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95DakotaV8
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2/13/2001
17:37:25
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The latest issue of Sport Truck has a Kenne Bell supercharger install on a 4.7L quad cab.
KJR
1995 Dakota Club Cab SLT 4x4, 5.2L, 5spd, 3.90 rear end
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IWANNARAMU
Prospective Buyer
2/19/2001
10:05:08
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Can you scan the article and post to the board? I cannot locate an issue of that mag around here. I would love to find out more as that is the configuration of the truck I want! Thanks
Bryan
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Python97
Dodge Dakota
7/11/2001
23:20:52
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I want to see it also. What month was it??
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Buck Harley
Dakota Enthusiast
3/12/2004
20:19:17
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Who has installed a KB Supper charger on the 4.7 and what if any problems were there
Buck
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moron
Dodge Dakota
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3/13/2004
00:17:19
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still have bad grammar
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Buck Harley
Dakota Enthusiast
3/13/2004
00:40:28
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I know I cannot spell very well and my wording sucks at time but I feel very good about it as I have had MS for a few years now and It`s get harder each day. to get out of bed and do things I love to do
you take care
Buck
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Zach
Dodge Dakota
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3/13/2004
12:04:20
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You make fun of his spelling because he spelled 1 word wrong? Get a life buddy.
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Buck Harley
Dakota Enthusiast
3/15/2004
00:32:59
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I ordered one from Bob Kennedy yesterday.
Buck
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RaZoR1
Dodge Dakota
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3/16/2004
20:56:34
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I have the kenne bell and had a few problems with the MAP bypass system but we got it all figured out.. I know of some other guys that have had to run with the water alcohol injection due to some detonation issues but i can get 94 up here (Canada) I lo9ve the kit and would recommend it to anyone.
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GRNDSM
Dodge Dakota
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3/17/2004
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I originally liked the idea of Kenny Bell SC, thinking that it would take place of the manifold (like most roots/screw style blowers). There would be one less thing to upgrade (no need to buy/port a manifold) and it will have a very direct air path (throttle body, SC, engine – all stacked up on top of each other) Well, that was until saw one installed and realized just how wrong I was…
I am sorry, but the only way that I can describe their pipe/airflow routing would be as “GOOFY”. The SC is residing on above the PS header, the throttle body is above the DS header, so the air has to travel across the motor to get to the SC and then make 180deg turn on its way to the intake.
I realize that ATI has an even “goofier” pipe routing, but at least they do it for a good cause: to plumb an intercooler. I just do not understand what KB engineers were thinking... So I ended up buying an ATI Procharger.
Leon
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98 5.9 Durango – soon to be ATI Supercharged
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Buck Harley
Dakota Enthusiast
3/17/2004
15:02:07
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Really at 7 PSI threw a 4" tube the air flow is not efected at all if you have to pull a manafold you have gastets to replace and a change of presure leak. The only Postive displacement out there is the Screw type KB Pro Charger does not make a kit for the 4.7 the KB uses no intercooler as it is a pull threw and not a push...
Buck
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RaZoR1
Dodge Dakota
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3/17/2004
19:14:00
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Truth..
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Buck Harley
Dakota Enthusiast
3/17/2004
19:44:26
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Just a Heads up on this I checked with my local dealer who I have bought 4 Dodge trucks threw the years and 3 Cars for my wife. Also I want to find out what is the skinny about add ons Performance or Racing parts are concidered to be non-DaimlerChrysler Corp Parts. repairs and adj caused by them are not covered.. but it does not say you cannot put them on or that they will void your power train Wart. I then talked to Warren Mich. they said go for it.. My Dealer told me to bring it by after I install it and they will check it out to see . more or less it is up to them to determine if the add on will cause a problem but the said that they believed not,as this was my 3 Dak. I had mod. them all with Headers and Computer changes.. the 88 I put in a limited slip. just measured the lash and when I reinstalled set it at the same. So if you have a Dealer that your in good standing with,I would believe that even a S/C would be OK.. mine is.
Buck
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Buck Harley
Dakota Enthusiast
3/17/2004
19:44:30
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Just a Heads up on this I checked with my local dealer who I have bought 4 Dodge trucks threw the years and 3 Cars for my wife. Also I want to find out what is the skinny about add ons Performance or Racing parts are concidered to be non-DaimlerChrysler Corp Parts. repairs and adj caused by them are not covered.. but it does not say you cannot put them on or that they will void your power train Wart. I then talked to Warren Mich. they said go for it.. My Dealer told me to bring it by after I install it and they will check it out to see . more or less it is up to them to determine if the add on will cause a problem but the said that they believed not,as this was my 3 Dak. I had mod. them all with Headers and Computer changes.. the 88 I put in a limited slip. just measured the lash and when I reinstalled set it at the same. So if you have a Dealer that your in good standing with,I would believe that even a S/C would be OK.. mine is.
