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Geoff
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3/26/2002
16:44:27
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OK just picked up a set of the chrome Lakewood Universal Traction bars for 29.99 at Autozone. And included are the most pathetic instructions i have ever seen. Basically they say put them on. Does anyone have pictures of what they look like installed? I understand the basic concept but don't want to install the backwards or something equally lame
Thanks
Geoff
2000 3.9L RC Sport. Flame Red. 5-speed, 3.55, Airaid, Vortex Muffler, F&B 48mm TB, 180 T-Stat, Autolite 3923s, IAT Adjuster, Clear Corners, SS Grill Insert, JBA Plug Wires, Underdrive Crank Pulley. Hurst Shifter, Removed Clutch Fan, Sony CDX-MP450X MP3, Infinity Reference Speakers
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alex
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3/26/2002
16:52:53
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The angled tips go towards the front. The rubber snubbers bolt in through the forward-most hole (don't forget the lock washers). The flanges that protrude upwards go on either side of the leafspring retainer plate. You want the bars to be as far forward as possible, so the rear flange needs to be tight up against the spring plate as possible. Put the u-bolts over the leafs, then down thru the holes, add lock-washers and nuts and tighten them until you think they are going to break. I had mine start to slip backwards on me and I have had to re-tighten them.
If you really want to get fancy, take some 1/4" steel bar, cut it to the length of the flanges and drill holes in each piece to match the u-bolt holes. Stack 3 or 4 of them up between the rear flange and the bottom leaf. Then run the u-bolt down thru them and into the traction bar. You basically want to have the snubbers as close to the leaf as possible. These shims will basically lower the rear of the bar while jacking up the front. This will help it "bottom out" sooner and start pushing your tires into the pavement quicker.
If you want pics, e-mail me and I will try to send you some.
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Geoff
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3/26/2002
18:41:20
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Thanks
I found a set of spring clamps that came with four THICK plates (1/4) already drilled only cost $10. I was really excited to avoid any fabrication. But of course the holes in the plates are ovalized but in the wrong direction. So i went at them with the dremel, 10 cut-off disks later they will fit (i just opened one end on each one to allow the Lakewood U bolts to fit. I also ordered taller snubbers from Summit (plus they match my truck RED) The snubbers that came with the bars are about 1 3/4 the ones i ordered are 2 1/8. Hope fully those in conjunction with my spacers should get the tolerences correct.
Geoff
2000 3.9L RC Sport. Flame Red. 5-speed, 3.55, Airaid, Vortex Muffler, F&B 48mm TB, 180 T-Stat, Autolite 3923s, IAT Adjuster, Clear Corners, SS Grill Insert, JBA Plug Wires, Underdrive Crank Pulley. Hurst Shifter, Removed Clutch Fan, Sony CDX-MP450X MP3, Infinity Reference Speakers
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Dr Q
DakotaEnthusiast
3/26/2002
20:58:50
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If you get some SOS replacement arm bushings they are quite a bit longer than the bumpers that come with the bars. I took a razor to trim them to a perfect 1/2" clearance. I think that they were only $6 a pice and do the job well. Beats cutting and drilling steel bar.
Q
Dr.Q
'01 Patriot Blue SLT RC 4.7 5sp 3.92 pegleg
0-60 @ 6.20sec.
1/4mi @ 14.75@97.1
Home Brew Airbox
K&N Drop In
Lakewood Traction Bars
Dremel TB Port and Polish
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Geoff
GenIII
3/27/2002
15:41:53
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Installed them
They look sweet!!!
Did one hard launch still left rubber in first and second until i let off. But Zero wheel hop.
I have about one index fingers width between the snubber and the leaf spring. When my Red snubbers arrive from summit there should be less then 1/4.
Very happy for $29.99
Geoff
2000 3.9L RC Sport. Flame Red. 5-speed, 3.55, Airaid, Vortex Muffler, F&B 48mm TB, 180 T-Stat, Autolite 3923s, IAT Adjuster, Clear Corners, SS Grill Insert, JBA Plug Wires, Underdrive Crank Pulley. Hurst Shifter, Removed Clutch Fan, Sony CDX-MP450X MP3, Infinity Reference Speakers
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Geoff
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3/28/2002
12:31:59
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My new snubbers will arive tomorrow, what is the IDEAL gap between the top of the snubber and the leaf spring? Just wondering what i should be shooting for.
