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LI Blackdak
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4/13/2002
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is it legal to have a 12 second dak driving around???
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alex
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Is it legal to have all these 12 second Vipers driving around??
The NHRA cut off on helmets is quicker than 13.00 or basically if you go 12.99, better get a bucket. The cut off for having a (roll)cage as Duner mentioned is quicker than 12.00 Once you go 11.99, you have to install a 6-pt roll bar. And those look like arse on a truck. So if those guys get kicked off the track, guess it's street racing from then on...... heeeeheeeheee.
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bernd
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4/13/2002
10:55:06
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Duner: The Twin setup will be no more than 8-9# max. No way am I running 12# on stock intake/heads/pistons/rods on the 5.9L. If someone wants to upgrade the engine to handle that boost (as I did with my V6)...12# would be flippin' AWESOME! :)
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Supercharged/Intercooled @ 10# w/Nitrous
14.55 @ 96.01mph
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alex
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4/13/2002
11:01:45
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Bernd, I guess that belly pan gakset will hold the 8-9# level? I'm surprised that you're trying to use the stock intake, but I like your approach of trying to make it available for everyone (not just M-1 users).
What the hell is that belly pan down there for, anyhow?? What if you could weld it shut?
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bernd
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4/13/2002
11:19:25
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We'll be using an upgraded gasket for the belly-pan as well as reinforcing it.
If you want to weld it, you'll need to make an aluminum plate (the factory one is steel) to be able to TIG weld it to the manifold. Make darn sure that everything is totally clean before trying to TIG it though.
The belly pan is there due to design...definitely not functionality.
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
Supercharged/Intercooled @ 10# w/Nitrous
14.55 @ 96.01mph
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alex
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4/13/2002
11:43:48
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What in the world were they designing around?? The manual called it an "inspection cover." What is there to inspect inside that thing? Anyone ever heard of a bore-a-scope?
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bernd
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4/13/2002
11:52:21
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If you've seen the inside of the stock manifold, you'll understand why the plate is there. (There has to be some way of cleaning up the initial casting.)
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
Supercharged/Intercooled @ 10# w/Nitrous
14.55 @ 96.01mph
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alex
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Yeah, i guess that would be a sandy mess. So, then their best effort was to take a steel plate and an organic gasket and bolt it all to an aluminum rail and hope that it held together just inches above the lifter valley? Nice work, boys.
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bernd
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4/13/2002
12:17:13
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"Dodge...Different". ;)
Personally, if they would use an aluminum pan (reinforced of course)...there shouldn't be any problems with leaks, unless under boost.
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
Supercharged/Intercooled @ 10# w/Nitrous
14.55 @ 96.01mph
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Duner
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4/13/2002
12:24:58
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Here at our local tracks - a helmet is required if you run 13.99 or quicker - or if you run more than 100 mph.
A driveshaft loop(s) is required if you run 12.99 or quicker on street tires or 13.99 or quicker on slicks.
At least a 6-point roll bar system is required if you go 11.99 or quicker - along with a flame resistant jacket. I won't be installing one of those!
Some tracks aren't as anal about all that stuff. If you tech in for a slower time and happen to go quicker, not all tracks will send you home. My closest track is Firebird Raceway. They will send you home for absolutely anything they can. They already got your money at the gate!
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alex
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Guess they didn't figure on a bunch of yay-hoos shoving 10psi thru their stock manifolds and trying to get your basic work truck into the 12's.
Hindsight is 20/20. Who knew that Dakota owners would aspire to join the Pony Car Wars??
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Duner
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4/13/2002
12:29:17
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Just the differences in expansion and contraction rates between the two types of metal will cause the gasket to fail. They definately didn't think that one thru....
I thought somebody manufactured a heavy-duty aluminum replacement cover to replace the flimsy one that comes from the factory. If not - that sounds like a very good product for development. I mean - how much could it take to have about 100 of them knocked out on a CNC mill? How many do we need?
