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v8s dominate
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1/23/2004
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There is a dakota on gsmotorsports.com owned by a guy named scott that is running 11.2's without nitrous, and it has 612 RWHP that is about 720 total hp. Can your 4 banger do that?????
http://www.gsmotorsports.com/scott_quaranta.htm Cut and paste this!!
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Outlaw
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1/23/2004
23:21:28
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Ric u forced induction can also be used on big cube engines. Remember I said each motor built to the max. This is why most pro dragracers use blown v8s. theres just more power in them. I used to street race in Washington and there wasnt a single 4 that could beat my 75 firebird. I had fully decked out 455. the rest of the car didnt look like much so the competition just underestimated me. And emissions are no excuse because there is no state inspection here. My daytona was fun too. but it was cheaper to sell the car and buy this 1 and hot rod it.
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Outlaw
Dodge Dakota
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1/23/2004
23:28:30
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Question for ya. what motor do top fuel dragsters use? A v8. Dont you think if they could get the same performance out of turbo4 they would use those instead.
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IntenseDak39
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1/23/2004
23:42:13
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they use V8 because "THERE IS NO REPLACEMENT FOR DISPLACEMENT!!"
thats why i put John Force in there... not because its on the street.
Those 1100 hp surpas arent pumping 1100 hp on pump gas and streetable boost... guarantee those things didnt cost less than $50K to build...
i would rather use nitrous.. less money and more torque... plus steetable qualities.
Dont know if yall ever read Hot Rod, but they had a turbocharged big block a while back... infact it was a quad set up. After tuning they got over 3000 hp. Also, from time to time i glance at the Phast Phords magazine... lots of streetable turbocharged V8 that would put down some whoopass on any supra... now supras are capable, but limited.
Ric,
you are getting very side tracked.. still. Once again, we were all giving you helpful suggestions until this "my four cylinder is better than any other motor in the whole frocking world" attitude spurted. I even told you of some links to use and helped you determine the TII 2.5 block wont bolt in a genII Dakota.
I am just trying to say, stop the trash talking because you still dont have a genII dakota with a "450 hp" four popper and there are plenty of faster trucks out there, already.
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dakfour
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1/24/2004
09:18:55
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I have a dakota turbo now!!!I installed a couple months ago. runs with 11.76 psi of pressure and delivery to me 184 rwhp. or 230hp in the engine without compromises the engineīs dirability...not bad for a 4 banger...I hurted some v6s egoes and v8s. I tyried to put some pics of it but I didnīt get it . I donīt know how to do it...If someone help me Iīll show you guys my 4 banger turbo dak!!!
Dak 1999 2.5l 4X2 jet performance stage 1
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IntenseDak39
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1/24/2004
09:53:40
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email me the pix and i'll post em up for ya!
its cool you were able to do it... i just dont like one thing Ric had to put on the table, though.
this was my favorite:
"Dakota RT can kiss my ass, cause a i4 will run circles around one, no matter what mods it has."
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IntenseDak39
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1/24/2004
09:54:09
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oh..
intensedak39@sbcglobal.net
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Ric
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1/24/2004
12:49:56
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11.2 with a 720hp V8?!?! hahahaha HAHAHAHA, wait let me laugh again.. HAHAHAHAHAHA. To run low 11s in a 3800lb car requires around 450 crank hp. Yes a 4banger can do that because the current FWD turbo dodges running low 10s have less then 500 crank hp. Yes professional drag racers use big block V8s, thats how u run 5sec 1/4mi times. BUT, we are not professional drag racers, we drive our cars everyday. There is no such thing as a 5sec daily driver street car, so why use the same engine that isnt built for that purpose? The fastest daily driven street cars in the USA are small displacement forced induction engines. Why? Because they are reliable and practical for everyday use. A 500hp carburated V8 is not practical for everyday use, or affordable (gas usage). Force inducing a large displacement engine for everyday use is unreliable also, youll be rebuilding it every 10-15k miles, not to mention the $10k in engine upgrade just to make it handle the forced induction.
Bigger isnt better when it comes to street cars. Why is the dodge SRT4 the fastest car in the world under 20k? I thought there was no replacement for displacement, but yet a bone stock dodge SRT4 is almost 2 seconds faster in the 1/4mi then a bone stock dodge dakota R/T and those HEMI pickups. I thought hemi's were fast, those pickups run 16sec time slips in the 1/4mi. A SRT4 makes around 230fwhp on average and anywhere from 13.9 to 14.1 in factory showroom bone stock form.
I thought i was helping you guys out by finding out if a very good, very fast, and very cheap engine fits in your pickups. An engine in almost bone stock form can propel your dakotas into the 13sec 1/4mi range with very little money invested at all, faster then 90% of the trucks on this message board. Instead all you guys do is tell me that john force runs a v8 and that it cant run 4sec 1/4mi times. No crap it cant run 4s, but if you currently have a i4 or v6 in your dak, swapping over to a turboII engine would be a very smart thing to do, it can go faster then anything u can do to your current engine, and also help u beat most v8 cars, trucks on the road, not to mention cost around $1500 total to do for a really nice setup.
