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Jer
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5/03/2001
02:26:54
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I am looking to talk to people who have fit in this beast. Has anyone done it or know of anyone who has? Links??
Ger.
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Alan
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5/17/2001
01:35:22
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I HAVE SEEN A 360 IN A 90 DAKOTA, I HAVE A 318 IN MY 90 DAKOTA, I HAVE WANTED TO PUT THE 360 IN, BUT COMMING ACROSS ONE IS A PROBLEM, THE 360 THAT I SAW WAS A VERY TIGHT FIT, THE INEER WHEEL WELLS WERE CUT AND RE-MADE, THEY ARE NOW FLATAND THE TRUCK ALSO HAD A 6 INCH LIFT PUT INTO INTO IT..THE TRUCK SHOULD BE ON THE PICTRE GALLERY SOON, IT HAS SO MANY PARTS ADDED.
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89DAKOTASPORT
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5/17/2001
22:40:20
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Alan was it very difficult to put a 318 in your dakota. I have a 89 Dakota Sport 4x4 5 speed and would like to drop one in some day soon hopefully if i can find one. What was the major things you had to change and what year of motor should I look for.
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ALAN
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5/17/2001
23:50:28
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well it wasn't very hard to put in, it pretty much fit with ease, and there is still a little room to work with, the only thing that is the hardest to do is to change the #4 plug, i have to take the lower left engine mount loose and jack the engine off to one side to get in there. my 318 is a 90 that came out of a dodge caravan, i bought it from a buddy i used to work with and i took a trans that i found in a junk yard and rebuilt it, same as yours, a 5 speed, i had to chang the rear end, but i only have 2wd, i would love to make it a 4wd, but it costs so much, i need a front axle and the tran. i have plenty of suspension, i have a 6in. kit in my truck.i also have another 90 dakota that i am putting a 3.9 in with my old trans, a 5 speed, the only problem is that i can't find a computer and loom for it, i had given my loom and computer to a car recycling place to trade for my 318 loom and computer, do you know anyone that has a computer and loom laying around, i am willing to drive to get it or send cash to send it to me, can u help my out here?
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cbsdakota
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5/18/2001
17:17:40
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www.engine-swaps.com They have kits to bolt older style small blocks and big blocks in '87 to '96 4 banger and V6 trucks. Pretty cool. Shows pictures of a 318 in an '88 and a 440 in an '89!!!
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ALAN
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5/19/2001
01:19:39
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alright, i will try there and see what i can dig up, yea i just went there and saw those pics, pretty cool,never seen a 440 in a dodge b4
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Ryan Kane
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5/19/2001
19:03:20
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I know of some guys that have attempted an engine swap. You will need to view this website and read the message board. Also, you might post a message there and someone will respond:
http://www.geocities.com/Baja/Desert/1727/DodgeDakota.html
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ALAN
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5/20/2001
03:04:08
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alright thanks, i will post a bord there and see if i get a response, it's 2 here now an di just got in, i was at a mud track that we made bout 50 miles south of here, i got my beast stuck tonite, i never thought it would be possible, i was lucky enough that a friend was out there also and he ran up on me and he pulled me out, we have had some good rains here the last few days and i went there today, looks like a few trucks have been through so i tried and i got stuck tonite, sucked pretty much!!!!!!! but we had a lot of fun today, well i am gonna go post that and see if i get a response, thank again!!!
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greg
Dodge Dakota
5/28/2001
21:43:26
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umm well alan.... a 6in lift on a gen1 4X4 is almost imposible unless u got a 4in suspension lift made for a 91-96 and a 2in body lift. or swapped in a solid axle. but on a 2wd..... no way in hell. the closest u can come is 2in spacers and a body lift!!! And another thing it is very hard to convert a 2wd gen.1 dakota to a 4x4.
1) they have a diffrent frame.
2) they have rack and pinion steering.
and another thing unless your referring to a full size van. they never had and never will have a v8 in a dodge minivan,
a 360 is the same size as a 318 just diffrent bore and stroke. Flat fender wells...attractive.
and i cant wait to see ur 6in. lifted 318 dakota 2wd. in the gallery WHOOPS my bad your.... 87 2WD WITH A 2.2 4 BANGER AND A 5 SPEED WITH UR BALD STREET TIRES. I BET IT REALLY EATS LOL. i recommend u not posting anymore messages on this site. we who know what wer talkin about dont have time to listen to a bunch of lies and dreams.