Geoff
2000 3.9L RC Sport. Flame Red. 5-speed, 3.55, Airaid, Vortex Muffler, F&B 48mm TB, 180 T-Stat, Autolite 3923s, IAT Adjuster, Clear Corners, SS Grill Insert, JBA Plug Wires, Underdrive Crank Pulley. Hurst Shifter, Removed Clutch Fan, Sony CDX-MP450X MP3, Infinity Reference Speakers
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NeedForSpeed
Dodge Dakota
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3/28/2002
12:36:36
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You mean you could get wheel hop out of a 3.9 BEFORE the bars? haha
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Geoff
GenIII
3/28/2002
18:57:44
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Yes
EASILY
Geoff
2000 3.9L RC Sport. Flame Red. 5-speed, 3.55, Airaid, Vortex Muffler, F&B 48mm TB, 180 T-Stat, Autolite 3923s, IAT Adjuster, Clear Corners, SS Grill Insert, JBA Plug Wires, Underdrive Crank Pulley. Hurst Shifter, Removed Clutch Fan, Sony CDX-MP450X MP3, Infinity Reference Speakers
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Red4.7
Dodge Dakota
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3/28/2002
20:32:34
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where can i order these online? We don't have autozone's only oreilly's and advance auto parts. Advanced wanted 69.99, and oreilly's 65.99 what a rip.
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Geoff
GenIII
3/29/2002
02:58:15
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Those are probably the better ones
Summit and jegs both has them for around $35 in chrome and yellow
www.jegs.com
www.summitracing.com
Geoff
2000 3.9L RC Sport. Flame Red. 5-speed, 3.55, Airaid, Vortex Muffler, F&B 48mm TB, 180 T-Stat, Autolite 3923s, IAT Adjuster, Clear Corners, SS Grill Insert, JBA Plug Wires, Underdrive Crank Pulley. Hurst Shifter, Removed Clutch Fan, Sony CDX-MP450X MP3, Infinity Reference Speakers
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alex
Dodge Dakota
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3/29/2002
08:25:50
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Really all you want for a gap is about 1/2" to 1/4".
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Geoff
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3/29/2002
15:33:17
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Cool thanks I'm going to install and trim my new RED snubbers right now
Geoff
2000 3.9L RC Sport. Flame Red. 5-speed, 3.55, Airaid, Vortex Muffler, F&B 48mm TB, 180 T-Stat, Autolite 3923s, IAT Adjuster, Clear Corners, SS Grill Insert, JBA Plug Wires, Underdrive Crank Pulley. Hurst Shifter, Removed Clutch Fan, Sony CDX-MP450X MP3, Infinity Reference Speakers
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slow_azz_dak
Dodge Dakota
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3/29/2002
21:48:57
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I have a set of those nifty looking lakewood traction bars on my dak and they do jack and _h_t.
Well guess what jack left town! They do look cool though.
slow_azz_dak
00 r/c 4.7
auto w/3.55 sure grip
corp. 9in
"Lakewood Traction Bars"
home brew intake
flowmaster dual exhuast
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Geoff
GenIII
3/30/2002
03:00:58
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If they are on there correctly how could they do jack sh!t?
The torque moves the spring the spring moves the bar into the spring and the spring can move no further Viola, some kind of jack happens.
My wheel still spins but there is no hopping and the "launch' "feels" more solid. Especially after i installed the Urethane 2 1/8" snubbers about 1/4 clearance
Geoff
2000 3.9L RC Sport. Flame Red. 5-speed, 3.55, Airaid, Vortex Muffler, F&B 48mm TB, 180 T-Stat, Autolite 3923s, IAT Adjuster, Clear Corners, SS Grill Insert, JBA Plug Wires, Underdrive Crank Pulley. Hurst Shifter, Removed Clutch Fan, Sony CDX-MP450X MP3, Infinity Reference Speakers
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MG
Dodge Dakota
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3/30/2002
14:45:46
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I just installed them about a week ago and I like them a lot. I just can not believe that you only had to pay $29.99. Mine were $54.
