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AlmightyDart
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11/08/2002
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Hey everyone, I'm actually thinking of buying a 408 stroker kit for my almost stock 2001 R/T 5.9. Anyone have any pictures or sites I can hit besides speedtweaks for info. Also I would like to see where are all of the 408 strokers on this site that are hiding post your pics. Thanks
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dakotart1
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11/08/2002
05:23:07
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He is a link to mine. Haven't updated it for a while, but the new best time is 12.83@108.35
http://home.insightbb.com/~dakota.rt1/
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92dakotahd
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11/08/2002
07:03:41
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I was gonna say something but I would have been talking about dakotart1's truck. And his numbers are exact and I only had the time. Bye the way, Congrats on breaking the 13 second barrier. The truck has had it in her all summer just wouldn't find the conditions for drag racing.
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cbsdakota@aol
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11/08/2002
15:52:57
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Go to thefastman.com and check out the FastMan built 408 powered R/T. 12.03@119MPH.
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.alex.
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11/08/2002
16:20:25
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You could go over to www.dragtruk.com and look up the following:
Damon Blumenstein
Scott Quaranta
Tim Cochran
That's just a smattering of the 408 boys in the crowd. And of course, don't forget Ronnie Williams from above in this same post (I think he may have been the first one to do this little "stretch your 360" trick but I could be wrong) .....
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92dakotahd
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11/10/2002
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From what I was told they were the first to to go with a 408 or at least to do it to the extent that they did.
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BIGTYMER
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11/10/2002
10:15:49
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Are those motors still running all motor and what do you have done for suspension?
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92dakotahd
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11/10/2002
14:26:59
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dakotart1's is all motor and he's got a drop on it. I'm not sure which one. He had tried traction bars but found them to be a waste of time. He does go to slicks on the rear and older GenII wheels in front for the strip. I'm not sure about specifics on the drop though and any specifics on the rear end. It's also C-notched I believe.
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dakotart1
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11/10/2002
15:58:30
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Zach is correct on what he has said and the truck is all motor. I will add that we went from MT ET's (26X10.5X15) to Hoosier Quick Time Pros (28X11.5X15) The MT's we had to do a big burnout to get them sticky enough to hook up. The Hoosier's we just have to haze and they get really sticky. We have Black American Racing Wheels (Wagon Wheels) and had them widened to 10". We have the old type Dakota wheels with used tires on the front when we drag race. The R/T wheels are so heavy and doing this took 60lbs. off the front of the truck. We have a 2/4 drop using the Western Chassis drop. Widening the Rims and the Hoosier's plus taking the clutch fan off put us down in the 12's. I might add that we are using a Delphi Electronics Computer System(Currently the only one and available only from Jon Davis) to run our Fuel Management System. The other guys are running the Fast System or Split Second Box to run theirs. I don't want Nitrous or Blower on the truck because it is a daily driver and don't want a Roll Bar or Cage in it. The truck has over 11,000 miles on the motor and the only thing that has been done to it is change the oil.
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big_torque
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11/10/2002
22:15:40
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Why is an extra tuning device needed to tune the 408 ? Cant you just run bigger injectors and a MP PCM ?
I am interested in going 408 but it sounds like a headache to get it to run.
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kota on 20s
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11/10/2002
22:20:26
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depends on the cam i beleve. most people who do a 408 swap, usually get pretty agressive with the cam, and need a way of controlling the fuel.
again, thins is what i THINK...
-Eric
Injection is nice, but i'd rather be blown.
5.2L, 5speed. Powerdyne SC, 50mm TB, 2bbl M-1, 1.7RR's, MSD 6BTM, ciramic JBA headers, 3" carsound cat, dumped gibson
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dakotart1
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11/11/2002
05:38:20
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The Mopar PCM will not by itself run the 408. If you go to a 408 you will have Fuel Management issues, that is the reason you need to go to someone who really knows what they are doing. There are guys that have built their own 408's and they may run quick times but they are always having problems with one thing or another. Yes you would want to go to a bigger cam. We are running 30lb. injectors, a the Delphi Computer System and have know Fuel problems. If you want a really good running 408 then contact Jon Davis at 1-765-348-4386. Keep in mind it will cost some bucks for one, but speed doesn't come cheap.
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big_torque
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11/11/2002
06:08:56
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Thanks for the info , Ronnie. I appreciate :-)))
Jon real busy in coming months ? Would love to give him my truck for the winter.
Can you pass emissions with your 408 ?
thx
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92dakotahd
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11/11/2002
08:15:46
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Is this Ronnie or Ryan??
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Slammed00R/T
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11/11/2002
10:15:20
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Hey dakotart1 ill take your 408 motor to the track anytime for some slips.
00 ext cab R/t
Magna Charger 12 psi
Mopar heads, cam, headers
Msd boost retard, 3 in cutout
3500 stall, air intake, throttle body
Slicks , and much more.
OHHHHHHHHH if needed a 75 shot (TNT wet kit)
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big_torque
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11/11/2002
16:27:48
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Oops , Its Ryan. My bad. I first saw the truck at R/T Haven where it was under Ryan/Ronnies R/T. Sorry about that , Ryan.
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dakotart1
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11/11/2002
17:04:53
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This is Ronnie. Ryan is busy as Purdue and doesn't have much time to surf the boards. big_torque, I am sure Jon could work something out with you. What I did was leave the truck with Jon just before Thanksgiving and went and got it in late April. I had Jon pull the motor and I paid him as I got the money and he would do more to the truck until it was paid for and done then I picked it up. Indiana doesn't have an emission law, but the cat was run over and is missing now, so I doubt it would pass. If the cat hadn't died I am sure I would have no problem passing it. Slammed00RT, I would be more than glad to let you take it down the track. If you make it to Indiana (East Central) next year, drop me an email and we will arrange it for you.
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big_torque
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11/11/2002
17:22:20
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Oh , it is Ronnie. LOL. Poor kitty , I seen one get run over once. :-) Thanks , man.
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Moparjake
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11/11/2002
17:57:24
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Just wondering what type of driveability and gas mileage you get out of your daily driver 408.
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dakotart1
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11/11/2002
19:50:38
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Well I have over 11,000 miles on the motor and haven't had to do anything to it except change oil. The biggest problem with driveability is trying to keep your foot out of it, other than that no problems. Before we put the 456 gears in it, I got 18 MPG. I drove it to Nashville, TN back in Sept. and averaged 16.7 MPG with the 456 gears in. Driving around locally, I really couldn't give you an answer because of what I said earlier. Sorry!
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AlmightyDart
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11/12/2002
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Nice thanks for the sites and info guys. I'm going to do this as soon as I get the money, question though... what would be a better route investing in a supercharger or going with a stroker kit?
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big_torque
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11/12/2002
18:00:59
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Bump.
Yes I have the same dilemma. 408 or SCed 360. I wanna get into the 12s but also have to worry about passing emissions. NOS is a pretty much a "track only" mod to me.
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