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green monster
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2/07/2003
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I was wondering if anyone uses or heard of Fastman
throttle bodies (formerly of Quick D). They're half of the
price of most of the other brands I've seen. Are they
good quality, because it seems like a damn good deal.
Give me some input.
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HSKR
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2/07/2003
01:07:52
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I ran one for almost three years befoe I got a F&B. I loved it, and it worked great. For the price, it can't be beat, but for best performance, the F&B wins hands down. If you don't plan on any heavy mods, and want to keep the pocket book from turning inside out, the Fastman is a great product.
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kota on 20s
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2/07/2003
01:24:06
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i did the same thing HSKR did. ran a fastman, then went to a F&B.
on thing with the F&B is, you get to keep your stock TB. so if you ever decide to sell the truck or go back to stock, you can sell the F&B, and get most of your money back.
~Eric
Single cam, non-VTEC
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CThomp
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2/07/2003
08:30:50
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I'm currently running a Fastman 68mm TB. I have had no problems with it since I got it and feel it was an excellent decision especially for the money. I don't plan on heavily modding out my truck so the 68mm is plenty of air for me. Now if someone decided to give a me paxton for Christmas...things could change.
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ScojoDak
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2/07/2003
08:39:29
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Go with F+B. Quality and function. Cant beat it!
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big_torque
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2/07/2003
08:43:53
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What makes F&B better ? Does it flow more CFM ? Is it made with better parts ?
I dont see how ported and polished TBs (of the same size bore) can be better than one another.
sry dumb question.
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CThomp
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2/07/2003
08:56:39
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A hole is a hole. They all flow air. The F&B is shinier and the Fastman looks stock for the most part.
It pretty much comes down to how much you want to spend. I didn't want to spend $400 for a TB so I spent $200.
Don't let anyone tell you that your truck will have downtime if you go with the Fastman. Call Dan Arcand (his number is on the site). You will talk to him directly. Tell him the size TB you want...he sends it to you in about 3-5 days. I think I got mine in 3 or 4 days. When you take off your old TB to replace it with the Fastman just put it (the old TB) in the box the new one came in and send it to Dan. It's that easy.
So it just comes down to money.
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Texas Todd
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2/07/2003
09:09:06
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This shinney vs. not thing.
I've ported my own 68mm TB.
But, the total surface area of the air going thru the 'hole' is very little on the surface. Shiney poliched, looks great, but isn't going to flow any better overall than a slightly 'rough' one. I'ts not a 'solid' trying to slide thru there, it's a fluid (air).
In fact, I sail boats (catamarans), and the laminer flow over the hull of boat is actually disrupted some when it's too smooth, disrupting the 'boundary' layer of fluid over it.
You mechanical engineers and aeronautical engineers help me out here.
Bigger 'hole' is good to a point, but as long as the surface it relatively smooth, a good boundary layer will result in good air flow thru the 'hole'. Polished ad nauseum is not any better, than just smooth, and many studies have shown with the flow of fluids(air, it's a fluid too you know), that it may hurt.
Just my .02, flame suit on!
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CThomp
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2/07/2003
09:14:58
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Yeah what he said.
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Jim
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2/07/2003
09:33:07
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CThomp,
What site did you buy your TB off of??
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CThomp
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2/07/2003
09:42:19
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thefastman.com
Call Dan Arcand directly. His number should be posted on the page. He's a good to deal with. Excellent customer service. He's a talker too so if you have questions don't be afraid to ask.
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b1llyw
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2/07/2003
09:54:38
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The F&B does flow more and it is made with better parts. It's purpose built to flow more and provide better performance. Fastman is good, but it's still just modifying something that wasn't that good to begin with. Here's a good link if you want a comparison.
http://www.dodgetrucks.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=17124&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=throttle%20bodies&start=15
Bill White
2002 QC 4x4, SLT , 4.7, 5 spd, 3.92 LSD
1995 CC 4x2, SLT, 318, 5 spd, 3.55 LSD
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CThomp
Dodge Dakota
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2/07/2003
10:12:34
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Does that hold true with the 4.7L as well though?
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b1llyw
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2/07/2003
10:21:50
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Yes, although I haven't seen as a good a comparison test for the 4.7 stuff as what I posted above.
Bill White
2002 QC 4x4, SLT , 4.7, 5 spd, 3.92 LSD
1995 CC 4x2, SLT, 318, 5 spd, 3.55 LSD
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big_torque
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2/07/2003
10:30:52
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In comparing the 52mm TBs (fastman & F&B) from that site (above 2 posts) I`d take the fastman all the way. $250 vs $490. F&B made what , 4 HP more - which coulda been a change in air temp. , engine temp , operator , anything.
Like TexasTodd said .... Its air going through a hole.
Sorry I cant see paying 240 bux more for 4HP. 4HP aint squat. You`d never feel it.
F&B is a beautiful piece. I`m not here to flame or push sales for Dan.
Just giving my opinion. Like we all do here.
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b1llyw
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2/07/2003
10:36:09
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If you look at that test, the 50mm F&B makes more power than the 52mm Fastman. If you went with a 52mm F&B, the difference would be even more dramatic.
