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Jimmy9190 Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE
6/07/2007 21:41:37
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Subject: RE: 1993 dodge dakota radio problem IP: Logged
Message: Tessa,
You may have internal damage in the radio, possibly from the vibrations from driving on the dirt roads. You can remove the radio and verify there is voltage present at the constant and switched accessory wires in the plugs at the back of the radio. Use a test light or a volt meter. The constant wire should be pink and the accessory wire should be red with a white stripe. If there is voltage at these connections, you can take the radio to a good car audio shop and get it bench-tested to verify if the radio is bad. It might be less expensive to just go with an aftermarket unit. If there is no voltage on either power wire for the radio, check the fuses.
Hope this helps.
Jimmy
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Tessa Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE
6/12/2007 23:32:02
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Message: I thought since the bass and treble were blinking that the fuse was probably good, or else there would be no lights blinking. When I turn on my headlights the on/off button still lights up too. I'm not sure where there is a good audio place anywhere within 70 miles of here, but I guess that it's time to start looking after I try your suggestion about verification of the voltage. Thank you for your help.
Tessa
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Jimmy9190 Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE
6/13/2007 21:46:20
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Message: The power button lights up when the headlights are turned on because the illumination circuit of the radio is independent of the power circuit. Even with a working radio, if it is turned off the lights in it will still receive voltage and light up when the parking lights or headlights are on.
This sounds very much like an internal problem inside the radio. I saw another post here not long ago with this exact same problem-blinking bass & treble lights and no output from the radio. I don't know if that guy ever got his radio fixed. If you have voltage at the 2 power connections behind the radio, it probably is a bad radio. A good repair shop can fix it, hopefully for a flat rate fee rather than an hourly rate. Anyway, you can at least save the cost of removal and reinstallation. A car audio shop where I used to work has one of the best repair techs I have ever known, but you'd have to ship the radio to Florida...
Let us know how it turns out. Good luck with it.
Jimmy
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DT Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE
7/22/2007 21:06:15
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Message: I hate to throw a monkey wrench into this subject, but I to am having the same problems with my 92 Dakota. However, I changed to an aftermarket radio years ago. It was only in the last couple of years that I began having the same issues. The radio will work for several months, sometimes up to a year. Then I will come out and start the truck one day and all of the programming will have been erased. Then sometimes the radio will not come on at all. This has happened more than once. I'm beginning to think it may be in the truck itself since all of you are having the same problems with factory radios. Maybe there is a problem in the fuse panel or wiring harness supplying power to the radio. Somebody give me some feedback, I hate to buy a new radio to find out it is an electrical problem in the truck.
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If Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE
7/23/2007 02:37:55
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Message: If you are losing all of you programming then it is a shot somewhere. You are probably losing a constant HOT somewhere.
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DT Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE
7/23/2007 22:45:37
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Message: That's what I'm thinking. I guess I will start at most unlikely place and trouble shoot from there.
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Ryan_93DakV6 Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE
9/04/2007 22:06:13
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Message: Same truck, same problem. I have the premium factory sound system. Here are a few more pieces to the puzzle from my experience. I hope this might be useful to someone interested and knowledgeable.
First, as the original poster described, the radio will occasionally put out sound, but only briefly and at low volume. I've seen similar behavior in guitar amps, both when caps go bad and when the solder connections melt. Could be that bad cap mentioned previously.
During the times the radio does briefly output sound, the volume control seems to crank the gain, but the volume itself remains low and unchanged. After 20sec or so, the radio quits outputting sound altogether and can't be restarted until the next trip if I'm lucky. It seems to me that the gain but no volume control indicates a bad power amp.
I pulled the head out and opened it up. Nothing looks visually bad on the inside of the head unit, and nothing feels loose. The pots look clean visually and on the multimeter, and have solid connections.
I found the amp on the passenger's side , but it's impossible to get to without removing the entire dash assembly. I bought the carstereohelp.com thing, and it was worthless. All it showed was how to remove the head unit and pop in a spacer plate and harness for a new deck.
If I wasn't a broke college student, I would of course just replace the head and bypass the amp.
Questions:
Has anyone found an easy way to get the amp out? Also, does anyone have the pinouts for the '93 factory head/amp? The capacitor mentioned in a previous post is a small disk cap; is that correct, and how do you check it?
