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griffter77
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4/21/2003
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Hey, i guess you are right about me being on a dodge site. I could not resist reading on after I came upon this site by initiating a search for "4.3 litre s-10". For a bunch of confident "dakota racetruck" owners, there is a lot of talk about those Chevys, and Fords. I guess the entertainment value is what hooked me. I actually fantasize about BMW M5s and M3s. Maybe I should go to a BMW forum and see how many other cars they are scared of.
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SEEYA
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4/21/2003
14:19:02
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Go. Good bye.
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richard
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4/22/2003
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I have an s-10 that I would put up against most dodges in my area.
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IntenseDak39
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4/23/2003
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then come over to my area ;-)
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cool
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4/23/2003
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Atta boy Intense!
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Jacque
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4/23/2003
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A friend of mine has a stock 5-speed 3.9 Dakota. He has beaten every S-10 in our small town. Even some lightly modified ones. Not that there isn't some fast S-10's out there. But, mod for mod the 3.9 Dakota is faster.
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JustDa Facts
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4/24/2003
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Dodge dakota 3.9: 175 hp @4800 rpm, 225 lb/ft torque @ 4800 rpm, curb weight for 2wd reg cab w/ 5 speed is 3635 lbs.
Chevt s-10 4.3: 180 hp@ 4400 rpm, 245 lb/ft torque @ 2800 rpm, curb weight for 2wd reg cab w/ 5 speed is 3052 lbs.
You do the math. The only real variable is the driver. The s-10's power, and torque to weight ratio is far better than the dakota, AND the 4.3 engine develops peak torque and horsepower sooner
than the 3.9. If anyone has beaten an s-10 with a dakota v-6, mod for mod, then the s-10 probably was not racing. I will give dodge credit for putting a v-8 in a dakota, the later models are pretty quick, but you will find that their power to weight ratio is better than the s-10.
These are facts, not just some "buddy-o-mine's" story. I dont own either truck, but the facts are clear.
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Jacque
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4/24/2003
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True he was a very good driver but, after he beat a few S-10's they would get their friends who were considered to be good drivers to race their trucks. The feeling among the S-10 owners was that a Dakota should not outrun them. I live in a small town and it created a little bit of a stir. A good bit of street racing goes on around here. There is more interesting racing going around here than a Stock V-6 dakota and a S-10. After he beat a couple that were modified (K@N, chip, and cat-back exhaust was usually the extent of the mods usually), I finally went and watched a couple of races. Only one could be called a race. He outran a S-10 that supposedly had at least a K@N and chip by 4 lengths.
Don't put much into rated hp numbers. All manufacturers will exagerate the numbers sometimes. If there is ever a doubt, race them.
I don't know how one of the Dakotas with the new body style would do in a race against a 4.3 S-10 since they do weigh more than the older body style. But, you can always lighten them up. Just ask IntenseDAk39 how much they like having a few pounds removed. How much does your truck weigh now IntenseDak39 or would you rather not say?
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IntenseDak39
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4/24/2003
16:01:01
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i dont know
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Justy
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4/24/2003
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My friend has the 4.3L in his S-10. It's in the shop now for some gasket problem, leaking water into the oil. He says it's not the head gasket though. Doesn't matter...
The problem is is that I would consider my truck to be slow.(4cyl) But I can keep up with him no problem. Especially when it comes to top speed. His truck is stock, ad mine has flomaster cat and muffler, with Bosch +4 plugs, Accel Wires, and a cold air intake. I would think that my truck myst be lighter, though. His is extended cab, but I am still not impressed with the Vortech engine. I was also dassapointed by the size of the exhaust right after the headers, under the engine. Must be about a 3/4 inch pipe... Maybe with some mods it could help, but stock it sucks.
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fastdak
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4/24/2003
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had a dumb a-- in a s 10 race me. i let him get the jump on me off the line. when i hit 2nd gear i passed him quick. when i hit 3rd gear i was 4 truck lengths in front of him.
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Jacque
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4/25/2003
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I come to this board in my spare time to check out what topics are being discussed. Don't you have it posted somewhere where you have a list of what you have eliminated or replaced to reduce weight from your Dakota, IntenseDak39? I would like to find another used 94-96 model Dakota regular cab V-8 and see if I can get it down to at least 3200 lbs. I had a 94 model V-8 automatic at one time that weighed 3550 lbs. so I think that is possible. Don't you agree?
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IntenseDak39
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4/25/2003
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you should be able to do it... thats gonna be my goal (3000-3200)
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Mr.H
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4/27/2003
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Well,
I have a 5 spd 4.7 CC with like 30k on it and when I first got it I raced a little 4.3 ss reg cab from light to light in Memphis and since I don't presently have a LSD he beat me considerably. Seemed to be a fairly quick truck.
BUT, I have a Trac-lok waiting to be installed, and then its Mustang time!!
I'm sure it'll be a lot quicker off the line. I have a seriously annoying problem of not being able to use 1st or 2nd to race due to spinning the one wheel wonder. Man I hate that.
Should the Trac-lok stop all that spinning?
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Tripp
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6/11/2003
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WHOOOAAA I live in havelock NC and I will race my 95 s-10 ss against any 3.9 mopar.(with like mods bottles and blowers are a no go) Yall have to understand that a NAPA s-10 aint no SS. I have pulled 95 mustang gt's,all the ricers, pontiac gtp's, IROCS, and full size chebbies. My buddy has a 2003 dakota w/ a 5.??? 4x4 and my truck walks the dog on it. R/t's are cool but just like any car you can't lump s-dimes together and say you cant beat them all. I will line up for $20 at new bern 1/8 mile.
