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Does anybody know the actual performance increases of the Mopar Performance PCM for 2000 5.9L Dakotas? Are these dyno numbers or something read somewhere? I seen where the 5.9 is suppose to gain 28 hp and 26 lb.-ft., but I'm not sure if I can believe this. Thanks.
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Nitro Junkie
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5/19/2002
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I would like to know the same
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annonymous
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yeah , me 2
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rtdkota
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5/19/2002
13:55:21
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Well.. here's the answer:
Maybe. Most trucks will benefit from the advanced timing, others will run about the same... to a point. Remember with stock trucks, there's SLOW trucks, middle of the road, and FAST ones... I would say my 2000 is a middle of the road. With the PCM, it says to run 91+ octane... With my truck, I've run 87 octane since I got the PCM. No pinging (I am running colder plugs, and I did install headers). A couple of things the PCM will definately do for all trucks:
1) Removed top speed limiter (from ~112 mph stock)
2) Moved fuel cut off from 5200 rpm to 6000+ rpm
3) Shift point bumps from 4800 rpm WOT to 5300 rpm WOT
4) AC compressor cuts out sooner (giving more HP) than stock.
Without the MP PCM, you cannot take full advantage of the M1 intake (shift point too low, and you cannot reach peak HP before fuel cut off!).
Actual HP increase stock vs. MP PCM... probably not more than 10 hp (you can feel a difference, but nothing extreme-- disappointing because my '99 with PCM was the same way--- ALAS! My '95 was night/day difference, and required 93 or 91 & 104+ booster to stop from pinging). I think that DC went conservative on the 99 and up MP PCMs... The B&G might be a better choice.
FYI-- I have a stock '00 RT PCM forsale, works fine, already have a spare. Would be a good candidate for a B&G reprogram (and still keep your stock PCM-- I had a MP PCM go bad on my 2000-- good thing I still had my stocker!)
I'm asking $150.00 and I'll pay shipping.
Sam
www.socaldakota.com
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jj
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5/19/2002
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Hi sam does glendora dodge still supply these high performance chip`s?
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5.2L 4x2 Federal x x P5249545 P5249545 P5249955 P4876467 P4876895 P5007092 P5007192
5.2L 4x2 California x x P5249545 P5249545 P5249955 P4876467 P4876894 P5007093 P5007193
5.2L 4x2 Manual x x P5249542 P5249542 P5249954 P4876465 x x x
5.2L 4x4 Federal x x P5249545 P5249545 P5249955 x P5007115 P5007094 x
5.2L 4x4 California x x P5249545 P5249545 P5249955 x P5007116 P5007095 x
5.2L 4x4 Manual x x P5249542 P5249542 P5249954 x x x x
5.9L 4x2 Federal x P5249517 P5249546 P5249546 P5249935 P4876469 P4876893 P5007103 P5007201
5.9L 4x2 California x P5249517 P5249546 P5249546 P5249935 P4876469 P4876892 P5007104 P5007202
5.9L 4x2 Manual x P5249517 P5249543 P5249543 P5249934 P4876468 x x x
5.9L 4x4 Federal x P5249517 P5249546 P5249546 P5249935 x P5007121 P5007105 x
5.9L 4x4 California x P5249517 P5249546 P5249546 P5249935 x P5007122 P5007106 x
5.9L 4x4 Manual x P5249517 P5249543 P5249593 P5249934 x x x x
8.0L 4x2 Federal x x P5249548 P5249548 P4876133 P4876473 x P5007131 P5007211
8.0L 4x2 California x x P5249548 P5249548 P4876133 P4876471 x P5007132 P5007212
8.0L 4x4 Federal x x P5249548 P5249548 P4876133 x x x x
8.0L 4x4 California x x P5249548 P5249548 P4876133 x x x x
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4.7L 4x4 Federal x x x x x x x x P5007198
4.7L 4x4 California x x x x x x x x P5007213
5.2L 4x2 Federal P5249516 P5249516 P5249545 P5249545 P4876138 x P4876897 P5007096 x
5.2L 4x2 California P5249516 P5249516 P5249545 P5249545 P4876138 P4876262 P5007117 P5007097 x
5.2L 4x2 Manual P5249516 P5249516 P5249542 P5249542 P4876137 P4876261 x x x
5.2L 4x4 Federal P5249516 P5249516 P5249545 P5249545 P4876138 P4876486 P5007118 P5007098 x
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5.2L 4x4 Manual P5249516 P5249516 P5249542 P5249542 P4876137 x x x x
5.9L 4x2 Federal x x x x x x P4876896 P5007107 P5007205
5.9L 4x2 California x x x x x x P5007123 P5007108 P5007206
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4.7L 4x2 California x x x x x x x x x
4.7L 4x4 Federal x x x x x x x x P5007209
4.7L 4x4 California x x x x x x x x P5007210
5.2L 4x2 Federal x x x x x x x x x
5.2L 4x2 California x x x x x x x x x
5.2L 4x4 Federal x x x x x x P5007129 P5007113 x
5.2L 4x4 California x x x x x x P5007130 P5007114 x
5.9L 4x2 Federal x x x x x x x x x
5.9L 4x2 California x x x x x x x x x
5.9L 4x4 Federal x x x x x x P5007127 P5007111 P5007207(1)
5.9L 4x4 California x x x x x x P5007128 P5007112 P5007208(1)
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4.7L 4x4 California x x x x x x x x P5007200
5.2L 4x4 Federal x P5249518 P5249518 P5249702 P4876142 P4876479 P4876899 P5007101 x
5.2L 4x4 California x P5249518 P5249518 P5249702 P4876142 P4876480 P5007120 P5007102 x
5.9L 4x4 Federal x x x x x x P4876898 P5007109 x
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Hersbird
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5/19/2002
22:23:03
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My 2000 R/T has pretty much one mod (well two now that I've moved the IAT). That was a used MP PCM. I don't have any dynos or times to show the difference (although I'll past differences with it on/off once I get my Tazzo) but the old seat dyno says its a lot faster. The big thing is the addition of the timing advance and the rasing of the shift points. Even if the stock 360 is starting to lose its torque at 4800 when it would normally shift, it's still better to have the mechanical advantage 1st gear (and then 2nd) offers, rather then give up the gear advantge to get back into the power curve. The truck will spin the tires much easier on a launch (probably the timing advance) and will bark the tires good on the shift (probably due to the higher shift point). It is really necessary when you add more mods or you may not even notice any advantage from the other mods. It's pretty much a great place to start with an otherwise stock truck. The butt dyno says it's got to be more then 10hp, but maybe not as much as 28hp, although that seems possible.
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rtdkota
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5/21/2002
10:05:04
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You can get the Mopar PCM from most any dealership if you want to pay full price :(
You can try www.krcperformance.com and they should be able to hook you up.
Sam
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