Buck
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Victor C. Hook
Dodge Dakota
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7/24/2004
13:18:38
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I noticed that for my California 2003 Dakota R/T the Kenne Bell S/C is the only Smog legal item I can find, in the list at the ARB site: Http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermkt/devices/amquery.php
I hope other items get updated to include the 2003 R/T 5.9, but many parts are listed up either to 1997, or at best to 2002. I know it is the same truck to you and me... but the Smog Guru's see things differently. You would think
without smog you could see things more clear, Though (apparently) it is not that clear to them. Oh I guess it's because the 2003 has a different ECU, but can it be changed? Should it be?
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Buck Harley
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7/24/2004
14:30:30
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"Leon
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98 5.9 Durango – soon to be ATI Supercharged"
Leon, the Dakota inlet is all on the driver side and a more direct set up the Inlet tube does not cross the Eng. It hooks to the TB and then the TB hooks to the Blower inlet.. I for one cannot see how this would be gooft .. the design is to keep everything under a stock hood with out Goofy-ing up your hood. The 4.7 is a diff. bird than the 5.9 or the 5.2
Buck
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seriously
Dodge Dakota
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7/24/2004
14:34:21
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I thought you already had a blower Buck?
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seriously
Dodge Dakota
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7/24/2004
14:43:22
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"Well I just finished my Keene Bell Supercharger install.. whith the help of my friend Steve S. it went very easy.. I now have the TQ and the pulling That I feel Dodge could have done with that small V-8. Right off Idle the TQ comes on strong and stays with you right up the RPM scale..
As far as safety it has 3 means to protect your engine and takes no time to spin up to rpm because of the screw design max boost right of idle,and when not needed it goes into bypass to save fuel,but put your foot in it and it will smoke my 16"X 9.50 wide tires
It cost more but well worth the extra money.. It has it`s own oil system NOT ENGINE OIL another plus,in my book
Buck"
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seriously
Dodge Dakota
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7/24/2004
14:46:19
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"I installed the KB supper charger on my 2001 4.7. with Catback Flow master and relocated the Cold air inlet.. I also did the trany TQ Mod for the RFE 45. I run 392:1 gears
No inter cooler or after cooler is need due to the pull threw screw compressor..I found that KB when they reflash the PCM are very concervative. with every thing .. I assume this to be a Wart issue.. I
a before and after.
194RWHP@5400 RPM
276 RWTQ 4400 RPM
the before was not done on my truck but just another Dak. with the same set up..
ater was
325 HP at 5700
334FTLB @ 4700
the boost bounces around between 6-8 at full petal to the metal..
There was some more tuning on the Dyno.. done between the runs
I got the Iuirdum Plugs
cold thermostat
5" open core muffler
NO headers.
Cleaned up intake ports a bit..
But KB Manfiold not radiused inside
All that can be done has been done..
and when I found that GM offered a HP crate motor with the Powdered Metal rods I now feel better about them as I can find no spec`s on them.
still sorry about my spelling.
PS been to the strip
Best 1/8 8.60
Best 1/4 was 13.5 @ 98
Next time I will run slicks as I can borrow a set. and lighten it up some. I got no wheel spin as the track was very sticky and very hot the Humity and temp were also high. any one who has done the fuel pump mod to get more fuel let me inow I don`t want to spend another $200.00 to KB
Buck"
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Buck Harley
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7/24/2004
15:12:18
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No my Frist posts were in my reguard for information.. The post today was to someone who posted that the pluming was a nightmare.. maybe a Drango but not the DAK I have a 2001 Sports standard cab.. Here is the post as you see it is a Drango
"I originally liked the idea of Kenny Bell SC, thinking that it would take place of the manifold (like most roots/screw style blowers). There would be one less thing to upgrade (no need to buy/port a manifold) and it will have a very direct air path (throttle body, SC, engine – all stacked up on top of each other) Well, that was until saw one installed and realized just how wrong I was…
I am sorry, but the only way that I can describe their pipe/airflow routing would be as “GOOFY”. The SC is residing on above the PS header, the throttle body is above the DS header, so the air has to travel across the motor to get to the SC and then make 180deg turn on its way to the intake.
I realize that ATI has an even “goofier” pipe routing, but at least they do it for a good cause: to plumb an intercooler. I just do not understand what KB engineers were thinking... So I ended up buying an ATI Procharger.
Leon
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98 5.9 Durango – soon to be ATI Supercharged"
The Before # I posted were of not my truck just a fellow who had run a Dak 4.7 on his Dyno and keep the #`s so I used them as a guide line.. I put the note in that the before was not my truck..
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GRNDSM
Dodge Dakota
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7/24/2004
19:57:11
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>maybe a Drango but not the DAK I have a 2001
>Sports standard cab.. Here is the post as you
>see it is a Drango
This is not the Durango vs Dakota thing, they are identical under the hood. The difference is in the engine, as you said, 4.7 is a totally diffirent engine, my comments were regarding a 5.2/5.9 and apperently didn't apply to the 4.7. Sorry about the confusion.
Leon
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