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Tripp
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6/12/2003
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...and I likes sheep too. Yeeeehaaaaaaw!
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Mr.H
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6/12/2003
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I just spanked a Fox body GT last night on the way to the hospital on the interstate from 70 mph on up. I just held the key in the start position and ate him up. I even let him pass me and got on it again in 5th and caught back up and passed him again just to make sure.
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Tripp
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6/12/2003
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Held the KEY???? please tell me this is sarcasm. I don't know how to take people on this board yet. I would usually laugh at a post like this and move on but I have seen some pretty crazy things on this thread so far. like the guy that said 10's in the quarter are slow. what does he race, a jet? Last time I checked tens were winning in street class.
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Tripp
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6/12/2003
17:57:28
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oh yeah and the guy that put my name and the sheep joke on a post after mine... don't hide behind your computer like a pedifile come out and say who you are if you got jokes. I got thuick skin, I can take it. Just be Man enough to put your name on it if you do.
Tripp Roy
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j
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6/12/2003
20:07:12
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Moving the key to the 'start' position allows you to bypass the 98mph speed limiter. Yes, it works.
2000 4.7 CC auto, clear corners, Magnaflow catback, Kenne Bell s/c, Aquamist water injection.
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Tripp
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6/12/2003
21:03:44
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no way jose that rocks what about the starter i am guessing it has an overide but I have never tried it (kinda like I am pretty sure an automatic wont go into reverse at 60mph but I ain't gonna try.). will that trick work on a chebby????
I am humbled by your knowledge and I will do tweenty push ups for doubting you.
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j
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6/12/2003
21:44:46
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It seems weird, but the starter won't engage under those conditions. I don't know about other makes. You can try it, but don't blame me if you crunch something =).
2000 4.7 CC auto, clear corners, Magnaflow catback, Kenne Bell s/c, Aquamist water injection.
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Tripp
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6/12/2003
21:50:51
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sounds good if I hit 106 MPH I will ty to throw it into reverse LOL Thanks for the tip
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2002R/T
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6/13/2003
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Hey lil 4.3 S-10 my R/T has easily beatin 4.3 5spd, and auto reg cabs. i ticked a 15.1@89mph stock! most 4.3s do high 16's low 17's nuff said!
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Mr.H
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6/13/2003
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It was fun! How fast is a Mustang on top end anyhow? We were really about neck and neck on the top speed. But I pulled harder to it.
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yates-in-DE
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6/13/2003
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The reason the 'Key' Trick works on the Dak is the Neutral Safety Switch. If the truck is not in park or Neutral the starter will not ingage. Same for the 5 speeds, if the clutch is not depressed the starter will not ingage. You can try it on your s-10, I don't know if it will work, but it can't hurt to try.
But for those fast s-10's, I see acouple at the strip I run at doing 13's, but if I have to put an LS1 engine in to do 13's, I will trade in my truck. And Stock Block for Stock Block (any mod they feel like bolting in) I will run any 4.3L that feels like Lining up at Peublo Motor Speedway in Peublo, CO, on any Friday Night. Gates Open at 17:00, I'm always there, so I'm just waiting on you.
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Lynn
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Tripp
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6/13/2003
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2002 r/t
You keep saying "most s-10" I run an SS. High 14's if I can hook it at the line. You are right a chrome grill s-10 dogs it(one tire fire, weak shifts and a tall rear gear). Go lookin for a red white or black SS if you find a real one (wanna be's are everywere) you will have a blast racing him. It sounds like the R/t's and the vin w SS's are very close in track times.
BUt... if you line up on one with fog comming out of his vents leave it be. Most of the SS on s-series run a hundred shot and can get in the high 12's.
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Jacque
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6/14/2003
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What kind of mods are do you have on your SS, Tripp? What is the gear ratio and trans that come in a SS and are you running stock gear ratios? Is the 95 SS the same as a 94 SS?
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steve
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6/14/2003
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YooHoo HELLO this is a Dodge site! are you guys lost? Or just wishing?
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RTSpeeddemon
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6/14/2003
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Here's an consumer review article on the 1995 Chevy S10 SS....
Performance comes from the 195 horspower 4.3 litre V6 that is so hot it requires a special name, Vortec, which is emblazoned into the top of the air intake plenum.
"With the required 4-speed electronic overdrive transmission and 3.42:1 limited slip rear axle ratio, Chevy's SS sport truck zips from 0 km/h to 100 km/h in less than 8 seconds and storms through the quater mile in the low 16's at about 142 km/h. That's moving for a truck that'll handle twisties and carry a load, thanks to its specially tuned SS suspension that includes massive P215/66R15 series tires, heavy duty shocks, stiffer spring rates, and a larger 1.16" diameter front anti-roll bar. Front disc brakes and rear drums are standard with ABS.
With sports trucks hotter than sports cars on America's highways, it was only a matter of time before Chevrolet applied its SS magic to their popular S-10 series."
Now isn't it amazing that your truck runs the quarter in QUOTE: "High 14's if I could hook"
When the tested vehicles can only muster low 16's!
195 HP in a truck is never ever going to hit high 14's, maybe high 15's if your damn lucky!
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