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y22man
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3/28/2001
16:26:20
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I was wondering anyone have a time for a quarter mile for a stock 4.7. I see all the guys with mods getting them. I wonder what completely stock would do. I have a 2000 4.7 cc
Jay
2000 DakotaCC SLT Plus 4.7L 3.90 L-Slip Stick
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BigD
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3/28/2001
19:47:18
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Well, I only have a flowmaster exhaust on my regular cab... and I ran a 14.2 in the quarter mile.
2000 RC 4.7L V8
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CyberWolf
GenIII
3/29/2001
12:35:43
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Wow, I'm impressed BigD. Is that with 5 speed or auto? 3.55 or 3.92 gears? Full flowmaster Cat Back or just muffler?
'01 4.7 CC, 5 speed, Sport , 3.92 limited slip, Intense
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david warren
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3/29/2001
20:54:59
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i have a 4.7 5 speed with a ram air and cat back flows, tracktion bars and its also lowered 3&2. I was wondering what they would run.I have heard of the 5.9 turning 14.6 can the 4.7 5 speed be that much faster
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Bernd
GenIII
3/29/2001
21:02:49
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Ram-Air? You mean Cold Air. ;)
As for the trap speed of the 5.9L, they're automatics. A 5-speed (when shifted properly) will be faster.
Bernd D. Ratsch
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT
Supercharged w/Nitrous
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BigD
GenI
3/29/2001
23:33:44
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My 4.7 is an auto with the 3.92 at the rear. Also, it's just a muffler...not the full cat-back.
2000 RC 4.7L V8
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Chris Lambert
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3/30/2001
07:13:31
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Now I am not one to question people but 14.2 with a 4.7 auto with only a flowmaster muffler is kinda hard to swallow. My buddy has a 2000 4.7 5 speed and he has caltrac bars, custom computer flash, intake, Hughes TB Flowmaster 3" catback and Slicks and he dumps the clutch at 3000 RPM off the line and cuts 1.9 60' times and his best ever was a 14.2 he ussaly runs 14.4s. sorry just my $0.02
Chris
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BigD
GenI
3/30/2001
10:20:31
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I can understand your disbelief. It was the biggest shock to me when I found out what I had run. I guess there's always a chance there was an error. I'm just relaying the numbers given to me.
2000 RC 4.7L V8
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BigD
GenI
3/30/2001
10:21:30
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Also...just curious if your friend has a regular cab or an extended cab?
2000 RC 4.7L V8
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Will
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3/30/2001
10:28:08
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Chris--How many miles does your buddy's clutch have on it. Mine went at 15,000 miles, I've never dropped it at 3,000 RPM.
Thanks --Will Sanford
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Jonas Janek
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3/30/2001
11:02:12
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Hey david, what traction bars do you have on your dakota? How are they?
Jonas
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Pierre Lessard
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4/01/2001
19:21:35
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1/4 miles:15.02/s
MPH:89.98 mph
0-60 feets:2.09/s
very,very,very,very stock machine!
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jeffster
GenIII
4/01/2001
19:56:03
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What sort of set up is that. reg/club man/auto 3.55/3.92
Thanks
Waiting for my black 2WD 2001 Sport 4.7 R.C 5 speed 3:92 LS
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jeffster
GenIII
4/01/2001
20:13:48
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What sort of truck set up is that. Auto/5peed CC/RC, 3.55/3.92
Thanks
Waiting for my black 2WD 2001 Sport 4.7 R.C 5 speed 3:92 LS
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Hersbird
Dakota Enthusiast
5/04/2001
00:08:09
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I am new here, this is my first post. I am looking to buy a 2001 Sport RC 4.7 5-speed with no other options but 3.92's and limited slip. All this for $13,620 seems like the deal of the century. I used to have a 93 RC 4x2 SE with the 5.2/auto 3.55 and no limited slip. The 93 ran 15.8 sec 1/4 miles pure stock w/passenger at Sears point. After some simple mods like unbolting the exhaust from the cat back, removing tailgate and spare, and a mopar computer it ran 14.9 at 92MPH. That truck cost me $15,000 new in 93 so the 2001 seems like a killer deal. I just wish they still were doing the yellow. So low 15's with this setup is pretty common pure stock? That seems like the same as a pure stock 5.9 will run and that 5.9 exact look could be acheived for another $2000 right? That still leaves $3000 in mods before I reach the base price of the R/T. Granted the R/T has a few more creature comforts but I just want to go fast and only have a 3 mile commute to live with so I can handle the bare minimum. It's like ordering a Hemi roadrunner with bench seat, dog dish hubcaps, and no radio, for less money then a base 440 GTX.