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C. Ryan Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE
1/13/2008 22:35:31
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Message: Just wondering if anybody has figured out how to get the radio to work again. I have the same problem with the blinking bass and treble lights with my 2001 Dakota. I talked to the dealership, and unhooked the battery for 5 minutes as they suggested. No help. Anyone please...
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revad1 Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE
2/11/2008 19:19:07
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Message: I have a similar problem with my 01 Dakota..at first I found that if I switched off the ignition it would come back on again. Had power to some lights on the deck but nothing on the face plate. Then discovered that if I wiggled the key in the ignition while truck is running the radio will come back on.. This is one of a few electrical gremlins I am experiencing.
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Andrew Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE
3/01/2008 13:50:45
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Message: I have an 01 Dakota with a similar problem. During cold weather
the stereo and blinkers do not function until the truck is warmed
up. Sometimes i can turn on my turn signals and they work and
then my stereo comes on. Any suggestions? it drives me crazy.
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Jimmy9190 Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE
3/01/2008 18:31:44
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Message: That sounds like a problem with the internals on the central timer module. You really need to have it scanned at the dealer to tell for sure if it's the CTM. Could also be the ignition switch. Next time it happens try wiggling the key or turning it of & on rapidly several times.
Jimmy
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revad1 Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE
3/01/2008 22:08:22
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Message: thanks for the thoughts Jimmy, I am heading in the the dealer for a shift interlock safety recall and maybe if they are in there they can check the CTM. by wiggling the key while running it seems to bring it back on. Also have weird intermittent door locks.. driver door will only lock manually on the inside but not unlock and it now goes up to lock ?? The passenger one will lock normal but not unlock. the remote works when it wants too.. I will have to learn some about what the CTM controls, thanks !
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Jimmy9190 Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE
3/01/2008 22:41:00
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Message: Here's a link to a good post on the CTM:
http://www.dodgedakota.net/boards/gen/17832.html
One thing you can do if you need a new ignition switch is not to have a bunch of keys and other stuff on your key ring. The extra weight is not good for the switch.
Dealer can scan the CTM but may charge you for it. If yours is bad, I heard you can use one from a junk yard a lot cheaper than dealer parts but the one from the junk yard has to be from a truck with the same options as yours. Then you might have to go back to the dealer again so they can program the new one to your truck. Dealer might know more about that.
The door locks problem sounds very strange. When the driver door lock is in the up position the door is actually locked and won't open? The passenger side won't unlock..Both problems sound like problems with the actuators or maybe the linkage from the actuator assembly to the lock mechanism itself. Remove the door panel and moisture barrier and check the assemblies for broken parts or parts that came loose. There are little plastic guides that are snapped into the door itself and plastic retainer pieces that are part of the door lock /connecting rod mechanism and it sounds like you have broken pieces in both doors. If you wind up having to replace actuators, you can do it with aftermarket ones for about $20 to $30 per door. I have heard the dealer can not sell the OE actuator by itself, it comes as a whole door lock and latch assembly. Check it out and if any more questions, post here and I will try to help.
The remote not working is a pretty typical problem. 7 years is a good long time for a remote to be in operation. You can try a new battery and cleaning the battery contacts in the remote with a pencil eraser or a small flat blade screwdriver. Blow the dust and dirt out of the innards on the remote circuit board. If that doesn't work, a new remote plus programming it to the keyless entry in your truck could cost more than just going with an aftermarket keyless. You can get that for anywhere from $80 to maybe $120 installed, depending on where you live, but you need to get the locks working correctly first. A good car audio-alarm shop would probably be able to diagnose and repair the lock problems for you, but keep in mind that will cost more. If you end up with aftermarket keyless, make sure the shop that does it knows what they are doing and has a good reputation. The OE power lock system with OE keyless requires the use of relays and resistors to interface and the installer needs to know what he is doing or else...Also if you do go aftermarket, DEI products work best. Viper, Sidewinder, Python, they are all DEI. The Viper is best and will last forever if properly installed.