Bill White
2002 QC 4x4, SLT , 4.7, 5 spd, 3.92 LSD
1995 CC 4x2, SLT, 318, 5 spd, 3.55 LSD
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big_torque
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2/07/2003
10:49:09
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Sorry missed that. Comparison was 50mm to 52mm
Still I dont like cost/HP of F&B.
And shouldnt they flow test it instead of dyno test ? Too many things can affect HP output.
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b1llyw
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2/07/2003
10:54:07
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I'm putting a 408 in my '95 Dak. I'm going to upgrade to a 55x52mm F&B. I'll sell you my 50mm F&B for $325. Fits 92-95 trucks. Then you're only $75 more than a Fastman and you keep your core.
Bill White
2002 QC 4x4, SLT , 4.7, 5 spd, 3.92 LSD
1995 CC 4x2, SLT, 318, 5 spd, 3.55 LSD
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big_torque
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2/07/2003
11:24:23
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Ahh thats OK. Im going with 53mm fastman to go with big heads and cam going in soon.
Thanks anyway !
408 in a 95Dak ?
Damn! Nice.
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Lesley
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2/07/2003
11:31:43
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I believe the Fastman TBs are ported and polished
stock and the other is billet.
I just got a Fastman with an M1, not installed yet so I
can't say how I like it.
97 3.9 CC Sport. JBA stainless headers, Borla Turbo XL stainless muffler & tip, 17 x10 Boyd Coddington Smoothies, FMS injectors, V8 TB, Quick D intake, Have: 5.9 litre 360, posi, 3.92s, Ordered:M1, 52mm billet TB, ceramic JBAs.
, KRC cam, mopar perf valve covers & air cleaner
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swingman
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2/07/2003
15:45:32
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Lesley, what size is your Fastman TB?
Bill, have you found a home yet for that 318?
Thanks
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Lesley
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2/07/2003
15:58:10
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Hey Derek
It's 52mm, here is a pic
Are you going to the DTO meet on Sunday?
97 3.9 CC Sport. JBA stainless headers, Borla Turbo XL stainless muffler & tip, 17 x10 Boyd Coddington Smoothies, FMS injectors, V8 TB, Quick D intake, Have: 5.9 litre 360, posi, 3.92s, Ordered:M1, 52mm billet TB, ceramic JBAs.
, KRC cam, mopar perf valve covers & air cleaner
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swingman
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2/07/2003
16:02:16
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Most likely I will be there...You?
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afi360
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2/07/2003
16:18:20
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unless i go with the actual lightning killer kit, im using fastman.
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Lesley
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2/07/2003
16:30:31
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I'm going to try to get there - I have to go to Belleville
tomorrow, but I should be back in time. Timmy's &
trucks sounds like a great way to spend a Sunday
afternoon :)
97 3.9 CC Sport. JBA stainless headers, Borla Turbo XL stainless muffler & tip, 17 x10 Boyd Coddington Smoothies, FMS injectors, V8 TB, Quick D intake, Have: 5.9 litre 360, posi, 3.92s, Ordered:M1, 52mm billet TB, ceramic JBAs.
, KRC cam, mopar perf valve covers & air cleaner
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Glenn
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2/07/2003
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Members of the Durangoclub use Fastman's TB's almost exclusively and not one of them has a negative thing to say about the product or the producer. Dan is very knowledgeable and super easy to work with. A couple of guys that are in the fabrication business have seen my TB (fastman 68mm) and said it was excellent workmanship. For the price you can't go wrong.
Glenn
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chachimacho
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2/08/2003
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How do the Hughes TB's compare to the F&B?
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Lesley
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2/08/2003
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I've heard nothing but good about the fastman in the couple of years that I've been researching parts. He's in the latest issue of Truckin' doing a stroker rebuild on a 360.
97 3.9 CC Sport. JBA stainless headers, Borla Turbo XL stainless muffler & tip, 17 x10 Boyd Coddington Smoothies, FMS injectors, V8 TB, Quick D intake, Have: 5.9 litre 360, posi, 3.92s, Ordered:M1, 52mm billet TB, ceramic JBAs.
, KRC cam, mopar perf valve covers & air cleaner
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Chip
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2/09/2003
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Yup, I can vouch for Dan's (Fastman)skill, quality & customer service.
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dodgeboy
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2/09/2003
22:28:55
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Dan is hands down the best person I have ever done business with in the dodge magnum game (I've never done business with bernd, not trashing ya buddy =P). His customer service is unparalelled. He sends you a tb and your not happy with it he will make it right, but i have never heard of anyone that is not happy with one of his tb's
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Lesley
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2/09/2003
22:35:27
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dodgeboy - what ever happened to quick D Tony? He seemed to disappear.
97 3.9 CC Sport. JBA stainless headers, Borla Turbo XL stainless muffler & tip, 17 x10 Boyd Coddington Smoothies, FMS injectors, V8 TB, Quick D intake, Have: 5.9 litre 360, posi, 3.92s, Ordered:M1, 52mm billet TB, ceramic JBAs.
, KRC cam, mopar perf valve covers & air cleaner
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