I plan on going through the largest dodge truck dealer on the planet Dave Smith. They can put stuff out of the Mopar catalog on before I pick it up thus including it into the financing. Any good initial ideas? I know I'll get the 17" wheels and fender flairs as the only looks add on. What else is there out for 4.7 that will put it mid 14 to low 14's?
Thanks for the help.
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Nick
*GenIII*
5/04/2001
00:31:25
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Not to start a fight...but whats the point in racing a truck?
I thought trucks went off roading, and hauled farm equipment...but what do I know.
The Truck
[URL]http://www.geocities.com/dakotatruck4x4/[/URL]
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RedDak
GenI
5/04/2001
00:42:48
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Why do you take your truck offroad? Because you like to do it, have fun, and its a rush. Right? Why do people race cars? Same reasons! Just because they like too..Thats a simple enough reason isnt it? If trucks are setup right they can be really fast too.....really fast
Jonas Janek
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jeffster
GenIII
5/04/2001
02:29:11
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Agreed Jonas. I need a light truck for work but love sport cars. I actually think the Dak's look a hell of a lot more sporty and bad a$$ than even most sport cars. I sold my 98 CC 4x4 to do so.
Test drove an R/T and my mind was made up. Time for a sport truck.
Waiting for my 2001 black 4.7 RC Sport 5 speed 3:92 limited slip
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Hersbird
Dakota Enthusiast
5/06/2001
01:18:05
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Well here is the choice I think I need to make. We need to fit 3 in the cab from time to time and my wife says it won't work with somebody sitting in the middle of the bench and then having to shift a 5 speed. So what kills 1/4 mile times more adding an automatic -vs- the 5 speed or getting an extended cab -vs- the regular cab. Just going with the automatic saves $1000 and looks better, IMO. I want to be able to wear a couple of weeks worth of rubber off the tires from time to time at an intersection, will the automatic with the 16" wheel package and 3.90/LS do it? I know a 5-speed will.
I think I'll be getting a amber fire RC, 4.7, 3.90/LS, fender flairs, Sport Plus package, floor mats, rear slider, and automatic tranny for $16,362. The 2001 ordering cutoff is coming soon so I need to make up my mind. Anybody know if they are adding anything interesting for 2002?
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jeffster
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5/06/2001
02:38:18
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Oh ya you will burn off those RSA's real quick in an auto as well. I would almost certaily think the R.C auto would move a little faster than a C.C 5 speed. 3 grown up's however in the front will be uncomfortable as hell IMHO. I am 6.2 and felt a little more snug in the R.C than I wanted to but I will adapt. I am with you in that the R.C looks bad to the bone especially in black.
Waiting for my 2001 black 4.7 RC Sport 5 speed 3:92 limited slip
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Hersbird
Dakota Enthusiast
5/06/2001
16:35:02
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My daughter is only 8 right now and I am 5'11" my wife 5'4". We also have a Grand Caravan so that is what we will use fro the family 95% of the time. Technically now when we need to haul something we take out all the seats in the van and then it only seats two (but multiple 4x8 sheets of plywood will go it it with the hatch closed) So my wife ends up sitting on crap in the back witch is more uncomfortable and less safe then 3 in the front of a Dakota. I am going to get the regular cab, and I think I'll get the 5 speed anyway as well, she really doesn't care much and I think the $1000 for the automatic would be better spent on a few more accessories.
