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Twisted Pair
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4/03/2002
00:10:36
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Just a thought and a question......
when you are on the gas the throttle body
sucks in air from the air filter correct?
What if.... when you get on the gas and
instead of the engine having to suck air
what if there is air already flowing into
tube kinda forcing its way in.
Do you think that would add some HP? Kinda
like a ram air i guess.
Or like 4" ac tubing running into your air intake
from underneath the truck.... kinda like a force of cold air...
i dont know if you understand me or not.....
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kota on 20s
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4/03/2002
01:17:16
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thats what a turbo or supercharger does.
Eric, 98 5.2 5speed, K&N gen II, 50mm TB, 2bbl M-1, 1.7RR's, JBA ciramic headers, carsound cat, dumped gibson, and a lot more
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Quicksilver
Dodge Dakota
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4/03/2002
02:09:50
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Ram air.Cheat high end hosres if you do that.
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SuperBeeDak
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4/03/2002
03:18:03
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Just running a cold air intake or "ram air" hood isn't going to get you those gains that you are looking for. ANy performance gains from those are going to be because of the cooler air entering the engine. What you are looking for is boost. Now the easiest way to get boost is with a turbo or supercharger but you can also get it from a ram air setup. Now ram air i believe(someone correct me please if i'm off on this) delivers approx 1 pound of boost for every 100mph that the air is entering the engine. So while it does make a difference when going extremely fast at high RPM's it's not something that will help light to light races IMO.
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Clevite 77
Dodge Dakota
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4/03/2002
09:47:03
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So according to your statement if I go 900 mph I may have enough boost to beat a lightning? LOL Just kidding.
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twisted pair
Dodge Dakota
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4/03/2002
10:12:28
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so your sayin its a bad idea
to put the 4" tubes directy to
my intake? I have a 3.9L and i
was thinking of running two 4"
one on each foglight opening and
having them flow into like a y pipe
then from there into my air intake
home brew that i have set up.
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alex
Dodge Dakota
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4/03/2002
10:42:10
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It will gain you some power (maybe 5 hp), but don't forget to put an air filter in your system somewhere. Can't go running straight air into the engine and have it last very long.
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roadracer
Dodge Dakota
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4/03/2002
12:42:51
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When I first changed my air cleaner I used the 14" round type, good performance but still did not help to much. So I swithched to a 97 TB hat, ordered a piece of 3" silcone 45, and air cleaner, some mendral bent tube from the local rice shop. The air cleaner sits right in front of the grill where that worthless fact ducting used to be. "Runs a whole lot better" and when your speed increases so does the ram air affect. As in the issue of acully getting a pound of boost, in certain applications it has been accomplished but there are to many variables, air temp, alltitude, how well the system is sealed etc..
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bernd
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4/03/2002
21:08:45
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Actually, you're not "on the gas" on a lot of the newer vehicles. You're on the "air pedal" (gas is controlled by the injectors/sensors/PCM...not the pedal. ;)
This ain't no carburetor anymore. LOL
(Ok...had to say that.)
On the "Ram Air" subject, the more bends you put in the system...the less "ram" effect you have and the higher speed required to compensate for the extra bends. Consider it "Cold Air Induction".
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
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14.55 @ 96.01mph
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justin
Dodge Dakota
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4/03/2002
21:19:44
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c'mon man, home brew ram air through you fog light openings, just buy a hood
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Spiler
Dodge Dakota
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4/03/2002
21:37:51
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Check this out. Wonder if it is worth a crap.
http://www.electricsupercharger.com/www-electricsupercharger-com/autoprod.htm
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justin
Dodge Dakota
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4/03/2002
21:51:45
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thats very interesting, maybe it works. at least it doesnt say some bull$hit like "adds 80% more power!!!" you should post a topic up on the general or performance board
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QuickRacing
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4/03/2002
22:44:26
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Type E-ram in the search... this topic has been talked about before... or ask Bernd he knows!
"QuickRacing"
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Dakota657
Dodge Dakota
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4/03/2002
22:47:53
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roadracer how did oyu do you intake i like the way yours shound how and can you tell me how you did it? Do you have pics? You can e mail me at pepe657@hotmail.com thanks
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DakotaSilver
Dodge Dakota
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4/04/2002
00:07:30
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Just buy and shaker hood and get the look and the extra horses from it.
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