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greg
Dodge Dakota
5/28/2001
21:45:32
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that was a lil meen i guess but i get so sick of hearing people who dont know what ther talking about>
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ALAN
Dodge Dakota
5/29/2001
02:15:07
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ok smart guy, i have a 6 in body lift on my truck,and what is ur point about rack and pinion steering, it all works, the steering was off for awhile but i know some people and they made some changes in the front suspension and i am just fine now,I DON'T HAVE 4WD, but i would like to make it 4wd, and the frame can be done to make the axle fit, you put a 4-6 suspension lift kit in and u have the frame cut and welded 2 in back and it fits just fine. yea i was referring to a full size van, i know that the caravan came with a 6 or a 4 in it,well sometimes u have to make changes with the fender wells, some times u don't, a big engine in a small truck doesn't exactly fit most of the time,sugest that u don't post anymore, just b/c u can't see it, don't mean u don't have to belive it, i am not saying u have to believe me, but when i get the pic in there, u will be sorry, an 87', i had 1, i put it in a ditch 1 nite, i didn't like that truck to much, and for ur info, it was a 6 cylinder, extended cab, long bed, AUTO, just b/c u can't afford to but a new truck, with your 87' 2wd 2.2 banger, and a 5 speed with bald street tires, what u can't afford to buy new tires? what do u eat? my dust!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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ALAN
Dodge Dakota
5/29/2001
02:17:16
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ok smart guy, i have a 6 in body lift on my truck,and what is ur point about rack and pinion steering, it all works, the steering was off for awhile but i know some people and they made some changes in the front suspension and i am just fine now,I DON'T HAVE 4WD, but i would like to make it 4wd, and the frame can be done to make the axle fit, you put a 4-6 suspension lift kit in and u have the frame cut and welded 2 in back and it fits just fine. yea i was referring to a full size van, i know that the caravan came with a 6 or a 4 in it,well sometimes u have to make changes with the fender wells, some times u don't, a big engine in a small truck doesn't exactly fit most of the time,sugest that u don't post anymore, just b/c u can't see it, don't mean u don't have to belive it, i am not saying u have to believe me, but when i get the pic in there, u will be sorry, an 87', i had 1, i put it in a ditch 1 nite, i didn't like that truck to much, and for ur info, it was a 6 cylinder, extended cab, long bed, AUTO, just b/c u can't afford to but a new truck, with your 87' 2wd 2.2 banger, and a 5 speed with bald street tires, what u can't afford to buy new tires? what do u eat? my dust!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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89DAKOTASPORT
Dodge Dakota
5/29/2001
22:59:02
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Hey Alan is your truck on the picture gallery yet. I saw he updated it but I didnt see yours. I was just wondering.
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GREG
Dodge Dakota
5/30/2001
00:25:09
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i aint waistinmy timearguing. 6in boddy illegal and dangerous and not very likely. and might i add gay. and why would u modify it if u say u dont have a suspension lift. which u did say see...
i would love to make it a 4wd, but it costs so much, i need a front axle and the tran. i have plenty of suspension, i have a 6in. kit in my truck.
and how come they didnt modify the fender wells in the shelby huh?!?!?!
and the 318-360 is no wider then a 3.9 v6
and eat ur dust i think not u wanna know what i got..89 sport 4x4 3in body 2 in torsion bar lift.
NEW 33/12.50 sentry L/T's edelbrock headers and 13/4 in duals... so bring ur bad ass truck with ur 6in body lift. they didnt make an ext. cab in 87 and they never made one with a long bed.
DUMB ASS!!!
