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2BluefrUDakot
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7/21/2002
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From what I see & have read there is not a whole lot of diffrence between the R/T 360 & the 4.7 except for about 30 horses. I've been lookin for a R/T but they are hard to find used. So I'm thinkin about just going with a 4.7 instead of the R/T. My other Dakota was a Quad cab with the 4.7 in it & it run good. So I believe it is possible to get a 4.7 to run as good if not smoke a R/T. Would be nice if Dodge decided to put their new Hemi motor in a Dakota. Now that would be something that would run.
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TEAMFAST
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7/21/2002
21:26:40
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This must be your first day
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cudashoe
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7/21/2002
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LOL
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Turboguy
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7/22/2002
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2BluefrUDakot
If you are serious about an R/T, I know of one for sale. I have the keys and title waiting for a buyer. A friend of mine is a trucker and needs to sell his 2000 Clubcab R/T.
20k miles, Mopar headers, PCM, FM TB, cold air intake, 3" exhaust, bedliner and tonneau cover.
Every power option from the factory and has the Chrysler factory warranty until 2007 or 75,000 miles! Ran a 14.4 @ 97mph at Gainesville Raceway.
Garaged since new and always pampered!
a750turbo@dragbike.com if interested. He needs to move it!
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Texas Todd
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7/22/2002
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Actually,
Stock motors have only a 10hp difference, not 30!
It's 30 ft/lbs of torque difference, stock to stock.
Don't torque me off!
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Brad
Dodge Dakota
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7/22/2002
21:54:57
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How much does your friend want for that rt! Sounds like a great deal if the price is right.
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R/Tinker
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7/23/2002
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Personally i love my R/T because the 4.7 was too peaky of a motor i like a flatter powerband...
Doc
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rtman70
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7/24/2002
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2blufrudak or whatever it is.... u said u think its possible to get a 4.7 to smoke an r/t. of course it is but u have to have some money that u are willing to invest. and that will only let u smoke a stock r/t. if the r/t is also souped up then u are stuck up a lake with no paddle my friend. even if the engines have about the same hp and torque, the r/t still has more and i have raced a 4.7 with my r/t. we were both stock and he got smoked. oh yeah and he did know how to drive if anyone thinks thats the reason.
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2BluefrUDakot
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7/24/2002
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It just seems that the 4.7's are alot easier to find than the R/T's with low miles on them that have not been run real hard. I've been lookin in the Houston area for about 2 months now & have put the word out at alot of car lots & no one has even called me on one yet. Maybe I'm just to picky. I would like to have a 99 or 01 Extended Cab Intense Blue R/T. I;m probably going to hold off till after the frist of the year before I buy unless I come across what I'm lookin for. And if I don't find a R/T buy then I'll probably go ahead & buy the 4.7.
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dakpower
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7/24/2002
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I have a 2001 patriot blue regular cab 2 wheel drive slt+ dakota w/ the 4.7 and ive raced a friend w/ a stock club cab r/t and he didnt smoke me. in fact we stayed even till about 90 mph then we stopped. i was happy that i didnt get smoked as i thought i was going to. the only modification ive made to my truck is dual exhaust.i wouldnt even mess with a reg cab r/t......not that stupid!
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Duner
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7/24/2002
19:01:46
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rtman70 - While I understand that you can only go
from your personal experiences.....there's a whole
bunch of RTs that had a whole bunch of mods that
have been beaten down the track by a 4.7 (with or
without turbo). I hesitate to use the word
"smoke" because I don't know the quantitative
value of "smoke". Is that a fender, 1
truck-length, 2 truck-lengths or a whole second?
Obviously there are plenty of R/Ts that are
quicker than my 4.7, but that number should be
dwindling in the future. The 4.7 can be made to
run against the modded 5.9s - you just have to be
selective about the mods you do to the 4.7.
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yates-in-de
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7/24/2002
19:06:34
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Duner,
Well put.
Later,
My VW Killer
Lynn
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TorqueMonster
Dodge Dakota
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7/25/2002
20:19:49
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Hey look, the R/T has a bigger motor AND pushrods so it will win no matter what.
I wish Duner lived in my neighborhood, I would show him what TORQUE was all about. I don't believe any dang 4.7 could beat my 5.9.
TORQUE RULES!
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2BluefrUDakot
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7/25/2002
21:32:27
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Guess we'll just have to sse about that after I get me a 4.7.
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2k4x45.9er
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7/25/2002
22:34:42
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well dont forget the reliability issue the 4.7 is a new motor with alot of bugs unlike the small block which has been around for the last 50 yrs...and kept getting better over the years and now we have the best mouse ever im sure you will understand this when you fire up a 5.9 trust me
i have over 45K on my truck and have never ever been to a dealer for repare of anything and i drive real hard all the time in my moded 360
why would you want 4.7 i really dont follow?????
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NoDak
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7/25/2002
22:44:20
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Maybe he wants to lead instead of follow?
Or maybe he just wants to kick some RT tail?
Or maybe he doesn't want an antique?
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2k4x45.9er
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7/25/2002
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hey you wouldn't understand its a guy thing nodak....
big cube antique motor with a factory warranty in this day and age awesome.
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Michael
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7/25/2002
23:34:48
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Just for the info 250 - 235 = 15hp
And the 5.9 is a great engine, but, it is on its way out. And the 4.7, which I happen to have in my 2000 Quad is a better engine for the following reasons;
1. More efficient lightweight intake
2. Overhead Cam Engine
3. Overall more lightweight engine by about
50 lbs or more.
