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johnny
Dodge Dakota
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3/10/2002
02:20:01
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noticed there is no red line on any dakota. does anyone know where the line would be on a 4.7
5 speed? my guess is 5000rpm
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Graphite
DakotaEnthusiast
3/10/2002
16:38:41
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No red line only a speed limiter which is set at 97 or 117 mph based on posts I have seen here.
joe
someone pull me out please!
2002 club cab 4x4 Graphite /silver
2002 quad cab 4x2 Atlantic blue/silver
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Todd B.
Dodge Dakota
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3/10/2002
17:43:13
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A speed limiter, 99 for those autos
and 117 for the 5 spds.
And a rev limiter, I haven't tried mine. Just put it in nuetral and floor it. Better your engine than mine.
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KenDawg
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3/10/2002
23:08:33
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The red line is 5500 RPM thats why it has a redline on the tach. You can rev past the redline, but you might run a chance of blowing your engine. A speed limiter is not a red line.
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Graphite
DakotaEnthusiast
3/11/2002
08:38:19
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There is no red line on the tach on a 2002 4.7.
That is why there is a speed limiter.
joe
someone pull me out please!
2002 club cab 4x4 Graphite /silver
2002 quad cab 4x2 Atlantic blue/silver
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Todd Bouton
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3/11/2002
10:44:29
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KenDawg,
those of us who don't have x-ray vision, can't see our redlines on the tach.
The 01 doesn't have any redline on the tach either. Take a look for yourself. There IS a rev limiter, I'm not going to floor my truck in neutral.
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macman37
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3/11/2002
12:04:24
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Hi guys,
I had a Gen II '96 v-6 Dakota CC that had a tach. There was a redline on that one, I believe starting at 7,000 and topping out at 9,000. My new QC Dakota doesn't have a redline, but what they did was make the highest # you can rev to, where the needle buries at 7,000 (if I remember correctly).
Redline = burying the needle.
jim
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skeletor86
Dodge Dakota
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3/11/2002
14:23:21
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On the engine charts they put on the Dodge site shows around 5500 for the 4.7. I think with the 4.7 they did not put the redline on the Tach for any year, it is not 7000. If Jim wants to test the Rev limiter to see if his will go past 5500 to 7000 I will let him try.
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macman37
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3/11/2002
15:48:46
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Skeletor, I was estimating and I said I don't remember correctly what the RPMs were. Basically, it's a Spinal Tap "these amps go to eleven" scenario... Instead of putting a redline in at all they just made the limit the gauge would go, the highest it would show. Why? I have no idea. But that's what they did.
The only reason I posted here is because when I was buying my new truck, I had seen that there was no redline on the new truck and wondered why... So I poked my head in on my old truck. That's how I know.
I can't speak to the V-8 models, but I assume it's the same. Why wouldn't it be?
jim
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MikeD
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3/11/2002
16:12:02
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5200 or 5500 thats not redline thats the rev limiter...redline is when your about to do severe damage and are reving it to where the engine can't take it. Take off a rev limiter in a V8 and I bet you could rev it to 6000-7000 w/o problems. Get into 8's and 9's and you've got your redline.
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kennungesser
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3/11/2002
16:30:23
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On the 2000 4.7 there is a red line , 2001 and up do not have it. Its there , just not colored as it is in the 2000.
Kenneth l Nungesser
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DakotaEnthusiast
3/11/2002
19:13:08
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Thanks Ken! I thought the rental 2000 4.7 had a yellow and red zone. That piece of Ford I had to rent had no red line either.
joe
someone pull me out please!
2002 club cab 4x4 Graphite /silver
2002 quad cab 4x2 Atlantic blue/silver
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kennungesser
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3/11/2002
19:16:17
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Your welcome!
Kenneth l Nungesser
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johnny
Dodge Dakota
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3/11/2002
20:39:20
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well seems to be alot of different opinions. I guess the only thing left is for someone to floor it in neutral........well whose it gona be???
cuz it sure as hell ain't gona be me!