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ALAN
Dodge Dakota
5/30/2001
01:43:43
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ok, i guess ur not the smart guy, in 87 there was a extended cab with the long bed, they call it a Dakota LX, sounds like u have a nice truck, i don't want to get into my truck that deep, i use mine as a work truck mainly, back and forth form site to site, i jacked it up to go through the mud and and shit i drive through to get back to the sites. and the 318-360 is wider, if it wasn't then y would i do the extra work to make it fit, dumb ass
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greg
Dodge Dakota
5/30/2001
12:32:25
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ok NO they didnt come out with the ex cab till 90 . and it is no wider then a 3.9 all a 3.9 is, is a 318 with 2 less cylinders u can ask neone. and they came in the shelbys and they didnt modify the fenders. myu dads been a chrysler service manager for 20 years, i may not no much but i know my mopars. and why wouldnt either he or i here of a dakota lx? since hes been around dakotas everydat practically since the first started to manufacture them. and wher u able to use the stock fan in ur truck with the 318? o and i just double checked to make sure, by searching gogle for this "dakota LX" and nothing came up hmm. if ur gonna post on here dont post lies and dont misinform people.
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greg
Dodge Dakota
5/30/2001
12:39:58
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is abyone else gonna help me here?? walt u know this stuff help me tell this guy hes a liar
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larry
Dodge Dakota
7/25/2001
19:56:09
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alan your are full of crap and suck ass
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sandman
Dodge Dakota
7/25/2001
21:45:20
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I once saw a 426 Hemi bored to 500 in a two wheel drive toyota pickup. It was of course heavly modified and was probably just useing the box and body pannels but it was origanal dimesions. Is the 360 a small block based on the same block as the 318 or is it a different block design.
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Travis B.
Dodge Dakota
7/27/2001
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I can't believe that I am getting involved in this.... The 3.9l V6, 5.2l and 5.9L all have the same deck hight and 90deg. V angle. Therefore thay are all the exact same width. The all share the same transmission bellhousing and starter configurations so they are easy swaps.
Big blocks have two different deck heights and are known as B and RB engines. The most popular B engine is the 383. The most popular RB engines are the 426 Hemi and 440. That is it. 3 V-8 engine sizes in Mopars.
Pre magnum 318's and 360's do not share heads/intakes like the post '91 magnums. Balancing is also done differently between the two engines, but almost every external dimension is the same. (except for some oil pan applications)
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RubberSoul
Dodge Dakota
11/27/2001
23:35:42
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Nicely done Travis. Makes sense to me :)
RubberSoul
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wldtm
Dodge Dakota
11/29/2001
17:48:33
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WOW..this is entertaining
Okay as i have mentioned in a couple other posts, i have an 88 dodge dakota with a mild 79 360 w/A727 8 3/4 w/3.91s and posi. I believe the 8 3/4 is out of a c body mopar...not quite sure on that. The mounts were fabricated by a local chassis builder, but supposedly 3.9 mounts will work..however mine was a 2.2. Yes shelbys have dual electric fans....but yes a flex fan can fit with a 3.9 radiator, i know this cause i have one out in my garage with this. I used the same 4cyl crossmember with the a727 and only had to make a slight dimple in the firewall for the distributor and one dimple in the header tubes out of summit for the steering. it has the truck oil pan from a 79 dodge 360 crewcab. i was told that it wouldnt fit by a dodge tech. person @ a dealership...but what do you know it does. if someone can help me i will try to send the few pics i do have of the truck and install. my email address in wldtm@hotmail.com .....oh yeah and it runs 12.35 at 105 on the bottle w/slicks!!!
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ian at beverly tire
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1/17/2002
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I'm in the process of dropping a '92 5.2 from a Ram into my '90 Dakota . The engine fits but i needed to change the oil pan to a '92 Dakota . I am having problems finding a lower rad hose . The Shelby hose does not fit around the neck of the '92 water pump . I am also looking for a harness and computer . The flexplate/torque converter needed to be swapped to mate to the engine and trans. A local transmission shop took care of that for me . After this I'm off to work on the fuel system .
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Cooper
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5/09/2002
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I am in the process of putting a '87 360/904 combo in a '93 dakota chasis. It is part of a street rod so fenders etc. are of no concern.
the only problem I have encountered are engine mounts which I decided to fabricate. If I had to do it over I would use a newer magnum engine which is basically a drop-in.
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