when turning at low speed, I changed rear end fluid(plus limited slip additive) and it has worked fine for thousands of miles(90,000) I dont think the factory put the additive in but I cant prove it.
Y2K CC 4.7 AUTO 4X4 3.55 TRAC-LOK SLT K&N 16.35/82.41
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eugene
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12/25/2002
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My 98 Dak had bad journal bearings from a factory casting, Dadge replaced the rearend under warranty.
I thought it was the propeller bearing (mid-shaft bearing) on the driveline. On a whim I took it in instead of doing the work myself.
eugene
98 Dakota, all stock (for now)
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Northern Gary
Dodge Dakota
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2/05/2003
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rear diff plates are manufactured to close together, and when lubrication viscosity breaks down, due to where or heat, they come together and "rub". Ive actually had them lock up. The limited slip addidtive which dodge now uses is garbage, they said the old stuff stinks too bad, but it worked great. My advice is to change the rear end oil, get a quality limited slip add. and put a little extra in.
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UWGriz
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2/06/2003
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Dodge actually reccomends theirs LSD additive used along with Ford's. Strange but true.
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Josh
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6/02/2003
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Fiding out rearends in both Dakotas' and Rams are trash. My ring lost a tooth at 68,000 miles. If out of warrranty don't go to dealer you can get gears over the web. Total for parts with all bearings(install) kit was $531.00 included parts to go from limited slip to positive track. If you can't find them e-mail me and I'll send the link.
Also hunt around for someone who sets up drag racing rears. My labor was only $250.00
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7/07/2003
11:28:25
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Forgive me for posting what appears to be propaganda (an advertisement) but maybe the "text" information helps.
AMSOIL Slip-Lock Differential Additive
Effectively Eliminates Gear Housing Chatter
When making a turn, the outer wheels of a vehicle must travel faster than the inner wheels. It is up to the differential to act as a balance arm, establishing constant equilibrium of torques and forces between the left-hand and right-hand driven wheels. In standard (or open) differentials, power is directed to the wheel offering the least resistance. This works well when making a turn, but in a situation where one wheel is lifted off the ground, it causes the suspended wheel to turn while the other remains motionless.
Limited-slip (or positraction) and locking differentials are traction-increasing devices. Locking differentials transfer all available torque to both wheels. The teeth of the spider assembly engage with those on the locker clutch, causing both axle shafts to operate as one. Locking differentials don't allow one drive wheel to spin while the other remains stationary. Instead, they keep both wheels in drive mode, but unlock to permit different wheel speeds when turning. The engaging and disengaging of the teeth on automatic locking differentials often causes a banging and clunking sound. Manual locking differentials usually use an electric motor or vacuum diaphragm to engage the locker, reducing this noise.
Limited-slip differentials allow different wheel speeds when turning, but when one wheel loses traction, greater torque is transferred to the wheel offering more resistance. Limited-slip differentials make use of friction between clutch plates, as opposed to the meshing teeth employed by locking differentials. Transferring less torque per side, limited-slip differentials are generally smoother and quieter than locking differentials, but still sometimes "chatter" when transferring torque to the wheel with traction.
In some differential applications, a friction modifier additive is necessary to reduce chatter. AMSOIL Slip-Lock Differential Additive is formulated with advanced friction modifiers and is designed to eliminate gear-housing chatter in cars, trucks and SUVs equipped with limited-slip, positraction and locking differentials. It also reduces the banging and clunking associated with automatic locking differentials.
AMSOIL Slip-Lock Differential Additive is formulated for use with both synthetic and petroleum gear lubricants and safely replaces manufacturer recommended friction modifiers. Its convenient flip-top dispenser provides quick and easy application to the gear housing. One four-ounce bottle of Slip-Lock treats differential capacities of two to four quarts. It is not for use in automatic transmissions or other applications requiring ATF.
NOTE: AMSOIL Synthetic Gear Lubes DO NOT require the use of this additive. However, not all differentials respond the same and if chatter is noticed, the addition of AMSOIL Slip-Lock will eliminate it. For chattering differentials not running AMSOIL Gear Lube, this product is an excellent solution to the problem.
Steven Roark , Amsoil Dealer , Proud Sponsor of www.DodgeDakotas.com
AMSOIL Synthetic Motor Oils, Lubricants, Filtration, and Truck Care Products
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R/T Roj
Dodge Dakota
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7/09/2003
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My truck is a 2000 R/T, with K-Bell supercharger.
It has 30,000 miles and has started making the rearend moaning sound in turns. I frequently use the truck to trailer a jet ski on a not so steep boat ramp, which requires me to submerge the rearend. It never occured to me to change the oil until I heard the noise (I knew better, just a brain fart I guess). I have the following questions:
1. Could the H20 contamination cause the described noise?
2. If so, will regular changes with synthetic gear oil and friction modifier solve my problem, or could I have done costly damage?
3. Is there a differential cover available that will fit my truck(new or used) which would provide a more watertight seal than the stock one with the rubber plug?
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jdllizard
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7/09/2003
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My girlfriends Durango was making a whineing noise, at first thought to be the rearend but a mechanic checked it out and it turned out to be a wheel bearing. I would check those first especially if you hear it while turning. A new wheel bearing and she hasen't had a problem since.
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