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Geoff Ovens
Dodge Dakota
10/24/2001
14:44:29
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HAve tried everything i can think of
still get a slight engine whine especially noticable when the volume is low
Thanks
Geoff
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Knobbyman
GenIII
10/24/2001
15:00:17
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I used to get that in my last truck also.. Do you have a CD-Changer?
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Geoff Ovens
Dodge Dakota
10/24/2001
15:09:14
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No no cd changer just the head unit, thunderform and amp
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Knobbyman
GenIII
10/24/2001
15:13:52
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Well got me .. but I don't know much about speakers. Hopefully someone else will give some insite
'01 Graphite QC 4x4
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R/Truck
Dodge Dakota
10/24/2001
16:22:09
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Is your head unit the factory one?
Did the noise start when you installed the thunderform amp?
Which speaker has the whine?
Let me know and I can try and help you out.
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xplikt
Dodge Dakota
10/24/2001
16:23:32
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Check the ground, or even re-do it. Are you using a twisted pair of cables? Sheilding really doesn't matter as long as they are twisted. What amp are you using, it could have the gains turned up to high, not be grounded right, or is old/has a problem.
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xplikt
Dodge Dakota
10/24/2001
16:26:01
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twisted pair of cables = twisted pair cables
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R/Truck
Dodge Dakota
10/24/2001
16:34:40
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Twisted pair of cables help but it is usuelly the amp ground or gain setting. Try turning the gain all of the way down.
Then check to make sure that your ground is attached to un-painted metal using a star washer.
Connect your power wire directly to the + cable of the battery using 8 guage wire if you can.
If you still have whine then check your head unit connections. That pretty much covers it.
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Geoff Ovens
Dodge Dakota
10/24/2001
17:18:48
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yes twisted pair, Direct power to battery thick power and ground wires. Bare metal, connections checked. Tried adjusting the gains.
What else?
Geoff
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Dave_K
Dodge Dakota
10/25/2001
06:49:47
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1. Get a noise filter that you can put on the + side of the power cable (near engine).
2. Run your + and - wires on the opposite side of the truck that you run any and all speaker wires or RCA cables.
3. Check your connections.
4. If you are using an auto-power on switch from the radio, make sure the radio has the noise filter on it as well.
Radio shack sells them as well as most any other store that deals with electronics.
-Dave.
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xplikt
Dodge Dakota
10/25/2001
12:00:43
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"Run your + and - wires on the opposite side of the truck that you run any and all speaker wires or RCA cables."
If they are twisted pair, running the power and audio wires next to eachother doesn't hurt anything, it's just a larger lump!
You never told us what head unit you are using? Maybe you need one with more ouput or check the current head unit for any loose connections etc. Also, are you using burned CDs, from MP3s (is so, what is the ripped quality?) or are these full CDs?
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R/Truck
Dodge Dakota
10/25/2001
13:33:34
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Twisted RCA's help but they don't eliminate the noise after it reaches the AMP. If the gains are wrong or the noise is thru another source you will not notice a change with better RCAs. I would suggest running the power and RCA on opposite sides.
Do you have another component between the head unit and amp? Sometimes those little EQs can make a lot of noise.
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y22man
Dodge Dakota
10/25/2001
18:48:13
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Mine had the whine. It was the ground. I grounded it to the bolts holding the rear seats. Well guess they are not good quality metal. I ended up grounding it to the anther screw in the rear.
Jay
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Dave_K
Dodge Dakota
10/26/2001
08:47:40
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Just a thought...
if his head was poorly wired, and he powered the amp off the head (activation signal). would that cause a wine backwards?
if so, put a filter on your head unit also.
xplikt> Never used twisted pair before, nor heard of them (Except in networking and phone lines). so i didnt know thats what you were refering to.
personally i agree with y22man, always run them seperate. you have the room usually.
-Dave
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R/Truck
Dodge Dakota
10/26/2001
12:59:56
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Twisted wire is available with almost all brands of RCA cables now. They eliminate about 50dB of transfer signal induced noise that are associated with conventional signal cables. If you are using a quality head unit with 4 volts of ouput or more then you should be fine with conventional cables. But never run any type of power wire right next to the RCAs that is usuelly a source for noise.
The remote start wire has such a small signal it shouldn't cause any noise.
Your next step may be to shuck out a few dollers to have a pro take a look at your system.
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Dan H
Dodge Dakota
10/28/2001
07:18:42
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Try a ground loop isolator. It plugs inline with your RCA cables. They can be found at a stereo shop or even at Wal-Mart. It solved my engine whine.
Good luck.
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abcinv
Dodge Dakota
10/29/2001
15:55:31
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What kind of equipment are you using? This could prove to be vital information if you want some help with the engine noise.
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88dak
Dodge Dakota
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7/30/2002
03:16:52
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low battery voltage ck connections and batt fluid level
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J.D. Leddon
Dodge Dakota
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7/30/2002
05:32:05
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I have a whineing in my also. I have a Eclispe Head unit,Rockford Fosgate PA2 equaliser,Kicker ZR360 driving 2 Kicker Comp VRR 10's & A MTX driving mids & highs. I;ve replace the RCA'S & still have the same whining. Any advice would be helpful.
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Glenn
Dodge Dakota
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7/30/2002
13:45:21
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I have been noticing that in Dakotas that if you run you primary power wire inside the truck and down the side on the driver kick panel area that there is a group of wires that includes a high frequency ommunications wire and it will make the mids/high wine most of the time. All you need to do is move the wires away from the group. If that isn't the problem, follow the other posts here...they have posted excellent advice.
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JIM
Dodge Dakota
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7/30/2002
18:40:11
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I had my crossover for my JL componant set up under the driver kick panel and got wine. Dropped it down and went away. Make sure your power lead doesn't run too close to your ignition or alternator. Try spiral core spark plug wires too.
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