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KenDawg
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3/11/2002
22:18:16
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Hey this is to Todd Bouton, with his smart a$$ comment. The 2000 4.7's do have a red line. The Standards at least. 5500 to 6000. Whoever thinks they can rev their v8 to 9000 is nuts. Your going to shatter your crankshaft. The 4 cylinder's can rev that high because there is less metal moving. Unless you have a balanced crankshaft and high performance rod's i wouldn't recommend reving past 6 grand.
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MikeD
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3/11/2002
23:53:53
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Ok isn't that what I just said? Up around 6-7 maybe on a V8 but 8 to 9 is redline which means NO don't rev this high it will damage alot of shyt. Try not repeatin whats already been said.
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ICEMAN
Dodge Dakota
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3/12/2002
21:13:50
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ACTUALLY GUYS THE FACTORY PCM WILL SHUT OFF THE FUEL SUPPLY AT A PREPROGRAMMED RPM USUALLY JUST UNDER 6 GRAND .MY 4 CYL DOES IT AT 5600.
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Jeremy
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9/22/2003
00:06:29
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Ok... At what RPM do the automatic 4.7's shift at when you floor it?
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GraphiteDak
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9/22/2003
01:00:48
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Why are people afraid to take their truck to the limiter?
BTW, in neutral it has a really low limiter (like Chevy has done on some cars) it cuts out at approx 3800 RPM's on my '03 4.7
In gear I've hit the limiter a few times but only when shifting the auto manually to TRY the limiter and it looks to be around 5700 or so RPM's. Haven't found the speed limiter, been right up to 120 or so. No reason to go faster than that.
That is where the PCM is set and with stock set up there 's no point to go higher because it would probably fall flat soon.
I bet you this 4.7 is capable of holding together well past 7000 RPM's.
I've taken my Chevy 350's past 6k, all my FOrd 302's past 6k and I've taken one moderately built Ford 302 (all stock bottom end!) past 7K on a daily basis! Of course those had no computers to stop me from doing that.
I've never scattered a Ford doing it. I've spun bearings and floated valves on my Chevy's.
This high tech 4.7 engine should hold together fine if you could do some mods to get it to breath up at those RPM's and to of course move the LIMITER up.
It's a great thing to get to hear your V8 run 7000 RPM's down the street. Once you've had engines that could do that, these stockers seem weak in that aspect. But dependability and 7000+ RPM's don't go together.
2003 Graphite QC 4X4 4.7 Auto 3.55
Home Brewed Cold AIr Intake, Flowmaster 40 series, Modified TPS to .72VDC, Modified IAT. 180 T-Stat.
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GraphiteDak
GenIII
9/22/2003
01:28:23
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Here. I got something for you to listen to.
Here's an old recording of my doing a burnout in my old Mustang 302.
It was an auto tranny and I was power braking it while someone videotaped the burnout and mass smoke.
This is just the audio.
The first few seconds you can hear my idle as I pulled up in front of my friend with the video camera. At this point you can hear the serious lope in the idle from the monster camshaft, compression, etc I had. That sound alone = lots of horsepower! Our Daks sound nothing like that with there low and smooth (stock) idle.
After that I hold the brake and ease into the throttle to start the tires spinning. Now it takes a few seconds to get the RPM's to come up because as a camshaft like this gives you massive horsepower at high RPM's, the off idle torque is lost.
Once it gets over 3000 RPM's it's like a chain reaction, tires spin out of control and I have to back out of the throttle at well over 6K RPM's. (no rev limiter on Holley dbl pumper). Again. This engine had a stock bottom end. Nothing was machined or modded except for cams, heads, induction, etc.
You should hear it play automatically, or click Burnout mp3
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kennungesser
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9/22/2003
22:18:12
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GraphiteDak,
Good to hear from you again, and hear you lol!!! I'v been hanging around www.dakotatrucks.com for awhile so I dont get here to often.
Man!!! That sounds AWSOME!!!! I do NOT like Ford, but I gotta admit , if I hear a good sounding car around here, 9 out of 10 times is a Stang!
Kenneth L Nungesser
"We are determined to defend our lands and, if it be the "Great Spirit's" will, we wish to leave our bones upon them."
Tecumseh, Shawnee Chief 1813
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