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IntenseDak39
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1/24/2004
14:52:21
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"Yes a 4banger can do that because the current FWD turbo dodges running low 10s have less then 500 crank hp"
ummm.... those FWD dodges doing that probably weigh 2000 lbs... because stock they weigh around 2300-2500 and those running those times at the track are on diets, without a doubt.
"An engine in almost bone stock form can propel your dakotas into the 13sec 1/4mi range with very little money invested at all, faster then 90% of the trucks on this message board"
stock T2 motor was 174 hp and 200ish torque... that will not move a 3800lb truck more than 16 seconds in a 1/4 mile. The hard-to-find Lotus powered DOHC T4 was only 224 hp and not much more torque. That might get you low 15s in a 3800 truck. Now i know you stay an almost bone stock.. almost bone stock is close enough for me to give you factory specs.
In my shelby charger, i ran a list of mods:
27lb injectors
13# boost
MP controller
2.5" exhaust
no cat
no muffler
2.2 bored .040 over
475 cam
JE racing lifters
JE racing lash adjusters
stronger springs (dont remember specs)
S&B 6x9 filter
homemade cold air box
all that in a 2100 lb car got me high 12s.
believe it or not, your little calculators you got off the internet are not acurate at all... a 720 hp 3800# car is gonna be a lot faster than a 720 hp 3800# truck, and i hope i dont need to explain why.
"I thought i was helping you guys out by finding out if a very good, very fast, and very cheap engine fits in your pickups"
you have yet to help anybody out... infact, you were asking for the help
"but if you currently have a i4 or v6 in your dak, swapping over to a turboII engine would be a very smart thing to do, it can go faster then anything u can do to your current engine"
that was not your approach earlier... before it was "my four cylinder will be anything anybody can ever do to their R/T"
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v8s dominate
Dodge Dakota
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1/24/2004
15:25:45
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Who said 720 hp in a 3800 car? the extended cab R/T the motor is in, weighs in at around 4300#, and is a truck!!! You will never, and I repeat NEVER be able to put your turbo in tour 4 popper. You're either not smart enough, too lazy, or dont have the cash flow. If you ever do, I will give you an appology, but By the time you do, my v8 will be kicking your ass, and It wont matter. Dont be such a retard, your truck is going to be one of those crap ass beaters that are redneck driven, that the owners think are bad ass, but really they are just BAD. You do realize that everyone will laugh at you for driving a dak that sounds like an import with a fart can right? Grow some balls, and buy a v8.
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Ric
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1/24/2004
16:55:47
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Grow balls and install a v8, hahaa. Why not be ORIGINAL and install a turbo 4cly dodge motor.
I define an almost stock turbo dodge motor as a turbo II 2.5 with a stock garrett T3 turbo, front mounted intercooler, +20 or +40 injectors, and a remapped computer. Stock head, intake manifold, stock cam (stock cam is faster then any regrind, thats a proven fact), and an open 3in downpipe. Run that at 20psi in your lightened 2nd gen dak with some good DRs or slicks, and theres your 13sec pass, all day long.
Who cares what it sounds like. Are you trying to make up for small body parts with the sound of an engine?
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IntenseDak39
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1/24/2004
17:37:07
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bigger turbo
bigger injectors
performance computer
aftermarket intercooler
aftermarket exhaust
upgrading from stock boost
you consider all that "near stock"???
damn dood... share the dope!
so stock cam, pistons and rods is all it seems to be considered "near stock"
in that case, i did a 13.52 with a "near stock" V6 dakota.
I have seen many "near stock" R/T's go 11s and 12s.
Duner must have a "near stock" 4.7 that goes 11s (maybe 12s)
i think me putting a big block in a genIII dakota is just as unique as you putting a turbo on a four cylinder dak... oh wait... you havent!!
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v8s dominate
Dodge Dakota
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1/24/2004
21:06:37
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I'm done arguing with this retard, It is a waste of my time. Do I have small body parts? I think its pretty big, I must be pretty good, I can get me off---haha. I'm done....You are too stubborn, and will never realize how stupid you sound.
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Chris Aycock
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1/27/2004
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Who cares if 4-cylinders can keep up with V8's. Ya'll should want a V8 because there's not that many V8's out there anymore, and because it's something different, too.
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fastyz400
Dodge Dakota
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1/29/2004
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lol, this is cracking me up, i need to throw a monkey wrench into this post.
Just wondering, I would like to see how a dakota transmission or rear end that was made for the 4 or 6 cyclinder's keep up with all that power? I'd think Ric's idea of keeping it stock is truely retarded. Your transmission and rear end will need to be swapped out unless you get a V-8 Dakota donner truck.
Plus, if you'd ever wanted to use that 4-banger dakota to pull anything, do you realize how hot that turbo would get running that type of boost for a extended period of time? You'd have a meltdown under the hood.
Tell you what you should do Ric, Goto the scrap yard, and find yourself some alloy tubing, weld them all together for a tubular truck frame, then stick your little 4 banger in it. It, will truely kick all the other ricers butts.
If, you want to go fast, modify a car and use your dakota to pull it with. That's the whole idea of the dakota's.
Peace
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