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DODGEZILLA
Dodge Dakota
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3/31/2002
22:08:48
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Are those the universal traction bars for the leafs?
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Geoff
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3/31/2002
23:24:59
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yeah they come in chrome and yellow. They only had the chrome at Autozone but you can get the yellow at jegs or summit for a few dollars more
http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=2712&prmenbr=76
Geoff
2000 3.9L RC Sport. Flame Red. 5-speed, 3.55, Airaid, Vortex Muffler, F&B 48mm TB, 180 T-Stat, Autolite 3923s, IAT Adjuster, Clear Corners, SS Grill Insert, JBA Plug Wires, Underdrive Crank Pulley. Hurst Shifter, Removed Clutch Fan, Sony CDX-MP450X MP3, Infinity Reference Speakers
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DarcViper
Dodge Dakota
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4/02/2002
19:38:20
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hey quick questoin for you i just got these traction bars and im going to instal them as you have already told us how to do what i would like to know is with a 2001 4.7 L dakota slt 4x2 auto trans only mod is dual exaust
what kind of 0-60 / 1/4 mile times will i be lookin at? or do you know
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alex
Dodge Dakota
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4/03/2002
08:40:51
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What rear gear do you have? How much does your truck weigh? I am guessing mid to low 15's depending....
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DarcViper
Dodge Dakota
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4/03/2002
18:34:09
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3.55 limited slip diff
or traclock witchever you prefer to call it :)
4960 LBs or
2250 kg
i think :)
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alex
Dodge Dakota
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4/04/2002
10:30:05
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Holy Crap!!! 4900 lbs??? I think you need to go to a scale and check again. Some of the Rams don't weigh that much. I'd guess about 4200-4400 lbs. At which point you've pretty much got my same truck and with a stick it's running about 15.8's to 15.4's depending on where your track is, and if it's an auto it may be slower.
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DarcViper
Dodge Dakota
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4/04/2002
13:45:56
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LOL its a regular cab slt 4x2 soo it doesnt weigh much lol i probly read the wrong number off the sticker on the door
:)
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alex
Dodge Dakota
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4/05/2002
14:07:59
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I just posted a Lakewood How to on my shims over on Mopar Chat.
Here's a link:
http://www.moparchat.com/forums/showthread.php?s=f4e2127e3637015efb06f77614223b71&threadid=50094
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Red4.7
Dodge Dakota
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4/06/2002
21:38:42
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HEHE, I called two autozones, today, one quoted 29.99, the other said "autozone no longer caries them"
Now if i could just figure out where that first one is at....
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Bill
Dodge Dakota
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4/08/2002
01:11:34
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does anyone make traction bar just for the 01 dakotas or we have to use the one-size fits all
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Darcviper
Dodge Dakota
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4/11/2002
19:55:24
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ok exactly where am i sposed to get these larger snubs my t bars are about 2 inches too far from the springs and theres no other way to put them on that i can see
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Geoff
GenIII
4/11/2002
23:32:20
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You probably need some spacers on the rear clamp to bring the bar closer. The snubbers are only maybe 1/2 inch bigger then the ones that came with the bars. The snubbers came from jegs or summit.
Geoff
2000 3.9L RC Sport. Flame Red. 5-speed, 3.55, Airaid, Vortex Muffler, F&B 48mm TB, 180 T-Stat, Autolite 3923s, IAT Adjuster, Clear Corners, SS Grill Insert, JBA Plug Wires, Underdrive Crank Pulley. Hurst Shifter, Removed Clutch Fan, Sony CDX-MP450X MP3, Infinity Reference Speakers
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alex
Dodge Dakota
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4/12/2002
07:47:46
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Darc-
I e-mailed you. Did you go look at the pics on Moparchat? Copy & paste the whole link from my post above here into your browser.
alex
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