4. In case you didn't notice the 4.7 has a
coil for each plug, they are mounted
directly on top of each one. Which
translates into no, if not significantly
less resistance than a cap/rotor & wire
setup.
5. I feel safer with 6 Quarts of oil in
the pan than 5. (personal opinion) & fact.
PS. If you own a stock R/T and I see you around
I'll run you, but don't be depressed when you
don't win.
If you got mods you gotta wait till I got mods
Probably run ya anyway though.
PSS. Both the 4.7 & 5.9 are Kick @#$ engines
so we shouldn't rag on each other we should be
ragin about how we kicked the &*^% outta those
chevys, fords, and definitely least that import
crap.
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Duner
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7/26/2002
01:06:57
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Hahahahaha @ NoDak.... I never thought of them as
being antiques! hahaha
TorqueMuncher - so what neighborhood is it that
you live in? I could always take a road trip to
show off some 4.7 torque!
2K4x45.9er - Doesn't 2K4x45.9 mean you have a quad
cab? The 5.9 is probably the best choice for
something that big and heavy.
2Blue - The 4.7s are just gonna keep getting
stronger and stronger as more aftermarket mods
become available. Are you planning on a manual
trans or an automatic?
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Duner
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7/26/2002
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Hahahahaha @ NoDak.... I never thought of them as
being antiques! hahaha
TorqueMuncher - so what neighborhood is it that
you live in? I could always take a road trip to
show off some 4.7 torque!
2K4x45.9er - Doesn't 2K4x45.9 mean you have a quad
cab? The 5.9 is probably the best choice for
something that big and heavy.
2Blue - The 4.7s are just gonna keep getting
stronger and stronger as more aftermarket mods
become available. Are you planning on a manual
trans or an automatic?
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TEAMFAST
Dodge Dakota
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7/28/2002
09:03:32
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Why are 4.7s listed as 240HP in Rams then?
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Jonas
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7/28/2002
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Haaa.. 2BluefrUDakot.. dont worry.. once upon a time I made this mistake too.. asking what was better a 4.7 or an R/T.. Haaa.. B-A-D-I-D-E-A!!! too many options, mods, conditions, etc, etc, etc.. get whatever you feel is best for you, then do the best you can with it.. most of all have fun..
TorqueMonster
-Dont know you, dont get offended by this.. but I watched Duner run his 4.7 AT THE R/T NATIONALS just a few weeks ago.. if you really think you can beat him you BETTER give me a call so we can get you some SERIOUS modifications (SC, NOS, heads, cam, intake maniflod, fuel, PCM, gears, headers, exhaust..bascially EVERYTHING!).. otherwise you dont have a chance..
Jonas
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Michael
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7/28/2002
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The HP numbers I listed were for the dakota
b/c this is a dakota message board.
But, the ram gets an extra five from a different
exhaust layout.
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rtman70
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7/29/2002
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duner.... what mods do you have on your 4.7 and what are your 1/4 times?
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2k4x45.9er
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7/29/2002
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yeh Duner... so what can this hill of beans do????
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Duner
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7/29/2002
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12.76 @ 107.77mph before adding the F&B 72mm TB,
Porting and Polishing the heads and adding an
air/water intercooler system.
The mods are mainly the F&B 72mm TB, Custom PCM,
Single Turbo and full 3" exhaust system.
I ran the truck last month at the Dakota R/T
National event.... it was 5th quickest out of 107
trucks in attendance and the quickest truck that
wasn't running Nitrous.
Duner
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rtdkota
Dodge Dakota
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7/29/2002
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Torquemaster beast... hehe
Duner's truck would hand your RT it's hat after it blew it off!!!
I've even got an RT (semi quick now)... With Nitrous I MIGHT be able to keep up with Duner. That's a Might... My truck with NOS should be in the 12.8x-12.9x range (being I run a 14 flat NA).
Even so, that 'little' 4.7L hauls ass... What, 12.7 Duner?
I've ridden in it... Definately a fun ride. Just need to get a few 4.7L guys serious about going that route and the kit might happen for folks. If I had a 4.7L, that's what I would do.
Sam
2000 RT knocking on a 13.8x here in 2 weeks.
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rtdkota
Dodge Dakota
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7/29/2002
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OH YEAH...
Here's little challenge for people interested--
What: Truckin! Nationals (4th annual)
When: Oct 19-20, 2002
Where: Firebird Raceway, Chandler AZ.
Drag racing, car show, bracket racing, gambler.
I'm putting up a brand new $100 Ben Franklin (framed) to the first person with a Dakota (RT or not now!) to run a 11.90 or quicker pass!!!
We expect 20+ RTs to be there, and a wimpy 4.7L Turbo Charged Dakota too! Come one call all...
Sam
Email me for more info, rooms, etc.
I've got a killer room rate going at a local hotel.
performanceparts@cox.net
www.socaldakota.com
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CW
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7/29/2002
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That 12.7 was without the mildly ported heads, intercooler or 72mmTB. :)
2001 4.7HO RC 5sp 3.92 LSD
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Duner
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7/29/2002
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COOL Sam!
That means that if I'm gonna really turn it up
that I will probably only get 1 chance at it....
an 11.95 would get me booted for a safety
violation so I have to make sure it's quicker than
a 11.90 before they send me home!
And remember - I don't want just any old wrinkled
$100 bill... I want it nicely pressed so I can
frame it!
Whimpy.. er Duner
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2k4x45.9er
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7/29/2002
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OH MAN!!!!
very very nice now this is a first....
apologies to Duner and good luck out there bud..
Dave 2k 360..
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