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Pugs
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I've got an '02 with the factory Infinity sound system in it. I got a new head unit and a 4-channel amp that I wanna run off the deck. What I'm wondering is how to connect the speaker wire that I run from the amp to the existing speaker wire that runs to the speakers from the factory Infinity amp located in the passenger side kick panel. All I see is a bunch of various coloured wires with connectors that go into the amp and don't know which ones run where.
SO...can anyone help me and let me know which wires run where from the factory Infinity amp so I can connect them to the amp that I'm putting in? (are the tweeters run in the same line as the front 6.5's)
Thanks.....Pugs
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BigBlueQC
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5/27/2004
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Funny you should ask this as I jsut finished wiring two amps to new speakers with the same setup you have, but I kept the factory head unit.
1st question, are you replacing the speakers? It would be best if you did.
2nd, under the passenger side front kick panel, near the floor, is where the factory amp is. Pull up the plastic floor trim piece along the door edge(justs pulls up, no screws) and then pull the kick panel off(pull it towards the rear while you are facing the frt of the truck) again, there are no screws. there you will see the amp.
There are two plugs into the bottom, you will need to unplug both if you don't want that amp in use anymore. One of the plugs has wires that are white w/blk and red stripes, tan w/purple and blue or black striped, green w/purple and blue stipes, and green with some other colors. I have a piece of paper at home that I can tell you exact colors of rear/frt positive/negative that you can tap into. Reply here with your e-mail address and I will send you the actual color codes.
I mounted amps under the seats and ran the speaker and RCA leads along the passenger side, and kept the power wire for the amps on the drivers side. You should never run alltogether, as I have been told.
The factory tweeters are wired directly to the factory amp. If you install new components you won't need to worry about those wires as the new components will have a crossover that comes with the set.
If you pull of each door panel and pull the factory speaker, you will see the colors of wires I mentioned above.
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matdie
Dodge Dakota
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5/27/2004
23:57:55
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Pugs:
Try this site for wiring diagrams:
http://www.wjjeeps.com/audiowire.htm
It's titled Jeeps, but infinity's are common to both makes.
BigBlueQC
I am planning on doing the same as you. I want to keep the stock head unit and steering wheel controls, but replace the amp and speakers. I was thinking of going with a single Hifonics Zeus (55W per) and infinity Reference/Kappas
Can you tell me which setup you went with?
Did you use line converters?
How does it sound with the line converters?
Thanks!!
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Pugs
Dodge Dakota
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5/28/2004
16:22:56
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Thanks for the replies guys.
I installed yesterday with a buddy that used to install at a dealer. I found the simplest little trick to find which speakers are connected to which wires. Just take a AA battery and connect two wires to the end, then touch the ends to the ends of the cut wires from the factory amp. When you've found the two wires for a speaker, it will make a little rustling noise out of the speaker so you now know which line to connect to speaker wire running to the amp. (Also, with the factory speaker set up, the tweeter is run in line with the door speaker so you only need to run one set of wires, not two)
What I did was kept the factory speakers (they sound okay actually) cause they were perfectly fine. Once they blow, if they do, then i'll get new ones. I'v used a 4 channel amp to power them and I've crossed them over so they don't get the bass pounding beats that make them rattle. Then I have a 2 channel amp that I run mono to power 2 10" subs for the low beats. Sounds good with the new head unit.
For you guys that want to keep the head unit, I'd suggest getting an aftermarket because it's better to run RCA pre-outs to the amp then the speaker wire itself.
Later
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casedeez
Dodge Dakota
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5/28/2004
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It should make a "rustling" sound either way you hook it up. The proper way to do this is as he described, but look for when the woofer extracts. If it pushes in as opposed to out, then the wires are hooked up reverse.
Another thing you might add is that you are using the "stock" speakers when finidng which is pos or neg. What your looking for is which wire from the HU or amp is pos and neg without tracing them back to the sourse. Just color match to the wires you cut... if that makes sense.
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Frebius
Dodge Dakota
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5/30/2004
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Just kind of curious why you want to run an amp to your factory speakers? They call it a Infinity sound system but the speakers are still very very cheap and low quality!!!!!
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Pugs
Dodge Dakota
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5/30/2004
19:53:19
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The factory speakers are comparable with the aftermarket ones i had in my old car (Kenwood 6x9's and Phoenex Gold 4x6's). The addition of the tweeters in the Dakota makes a huge difference. It may sound better with aftermarket but I think it sounds good now...maybe cause I have a good deck with a clean output.???
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casedeez
Dodge Dakota
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5/30/2004
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Generally speaking most decks good or not dont put out the rated wattage, much the same as amps. I would bet if you were to amplify your tweets or mids or both you would find that it would help a whole lot mroe. Dpending of course if its done properly
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frebius
Dodge Dakota
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6/03/2004
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If you think that the factory infinity stereo's sound good I feel sorry for you.
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Pugs
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6/03/2004
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I think the factory Infinity Stereo is CRAP! That's why I put in an aftermarket one. The factory speakers are not bad though (but not as good as a decent aftermarket pair)
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Justi
Dodge Dakota
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6/04/2004
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"If you think that the factory infinity stereo's sound good I feel sorry for you."