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bernd
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4/13/2002
12:38:21
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Someone did for the V8 - don't remember who though.
Duner, if you want to build some for the V8/V6, i've got two templates here.
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
Supercharged/Intercooled @ 10# w/Nitrous
14.55 @ 96.01mph
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alex
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12:40:23
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I think it was Hughes. Maybe that's not it. I know I've seen one.... Kammer? It's out there somewhere, but I don't really need one since I've got this new 4.7 motor. I think our intake is made of recycled 2-ltr bottles or old LP's or soemthing. HeeHeeHee....
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Duner
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Is there much of a market for them? All the R/T guys are running M1s now.
If my machinist buddy were to build them, he would just beep-off from the actual existing belly pan. I'd have access to plenty of them now.... lots of them sitting under work benches in garages lately.
Alex, wait 'til you get a chance to pick-up one of these composite intakes. They weigh about the same as the throttle body does!
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alex
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I don't know if there is much of a market since almost everyone is running an M-1...... They're prolly pretty cheap to CNC (if your CNC machine is already paid off) so whoever it was that I saw isn't losing too much money, i guess. Sure wish I'd had some of this reinforcement kit tech when I still had my old 6. I had that gasket replaced three times (I had the Mopar PCM)and it would still ping while running 106.5 octane.
As for that 4.7 intake, I'm in love with the whole notion right up to the point of being able to modify them internally. If you can't put them back together after you grind on them, that's kind of a bad design, too. But, in the heat of Atlanta summer traffic, I've never even begun to worry about detonation. And from what you're saying, there' a real wieght savings there, too.
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alex
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13:40:52
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Is it me, or is everyone at the office this morning? Grrrr......
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Duner
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13:47:16
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Speaking of Atlanta..... you guys have a new Police helicopter coming your way this month. I produced and delivered the paint stencils this week. Now don't go trying to outrun them helicopters - OK? hehehe
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Tom Slick
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13:48:25
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all you need is a piece of aluminum sheet, and just cut it to the pattern, then TIG weld it on...just have to make sure that there are no leaks.
Yes, I'm at the office today, too....working on Project "R/T-2"...he he he...
Later,
Tom "Slick"
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alex
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13:57:04
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HEY EVERYBODY!!! DUNER'S WORKING FOR THE INFIDEL!!!!!!
Hahahaaaa just kidding. I can't imagine how Atlanta even has money for a new chopper. Metro Atlanta consists of about 18-20 counties and when work's over, everyone goes out to the burbs.... That means that the actual City of Atlanta governement hardly has a tax base and therefore no funds. Their cop cars and DOT trucks,etc. all look like throw-aways from the Dukes of Hazzard sound stage...... So far I've had no problems with their helicopters, but I do predict that I will have a problem with their pesky Laser units sooner or later. haeeheeehee
Tom..... I'll trade you! I'm sitting here laying out campsites for the Ga Dept of Natural Resources on AutoCAD. Oh, the exciting life of a landscape architect.......
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xplikt
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14:06:13
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Neat, I almost shoce architecture as a profession, but I liked web development more. I have to go to work sometime today too..heh.
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LI Blackdak
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14:10:48
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lets petition dodge to make the 2004 R/T a forced induction hemi...hehe with awd
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Tom Slick
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15:38:28
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Alex - I'll stick with working on the "R/T-2"...he he he...can't wait to get this thing finished!!!
Later,
Tom "Slick"
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xplikt
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15:43:35
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I like that Charger concept they have, I really wish they would bring that out...
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alex
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15:46:04
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Tom, needless to say we can't wait for you to finish RT-2, either. And we also can't wait for you guys to finish the 3.9 kit. Because then you'll have no excuses to start on the 4.7 kit. Hahaahhaaaahhhhaaaaa!
Whoooooooossshhhhhh!
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Tom Slick
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He he he he he he... We're working as fast as we can, while continuing to run the shop.
Rumble, rumble, whistle, roar...
that guy won't race against turbos anymore...
he he he
Later,
Tom "Slick"
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