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mike1
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5/29/2002
13:02:34

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i was just wondering how hard is it to install a m-1 on my 02 r/t. i have s/c to bolt on also. i am guessing the new m-1 will work well with this. ii have heard you need to customize alot. is this true



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5/29/2002
13:24:02

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The M1 is about a 6-7 hour installation for someone who has not done it before. It's relatively easy, you just have to tear down a decent amount of components to get it all in there. Lots of people have done it or had it done so there's a wealth of assistance available here and on the other R/T forums.

As long as you have the M1 installation kit you don't need to do any cusomization at all, though some people have had to grind down the fuel rail spacer so they mate up ok.

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5/29/2002
14:00:38

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I just installed mine last Saturday and it took all day. You don't want to rush the job and you may find yourself going back to the parts store for little things.

I can give you the details once your ready, and it should shave at least an hour off your install time. Learn from our mistakes and you will be fine.

Just make sure you get the mopar gasket set, it makes things much easier.



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5/29/2002
14:00:42

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I just installed mine last Saturday and it took all day. You don't want to rush the job and you may find yourself going back to the parts store for little things.

I can give you the details once your ready, and it should shave at least an hour off your install time. Learn from our mistakes and you will be fine.

Just make sure you get the mopar gasket set, it makes things much easier.



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5/29/2002
15:40:02

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R/Truck -

OK fess up - How many actual hours did it take? from the time you opened the hood till you cleaned up the mess and packed the old barrel intake in the M1 box!!

I revealed how long it took me (9 hours) and was "shamed" by those that reported their install took 2-3 hours. However, I did do some additional jobs too (twisted off bolt, painting bracket, soldering IAT wire then covering in black factory style loom, etc).

See, I'm still making excuses for how long it took me!!!



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5/29/2002
16:21:38

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Mine only took 8 hours 59 minutes

your just slow!


8am - Start taking stuff off
11am - everything off and clean
11-1 - lunch, go to Autozone for some parts
1-4 - install
4-5 - oil and anti-freeze change
5-7 - clean up, drink lots of beer and bitch about how bad the back of my legs hurt.



kota on 20s
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5/29/2002
17:28:06

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damn i thought i was slow...lol i did mine in 6 hours. if i had to do it again im sure i could do it in 4. it is a pice of cake.

Eric, 98 5.2 5speed, K&N gen II, 50mm TB, 2bbl M-1, 1.7RR's, JBA ciramic headers, carsound cat, dumped gibson, and a lot more

DaveR
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5/29/2002
17:35:59

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I'm getting ready to do the swap this weekend, is it just that? A swap? I figure just breaking everything lose and getting the gaskets off. Doesn't look too hard at all from this side of the computer, but what kind of snags should I be expecting?



kota on 20s
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5/29/2002
17:40:10

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yes its just a swap. one problem i had was, one of my stock manifold bolts was broke. so i just used a jam-nut to get it out. (20min of wasted time to find a nut to fit)

dont forget to purge the fuel rails. ummmm...thats all that i can think of

it looks WAY harder than it is. IMHO

Eric, 98 5.2 5speed, K&N gen II, 50mm TB, 2bbl M-1, 1.7RR's, JBA ciramic headers, carsound cat, dumped gibson, and a lot more

Dakaty
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5/29/2002
19:22:09

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Puttin that sucker on is one of the funnest thangs they is!!!



DaveR
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5/29/2002
20:52:29

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I would think running the seat dyno afterwards sounds like more fun :)



mike1
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5/29/2002
22:42:11

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witch would you buy first for a s/c r/t m-1 or headers



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5/30/2002
11:21:21

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The actual swap only took me 6 hours, I just farted around after that. If you rush through it (the first time) you might find yourself making foolish mistakes, so don't think of it as a race.

It would be nice to have some small air tools, that would make it go much quicker.





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5/30/2002
12:23:34

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My dodge dealer is doing mine for 2 hrs- at 44.00 an hour! He also installed my MP headers for 96.00 fully welded!

I would rather pay someone, my class and work scheduel allows me to work on nothing, even my snowmobile has to be worked on by others. Kinda sad when your a graduating engineering student w/o time to work on your own stuff! The sadness continues :(

Later fellas

RTjohn



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5/30/2002
12:26:59

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Your dealer must be having a half price sale!

You better find more things for him to install before he realizes his prices are way off.



chad
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5/30/2002
15:32:33

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hey mike i was wonderingwhere u bought the M-1 i am looking to buy one and the cheepest i have found is 425. thanks

-chad-



MIKE1
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5/30/2002
15:43:38

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I AM GETTING READY TO ORDER MINE TO. PAY DAY TOMMOROW. I NOW KRC PERFORMANCE HAS IT FOR 425 I THINK SOMEBODY SAID MOPAR HAS IT FOR CHEAPER.



dakota matt
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5/30/2002
16:18:20

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Mancini racing has it cheaper but you need to hurry. They have it on sale till the end of this month. Unfortunately I won't have enough untill next payday or I would buy it now. I don't know what the regular price is from them. M-1 $330 install kit $60. I hope I saved you a couple of bucks. I realize you only have one day to get this price so good luck.

http://www.manciniracing.com/



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moparjoe20
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5/30/2002
18:48:57

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I paid $267 for mine and got it yesterday!! The bad news is that I ordered from Jegs in Feburary and it just got here.



mike1
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5/31/2002
10:03:04

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i looked at jegs and found it for 369. they said they have them in it said on web site for 92-96 i guees that doesnt matter. this was also there for 250 Magnum Truck, 1992-Up, with MPI Fuel Injection



mike1
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5/31/2002
16:44:07

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no body has the full kit. cuase you need to do somthing with the fuel injetion. krc is the only one i found that includes it.



mike1
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6/04/2002
21:55:17

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well i ordered my m1 from krc he said i should have it in 2-3 days hpofully i can get it on this week end will let you know how it works



HSKR
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6/04/2002
22:19:35

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Everyone that sells the 2bbl M1 can sell you the install kit as well. ALl the install kit includes is some spacers for the fuel rails, and some pipe plugs for the spare EGR ports that aren't needed. Dodge has recently released a new 2bbl M1 mold with no EGR stuff on it, but you still need the spacers and one plug for a hole next to t-stat housing(which would work good for a e-fan temp switch) The install kit shouldn't be more than $50.



mike1
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6/20/2002
22:22:58

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i am kind of weiry abut the grinding down the fuel rail. i dont now if i want to do this sound kind of iffy. iam going to try to order it fron john mercedes.



moparjoe20
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6/21/2002
01:12:49

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You don't have to grind down the fuel rail just the aluminum spacers that come with the install kit , mine had to be cut down about 1/8" so I trimmed them down with a hacksaw and smoothed them with a file. It sounds a lot more complicated than it is , probably took me about 15 min and thats because I would file and fit each one individually.



YA
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6/22/2002
02:23:50

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No grinding was required for my install!



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