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jeffster
GenIII
5/06/2001
18:49:47
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Oh ya baby let the good times role. Sound like we are getting the same truck. Make sure you get the tire and handling package,it's only about $250.00 more but you get stablizers and 16' alloys. I have a feeling I will go and burn the RSA's off right away once I line up some good used v or z rated low pro's. The factory rubber isn't going to stick worth a shi.. The only mods I am doing are all engine and removal of decals. The factory 2wd hieght is mean and muscular so no lowereing for me this time.
Next week my ride should finnaly be here.
Waiting for my 2001 black 4.7 RC Sport 5 speed 3:92 limited slip
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CraigT
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5/07/2001
10:13:28
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I have a stock 2000 4.7L extra cab with 3.55 gears and a limited slip. Anyone know how fast my quarter mile time or 0-60 mph time might be? Being that I have stock slt tires (215/60/15 I think) will traction bars be a big improvement for me?
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kraw
GenIII
5/07/2001
11:03:12
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actually, the stock tires are Goodyear Eagle LS , the RSA are standard on the R/T. I think I got about 30k out of my stock LS's.
but, I believe the point of this post was STOCK 4.7 times... don't think I have seen any yet? And what about time slips? Won't that make the 14.2 run more believable?
just my thoughts for the morning
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Geoffrey
BL 98 5.2L RC
www.krawdaddy.net
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jeffster
GenIII
5/07/2001
17:08:24
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KRAW. The new tire and handling group has 16" RSA's on them. I am almost certain of this allthough not 100%.
No stock 4.7 run's 14.2. At least on a time slip. I have heard and beleive 14.7 is possible with a perfect run. Just got back from the dealership. My dealer is even going to take this one for a boot. He's driven a couple R/T's but is also hearing that they are losing to the 4.7's in the 1/4 mile with the right configuration off the lot.
Waiting for my 2001 black 4.7 RC Sport 5 speed 3:92 limited slip
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Jeff
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5/08/2001
16:50:04
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14.02 is BS. My .02.
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Jeff
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5/08/2001
16:52:56
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Sry, 14.2. BS.
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Wayne
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5/08/2001
18:13:36
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I got in to it with a fellow on MOPARCHAT over his claim that he cut .78 off his time slip by removing his stock air filter and replacing it with a 14X3. The discussion got ugly and I shouldn't have been so blunt. I'll try to do better with the 14.2 issue. I don't know all the details but 14.2 on a stock 4.7 is unusually fast.I have seen about 15 - 20 4.7/5 speed/3.92 combo run and the times have ranged from 14.7 to 15.2. I hav not seen any other combination with the 4.7 at the strip and I am very interested in what they run - especially a CC 4.7/auto/3.92.
Wayne Van Metre
'99 CC SLT 5.2/auto/3.90 anti spin
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Jeff
Unregistered
5/08/2001
18:44:05
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Yeah, unusually fast = BS. Im gonna be blunt because I'm sick of all these idiots posting bogus times. Lets see the slips...
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jeffster
GenIII
5/08/2001
18:49:49
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I agree with you as does everyone else that knows the truck. B.S. 14.7 sounds like absolute top with a near perfect run. A 1/2 second under that no way.
Waiting for my 2001 black 4.7 RC Sport 5 speed 3:92 limited slip
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Hersbird
Dakota Enthusiast
5/08/2001
23:24:51
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Who said they had a 14.2 pure stock run? Do you guys even read the posts or just spout off? The run is a bit hard to swallow but it was a slightly modified truck. Also somebody's stock may not really be 100% stock. My 93 LE V-8, 3.55, non-posi, automatic made several runs in the heat and wind at Sears Point 14.8-15.0 basically stock w/the mopar ECU. I'd bet a basically stock 4.7/ 5 speed/ 3.92 posi should run that all day long. My truck pure stock with a passenge ran a 15.8, a full sec was cut with little drag racer mods and the ECU. It would have passed for pure stocker anyday.
