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chachimacho
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1/04/2003
10:08:18

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Howdy! Long time reader, first time poster. I have an '02 R/T and it started ticking at idle. I also need to inform that I'm not too smart with engines. A friend listened to it and said it may be the injectors and that its normal. We put a stethoscope in various locations and the noise was loudest on the left fuel rail. My only mods are: K&N FIPK, 3923's, Mopar wires, 180 stat, and relocated IAT sensor. Any info would rock 'cause its bugging the hell out of me!

PAT!



Dr. D
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1/04/2003
12:09:21

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It could be a lifter so consider switching over to AMSOIL Synthetics at your next oil change if you are not currently one of their customers.

Your lower viscosity (0w-30,5w-20 & 5w-30)synthetics protect bettter than your higher viscosity petroleum oils (10w-30,10w-40,etc) and they will eliminate quiet a bit of valvetrain noise too.

Dr. D

p.s.
lifters will transmit noise to other parts of the vehicle.



LOGIC71B
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1/04/2003
14:28:49

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Dr.D,

I have been using quakerstate 10W40 for years now. I just rolled over 104k, my question is would it benifit me to switch to a 5W30 or 5W40?
Oh, I live down in the great Texas hill country, so the temp is not always a factor in the winter.

I started using the high milage oil at 98k.

Thanks in advance!



Red
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1/04/2003
14:43:23

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It is probably nothing to worry about, the injectors tick loudly when they fire, and since from the factory the injectors are not all in sinc, you might hear one over the others. I would not think you had any kind of lifter problem it being so new, no matter what oil you run.



Dr. D
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1/04/2003
18:42:12

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The Amsoil cured my ticking sound in my 96' 5.2 Dakota and my fuel economy increased by about 3-4 miles per gallon.

Hope this answers your question there LOGIC71B.

Dr. D



chachimacho
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1/05/2003
13:14:58

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Thanks for the info! I'm about due for my first oil change, so I'll give the synthetic a shot.

PAT!



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1/05/2003
13:20:47

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I also have a 02 RT and yes the injectors are a little loud. Nothing to worry about.



Red
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1/05/2003
20:47:50

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first oil change??? I am assuming 3000 miles?

This is a debatable topic, but I would wait until your truck has at least 10000 miles on it before switching to synthetic. Break in on the engine usually occurs during the first 10000 miles. I have heard both sides to this argument, and it compares to the ontological arguements, but I would lean towards the safe side and wait a little longer.



chachimacho
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1/06/2003
06:38:11

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Yup. Picked the truck up in September. I'm just about to hit 4K. I figure I'd change oil and rotate tires at 5K, just to get it all over with at the same time. Does anyone else agree with Red? I simply don't know about how many miles it takes to break the motor in.

PAT!



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1/06/2003
11:39:10

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- With the high-tech equipment used in todays gasoline engine manufacturing process, engine components such as rings, lifters, etc. are seated "broken in" well within the first 1,000 miles of operation.

Strait from the pages of Motor's Automotive News Magazine.

Dr. D



Red
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1/07/2003
00:19:57

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I would say the rings, bearings, ect would be broken in from the factory, i dont remember how long they break those engines in, but it should be sufficient break in from the factory. What I am speaking of is the quench time, the time it takes the engine to reach its operating condition. There is a point when the steel in the engine is vulnerable to abuse and you must quench the engine properly. Engines that are high nickle content do not require as long a quench period as carbon based steel. The nickle content is expesive though, and most manufacturers do not use the high nickle content becuase of this. If you remember the late 80's and early 90's chevy 350's, they were high nickle content, and if you notice those vehicles are hitting 2-300000 miles these days. The nickle content is the reason why, those motors were assembled in Mexico, well most of them anyhow.
Hope this helps,
Red




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