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Wally Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE
12/27/2007 20:28:19
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Message: Hi guys - I decided to fix my Dak's stereo and upgrade her a bit. I ordered some kicker 6" for the rear (they are blown), and I want to fix the volume control in the steering wheel.
The problem is that I can't find the part number for the volume control behind the steering wheel. I want to replace it all, since the old one failed and then I broke the mounting tab removing it - duh.
So, does someone know the PN? Or maybe have one to sell?
Thanks in advance for the help!
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CluCool Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE
12/27/2007 20:53:04
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Message: I would love to help ya man. I am looking around on the web for ya, but haven't found anything yet. Maybe someone else will have some more info for you. I am a trying though.
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Wally Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE
12/27/2007 20:55:15
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Message: thanks so much! I've been doing the same!!! I don't usually post much, because I search a lot first and don't go for the spoon-feed-me approach :-)
But this one is is a tough find!!!
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CluCool Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE
12/28/2007 06:53:24
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Message: I agree with you there, but sometimes things are obvious to some but not so to others so I guess we keep on looking till we find it and hopefully get some help. Have you tried calling up the stealership?
If you find out post up what it is so the next poor dude can find it easier and I can quit looking.
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Wally Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE
12/28/2007 08:44:49
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Message: I'll check them out today. The closest I came was finding an old post on DTO, but the guy is talking about an 05 Ram. I don't know if they use the same switches as my 99 Dak, and I also don't know which switch is which, because he lists them as one and two: (copy of posts)
Adding steering wheel audio controls can be easy...
This was done on a 2005 Dodge Ram 1500. I assume this will work for ANY 05 Ram, no matter the stereo. If you have an earlier ram, the instructions should basically be the same. The only thing that may be different is the cluster number.. Just be sure to check the service manual (see link below) for your specific year truck. You are looking for the MUX connector. On the 05 Ram's, the MUX is in Cluster C4/Slot 12 and it may not be the same for 02 -04's.
Parts needed -
5604293aa - Wiring Harness - about $25
04685728AB - Switch 1 - about $12
04685729AB - Switch 2 - about $15 (dont ask why)
24 ga speaker wire
Tools needed -
#20 Torx screwdriver (long shank).
Metric sockets
Wire strippers
Wire nuts
Razor Knife
Phillips head
Your favorite 6 pack & a sub
First, visit this thread: (it has some helpful info) - http://dodgetruckworld.tenmagazines...ic.ten?id=65853
Next, download the 2005 Dodge Ram service manual from hemitruckclub.com. You will need to print out the pages only for removing & installing the airbag, removing & installing the instrument cluster, and the pictures showing the configuration of the C4 Cluster behind the instrument panel.
1. DISCONNECT THE NEGATIVE TERMINAL AND WAIT 10 MINUTES!!!
2. Remove the upper and lower shroud from the steering column.
3. Remove the air bag. (BE SURE YOU ARE GOUNDED AND STORE THE AIRBAG FACE UP SOMEWHERE IT WONT BUILD A CHARGE. ALWAYS BE SURE YOU ARE GROUNDED WHEN HANDLING THE AIRBAG). If you successfully removed the airbag, have a BEER!
4. Remove the instrument cluster (use a towel to cover the exposed steering column so you do not scratch the plastic cover on the instrument panel)
5. Remove the cruise control buttons from each side.
6. Dremel out the locations for your switches on the back of the steering wheel. You CAN dremel with the steering wheel still on. Holes should be approximately 1" x 1.75".
7. On your new wiring harness, identify which wiring is for the cruise control and horn. Carefully remove them, AND SAVE, so you isolate the wiring for the radio switches. On my new harness, the wires for the radio controls were red/yellow or red/black (cant remember).
8. Before you put the new switches in the holes you just dremeled out, you will need to modify the plug on the switch. As you will see, the plug on the wiring harness will not fit the plug on the switch. Simply cut a little of the plastic on the switch's plug and then you will be able to slide the plug of the wiring harness into the plug of the switch. You will see what I mean.
9. Install the switches. The switches should be installed with the plug/connection point at the top right for the left switch, and with the plug/conection point at the top left for the right switch. VERY IMPORTANT OTHERWISE YOUR SWITCHES WILL BE UPSIDE DOWN).
10. Install the wiring harness onto the switches and reinstall the cruise control switches.
11. Plug the wiring harness into the far right plug on the top of the clockspring. When you remove the airbag, you will see there is a plug missing a wire at the top of the clockspring. This is for the steering wheel contols.
12. With the cruise control wiring you salvaged from your new wiring harness, CAREFULLY remove the wiring from the plastic plug. You need to make sure you salvage the wiring AND "pin" that is inside the plastic plug. You will need to salvage (3) of these and MAKE SURE YOU LEAVE ENOUGH WIRE TO MAKE A SPLICE.
13. At the bottom of the clockspring (outside of the steering wheel), are 2 plugs. One is yellow - This is your airbag plug. The other one should be white - This is the one you want. You will see there are (2) spaces available to fill the plug. On the top/bottom of the plug, there is a tab you need to flip up. Insert the "pin" end of the wiring you salvaged & make sure it is put in the right way. Once you have both spaces filled, flip the tab back down to lock them into place and insert the plug back into the clockspring.
14. Locate the Cluster C4 plug behind the instrument panel. You will see that Slot #12 (MUX connector) is empty. On the C4 plug you will see a white rectangular bar. With your razor knife, carefully raise the white rectangle up (it wont come out all the way). Insert the 3rd salvaged "pin" into Slot 12. Once "pin" is fully seated, press on the white rectangle to secure the pin.
15. One of the wires from Step 13 is a ground and the other needs to be routed to Slot #12 in the C4 cluster behind the instrument panel (which you did is Step 14). Which is which you ask? Trial and error. Run the 24 ga speaker wire for the ground and the connection from the bottom of the clockspring to Slot 12 of the C4 cluster. BEFORE YOU PROCEED WITH TRIAL AND ERROR (i.e. STARTING THE TRUCK), PLUG IN ALL PLUGS ON YOUR INSTRUMENT CLUSTER.
16. If you got it right the first time, then good guess. If not, just reverse the wiring.
17. Button everything back up per the service manual and you are in business. Enjoy.
This should only take you few hours if you have the right tools. Just be PATIENT and extremely careful when removing, handling, storing, and reinstalling the airbag.
Pfft.. And the Dodge service/parts dept said it couldnt be done!
Im 99.9% certain I got everthing included above. PM or reply with any questions.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 7:04 pm Post subject: Reply with quote
56042934aa - Wiring Harness - about $25
i forgot to add the 4 before aa.
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There are 3 types of people in this world. Those who can count and those who cannot.
2005 RAM HEMI 1500 4X4 SLT
THUNDER ROAD
Mineral Grey
Black Powder Coat UWS
Black Powder Coat Rails
Black Powder Coat Westin Steps
20" Chrome Wheels
Black Leather
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Wally Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE
12/28/2007 09:09:27
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Message: ok - I think I hit paydirt. I need to join the site to view all of the pictures, but it looks the same as our Daks. Tons of info in this post to retrofit the controls, and the part numbers that I need to fix mine! Have a look:
http://www.dodgetalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79963&page=1&pp=20
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