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Blckdak
Dodge Dakota
5/30/2001
17:07:38
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Looking to put in synthetic tranny fluid into my 2000 4.7L 4x4 Auto. Already have the fluid picked out, but when taken to the dealer to have it flushed and put in, they kinda hesitated and said putting anything in other then the Mopar stuff may make the tranny act differently. The stuff i have meets the ATF +4 requirment for chrysler. Dump it in anyways?
Thanks!
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SharpV6
Dodge Dakota
5/30/2001
18:13:16
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I have heard the tranny fluid that will work in our trannies is royal purple, not even mobil 1 atf meets the requirements.
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aggie97
Dodge Dakota
5/30/2001
22:45:31
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Keep in mind that they will only get between 4-6 quarts out of the tranny and it probably holds 14+. The drain and fill is a waste of time. My father who has a 94 with over 100k on it has had a complete fluid change by removing the line to the oil cooler and adding new fluid until the color changed. Kind of messy but is a true fluid change. He is an advocate of Amsoil and he has had it in there for over 30k miles. Still has a great color and the shifts firmed up. Do not have the dealer put anything in your trans other than mopar ATF or they WILL try to void any warranty claims because they document it in their service records which are kept on a national database.
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blckdak
Dodge Dakota
5/31/2001
11:28:15
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Thanks aggie97! I plan on doing a complete fluid flush and i would be having a private shop do the work, not to mention he is also an Amsoil dealer. Thats all he puts in his cars! Even if you were to have tranny problems and it wasnt even the cause of the fluid the dealer would still try to back out of it probably.
Thanks again
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Hersbird
Dodge Dakota
5/31/2001
13:46:00
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The incorrect tranny fluid being put into the Dodge minivans causes probably 1/2 of all their failures. They are known to be the weakest link on the minivans. I don't know if this translates to the Dakota's as it is a completely different transmission, but I will never put anything but the regular factory Mopar stuff in my Grand Caravan.
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Kevin
Dodge Dakota
5/31/2001
18:54:55
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What is so different about mopar 7176, that you can not put dextron III or any other similar fluid into the tranny? My 1995 Dak manual states that Dextron III is an approved fluid if 7176 is not available. I been reading the forum post for years now, and have yet to hear why any other fluid is bad. I live overseas, and I can't get fluid shipped, so I am holding off on a filter/fluid change (45k on the truck).
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sandman
Dodge Dakota
5/31/2001
20:12:26
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Amsoil claims that they have a fluid that will exceed the requirments of chrysler. They also claim that they will stand behind you if ever there is a warrant claim and you have been useing their products 100%. I do not know how true this is but truth in advertiseing is on your side. Most warrantys are up at 36,000 unless you get the extended waranty. If this is the case then you should not worry about the warranty after this. I would just wait for the 36,000 mile mark.
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Mar
Dodge Dakota
5/31/2001
22:09:24
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YOU must have mopar atf in your mopar tranny. It is not like a gm or ford tranny where you can use off the shelf stuff. Mopar trannys use components that need aditives only found in the mopar atf. If you dont use the mopar it results in deteration of the tranny leading to failure. If you got somthing else in it right now get it changed.
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aggie97
Dodge Dakota
6/01/2001
00:20:38
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Like I said, the truck that we put amsoil in had 80k on it when we put it in. Tranny was a little sloppy and felt "used". Put the amsoil in and the shifts firmed up. Slop was gone and he is now over 120k I think and the fluid is like brand new. Just a note, all atf has additives in it that are cleaners just like all hydraulic fluid. I have heard stories that 7176 matches the slip angles of the clutches and yada yada yada. What parts need special stuff?? Aluminum Case, no. Hardened metal gears, No. Then what??? Is DC using substandard Parts??? Maybe, I have yet to have a dodge trans last more than 40k on any that I have owned. I am beginning to wonder if the Amsoil or a different oil is the trick. the older minivans and 3.0 v6 autos were junk to begin with whatever fluid you ran in them. Went through 4 in one car, 3 in another and 3 in an 86 lebaron. yes I drive my cars hard, but that is why I started buying trucks and standards. My 5.9 dak is an auto and I think it is dying and only has 11k miles on it. I have had problems since new and that is why I have the extended warranty. I will be more concerned about the problem as it approaches the end of 85000. Right now, it will be regular service at the Dealer where they are the only ones that still adjust the bands if necessary every 12k miles and we shall see. I cannot wait to hook up a car hauler for my car and see what the Dak will do.
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BMac
Dodge Dakota
6/01/2001
06:08:26
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When I had my '89 V6 Auto O/D, I noticed that if I drove around at slower speeds(up to 40mph) without the O/D locked out, it showed signs of fatigue. Something about heat. When put in "park" on a slight upgrade after driving it slow with the O/D "on", then put in "reverse", it would SMASH itself into gear. AND of course showing the dealer mechanic this was a failure every time.
To make a long story short, I lost first and second gear one night, paid my $100 and had them rebuild it.
I now have a '98 5.2 Auto (couldn't find a standard) and I lock out the O/D around town.
Synthetic fluid withstands heat better, let me know what's best.
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JLK
Dodge Dakota
6/01/2001
07:34:45
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Where can I get amsoil. Does any local auto parts store sell it like autozone or do I have to mail order it? After reading this I think I have to get rid of the dextron I am running.
Thanks,
John
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Blckdak
Dodge Dakota
6/01/2001
11:41:28
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You can't get Amsoil at the store. You can call them and they will give you the name of an Amsoil independent dealer in your area. I myself became a "prefered customer", pay $20 a year and if you buy more than $100 a year in product you'll benefit from the Wholesale prices, what the dealers pay. I saved about $40 on a $210 order. No complaints yet. As far as the Tranny goes, im not so much worried about the Amsoil as i am about the tranny. Dont want to have to put up with the hassle because Dodge made a tranny that needs "special" mopar fluid only. I dont see if the other fluids meet and or exceed it why it cant be used.
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sandman
Dodge Dakota
6/01/2001
23:05:38
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ATF+4 is ATF+4 It does not matter if it says Mopar on it or not. You do not possable think that Mopar is makeing this fluid themselfs? They are buying it from one of the big oil refinerys. If it says ATF+4 and is made by billy bob's oil company then it should do just fine. This is what the Dak's use right? I found a private store in my town that has Amsoil ATF+4 and it say that it exceedes mopar specs.
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Blckdak
Dodge Dakota
6/02/2001
20:38:13
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My thoughts exactly Sandman!
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JLK
Dodge Dakota
6/04/2001
07:03:57
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What is the difference between ATF+4 and ATF+3?
John
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Blckdak
Dodge Dakota
6/05/2001
11:44:02
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Ive decided to get my tranny flushed, new filter and dumping the AMSOIL in on Thursday. Not having the dealership do it though, they were unsure of putting it in so im having my AMSOIL dealer/autoshop put it in. I'll Report back then.
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blckdak
Dodge Dakota
6/11/2001
17:41:54
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Well, was unable to have the fluid put in cause the shop( deals mailny with foreign models) didnt hav the right coupling or whatnot to atatch to one of the lines that drains the fluid. I guess I'll have to have dodge do it.
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sandman
Dodge Dakota
6/11/2001
18:31:05
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Well usualy as the numbers increase on the products label it is to improve the product basic chemistry. i.e. Dextron III is better then Dextron II. Note that newer products have backward compatability with older tranny's.
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NEAL
Dodge Dakota
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6/03/2005
19:21:09
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hELP! IS THERE A DIRECT REPLACEMENT FOR ATF DEXTRON IID? THANKS
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