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revad1 Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE
3/01/2008 23:34:00
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Message: wow, thanks again ! I think I will first try and get the dealer to check for CTM errors and then see if my parts manager buddy can get me one cheap or I will resort to the bone yard. Will most years work as long as similarly equipped ? I am going in for the recall so maybe I will be able to finagle a bit of a deal. I own a m/c dealership in Seattle.. (yes these actually do sell quite well here regardless of the rain) I have a few friends there plus I have a pretty good understanding of how to treat techs right..so maybe just maybe I can get it all taken care of in one visit !! I will call and get the CTM coming if I can get a deal..if not I'll source one and bring it with me.. door lock wise the driver door only locks and sometimes it will change directions of functionality ! Passenger also only locks but in normal direction...does the CTM have any function here ? Also intermittent windshield wipers really are !! I have them come on by them selfs when driving.. had to pull over and turn off truck..didn't try to wiggle ignition that time. I do and have dangled about 5 or so keys most of it's life. Funny thing is about the time I moved into a house with an auto garage door opener that I programed to the truck is when I started having issues (with the truck)
thanks again ! BTW the truck has under 60,000
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Jimmy9190 Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE
3/02/2008 00:25:54
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Message: As far as I know, the CTMs are interchangeable between the same year models and options, i.e. you need a CTM from a truck with OE keyless to match yours with OE keyless. I've never switched one out but looked into it when my wipers were not working right. If your parts buddy can get the part cheaper, may just be best to do that. Bone yard electrical parts can be kind of iffy. No sense in throwing good money after bad. I'd let the dealer scan the CTM before ordering a new one. The radio, wipers and blinkers not working right sure sounds like it could be the CTM but let the dealer scan it to be sure. There is a separate module for the wipers and it's possible the flasher unit and/or the combination switch could be bad causing the blinkers not to work. The radio could have an internal problem. The wipers coming on by themselves could be a bad wiper motor-an easy way to tell if it's having a problem is if the wipers don't park correctly--they should return to the correct position on the windshield when you turn them off. All those components going bad at the same time is probably not very likely, but you never know. Another possibility is the entire set of problems except the door locks could be the result of a bad ignition switch or the igintion switch module. The DRB scan tool the dealer will use will tell what's wrong.
The door locks definitely sounds like a physical problem with the lock mechanisms themselves. The CTM cannot alter the physical operation of the lock assembly. That is to say, the CTM cannot cause the door to remain locked when the lock plunger is in the up position. That's a problem in the door itself. 5 keys is not that many keys, but again anything is possible. The ignition switch in your and my 01 Dakota has 3 ignition and 2 accessory outputs, so a bad ignition switch is also a definite possibility in your case. It could also be that when you programmed the garage opener, because the programming had been the same for so long prior that it caused some wacky software error in the CTM programming which made some of the accessory outputs not work right. The ignition switch and/or module should be cheaper than a new CTM. If any more questions, post here and I will help you if I can.
Jimmy
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George C Palm Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE
6/08/2008 13:23:53
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Message: My stock AM-FM-CD unit just started switching between AM and FM intermittently with no obvious clues as to why. Anybody heard of this one?
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Jimmy9190 Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE
6/08/2008 13:48:40
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Message: That sounds almost certainly like an internal problem with the radio or it might be the operation of the am-fm button itself. Any good car audio shop should be able to bench test it and repair it for you.
Jimmy
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Kyle Heinecke Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE
2/26/2009 16:12:24
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Message: i left a post earlier about my radio having the same problem. i went to a junk yard and started peeking in windows. i pulled one out of a dodge van unknown year but the switch has a different feel to it. it has one definate click instead of 2 little clicks. but it appears that if it looks like the same radio it is the same thing. all wiring was the same.
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tim Quick Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE
11/02/2009 09:48:37
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Message: I Have A 1993 Dodge Dakota And The Radio Shows All 8's Across The Face. Nothing Changes When You Turn On And Off The Switch. Check All Fuses. What Else Can I Do?
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Jimmy9190 Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE
11/02/2009 19:21:07
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Message: The radio probably has an internal problem. A good car audio shop can fix it for you but it may be cheaper and more reliable just to replace it with a good quality aftermarket unit. It's not difficult to replace the radio in a 93 Dakota, but sometimes you can find free installation deals at Best Buy.
Jimmy
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