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Actually you shouldn't feel sorry for him, you should be jealous of him. By him liking it he has a system that he's very pleased with and spent considerably less money than you! To each his own. Go with what you personally like and don't get caught up in what other people like. The Jones' always have more money than you and you'll be in the poorhouse trying to keep up. :)
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casedeez
Dodge Dakota
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6/04/2004
19:16:31
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OOOOOHHHH well put. My thoughts exactly.
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frebius
Dodge Dakota
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6/05/2004
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Or Justi you could do some research before you open your mouth. In fact I spent considerably less than any one with the factory infinity setup. In 99(the year of my truck) the infinity package was a $660 add on. Considering I paid 150 for my Sony Head Unit. A 100 for my Alpine Amp and 130 for my Type R components I think that makes me well about 280 dollars richer. Think before you talk!
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casedeez
Dodge Dakota
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6/05/2004
02:58:26
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Well in my opinion you spent way too damn much on your sony deck. Your alpine amp for all we would know since you didnt specify the model could be fromm 20 years ago. As far as the alpine components or the alpine mids or highs anyone could have bought those on clearance at some aftermarket "closeout" sale.
Next to this comment you have a 99 blah blah who gives a flying monkey poo my dear pugs has a 02 which infinity decided to change a couple things. On top of that Pugs from all you know bought the truck used which means he didnt pay your lame "$660" price for his infinity system. In fact you dont even know if the truck was given to him. So we can go round and round speculating or you can just admit your a tool that doesnt know what he's talking about. On a side note cant even list model numbers to prove you got something better than infinity stock.
I suggest you crawl back to your moms dog house with your tail between your legs before you try and spout your elementary mouth off here. Pugs and Justi are my homies so dont try spittin your sh!t here.
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frebius
Dodge Dakota
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6/05/2004
11:13:48
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Well after your last sentence, I don’t even feel the need to defend myself because I see just how much intelligence you really have. Since you were the one that brought up elementary educations. I don’t know about you but I learned in elementary school that “dont” was a thing called a conjunction and it needed a comma “don’t” but just an FYI.
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“Pugs and Justi are my homies so dont try spittin your sh!t here.”
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While we are on the topic let’s talk about jumping to conclusions. For all you know I am talking about the Sony CDX-M9905X
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“Well in my opinion you spent way too damn much on your Sony deck.”
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For your clarification here are the model numbers
SPR-176A
Alpine MRV-T320
Sony CDX-F5700
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casedeez
Dodge Dakota
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6/05/2004
16:32:53
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Well I see you cant have fun. Im writing in a forum, not a formal document. I see no need to make grammar corrections on a forum. Thats a personal preference just as audio is. If you paid $150 for the Sony CDX-M9905X you got something that was stolen. If that were the case, well I wont state my opinion.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=32819&item=5702576976&rd=1
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=39733&item=5702564413&rd=1
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=39753&item=5702139291&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW
Your really not that special based on the prices you spent. Since I brought up opinion, you paid too much for your deck. Sony is not the best HU for the 100-200 price. IMHO you could have spent your money on something better, something with higher qaulity.
Something like this..
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=39755&item=5701880411&rd=1
Like noted before, to each is own.
Lastly, you didnt seem to address the fact that pugs might not have spent that "660". If you want to argue then address everything otherwise dont try and argue.
In any case it still boils down to what made who happy and if you are happy with what you have then good. If pugs has gotten what makes him happy, good for him.
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frebius
Dodge Dakota
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6/05/2004
18:53:50
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Wow your personal preference is to sound ignorant.
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frebius
Dodge Dakota
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6/05/2004
18:58:02
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And as far as your comment about me being a thief. I worked for Quality Auto Sound they give good discounts. Guess you should jump to conclusions. HUH
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casedeez
Dodge Dakota
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6/05/2004
19:22:55
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Well, at least you have some valid points, ya know like the one about my personal preferance to sound ignorant. Quite frankly your an idiot. For one i didnt say anything about you being a theif. If you would read and take notice on what your reading maybe you wouldnt be sound so naive. This is the last reply Im going to make to you on this subject. I like to argue and we were, the problem is you dont know how to argue. The only thing you can do is attack me with naive comments like "Wow your personal preference is to sound ignorant." Seems petty to me, but hey, thats my opinion.
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Pugs
Dodge Dakota
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6/06/2004
18:34:09
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You guys kill me!! This is funny lol!!
K, I did buy my truck used but I have the original invoice from the orginal owner who purchased in '02. The Infinity upgrade in my truck was an extra $335 (Canadian $$). Not as much as the older versions I guess. I've had no problems running the stock Infinity speakers off of my amp that puts 50Wx4 RMS power out. It's clean, loud, and no distortions. I have them crossed over at about 120-130 (the tweeters have their own crossovers built in as they are run in line with the front door speakers). I have 2 10's catching the low frequencies, so altogether it sounds fantastic (better then my old car with all aftermarket speakers).
So argue as you want, different components work well (if matched properly) or not so well with different amps.
Later
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frebius
Dodge Dakota
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6/06/2004
18:44:58
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Well you can state it all out simple like that, or we could argue. The latter gave me something to do at work. HAHA
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