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Wayne
*GenIII*
5/09/2001
08:48:32
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Hersbird,
I read the post. Do you read the posts. Sii the second post on this thread. He says 14.2 and only changed muffler. Most consider a muffler change to Flowmaster to still be a stock truck and 14.2 to be veerrry fast for a truck with only this change. Now I want to know where you read a post that said "pure" stock? And I'll accept your apology for saying I "spout off".
Wayne Van Metre
'99 CC SLT 5.2/auto/3.90 anti spin
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Hersbird
Dakota Enthusiast
5/09/2001
11:43:33
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If 14.7 is possible on a pure stock truck, 14.2 with better tires alone would be easy. Or do tires not count as stock? If you were allowed to use NHRA stock class rules a Dakota could run low 13's I bet. So are we talking pure stock or a couple of minor mods? I'd say 14.2 on drag radials alone. Also different tracks and temps will give quite a range of times on the same truck.
I wouldn't say 'most' consider a cat back or muffler change to be stock, I'd bet most would say, "Yeh, my truck is stock except for the exhaust."
Not ,"Yeh, my truck is stock."
I just think it's possible, not showroom stock but with $300 and some tricks 14.2 sounds reasonable.
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Wayne
*GenIII*
5/09/2001
12:34:26
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WEELLLLL now you have gone and done it. You are getting technical. O.K. Your "low 13s" number is waaay off. 2 weeks ago I watched a NHRA legal stock eliminator Dodge Ram run low 12s with a low pass of 12.14.
Now admit it. I did read the post. Go on - admit it.
Wayne Van Metre
'99 CC SLT 5.2/auto/3.90 anti spin
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Jeff
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5/09/2001
13:56:42
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Once again, got a dreamer... There is no way a 4.7 with only a flowmaster will run a 14.2. I would almost question your 14.8 if you were running 15.8 stock. Do you realize the horsepower needed to take a second off your time? Most SC's only take a second off while adding 80-120 hp. And you say you got 14.8-15.0 with an auto. .2 is a fairly large difference to have between runs with an auto. After 8 runs at a best of 15.118, my worst was 15.198, difference being .08. All i got to say is, lets see the slips. For some reason I'm thinking somehow my 15.118 would beat your 14.8... And when did they start allowing passengers at Sears Point??
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V8Dakota
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5/09/2001
22:52:30
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I have a '00 Dakota Club Cab V8 5-speed 4x4 with 3.92 locked gears. I have raced other trucks and many cars. Mostly TransAms. I feel that a 14 sec 1/4 mile is very slow. I haved timed mine but I do know that it didn't take no 14 seconds. I just say learn how to drive your truck on road and off. My truck has only one modification on it performance wise and that is no muffler. My exhaust dumps about 4" past my cab. I still say 14 is too slow. If I get a chance to time mine then I'll come back with some real numbers to go by for a stock 4.7
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Hersbird
Dakota Enthusiast
5/10/2001
00:22:46
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The runs at Sears Point were made back in 1994, I haven't been back since so I don't know if they allow passengers anymore. My Dakota had a Mopar Performance ECU, the entire exhaust system removed from the cat back, some old lower profile tires (better traction and final ratio), a 14" regular round K&N, and extra stuff like the tailgate, spare, and rear bumper removed. The time ranges came into play depending on the wind, temperature, and cooling between the runs. You could drop a sec. in the 1/4 also by removing 1000 pounds. If I lost a 200 pound passenger and another 300 pounds of exhaust, tailgate, spare, and bumper. It would only need about 30 HP and effective gear reduction of the tires to cut the secound off. I be the Computer is good for 20 HP, and the intake and exhaust another 10 at least. I had some traction problems with no weight over the tires but it hooked up quick enough. The 93 318 was rated 230 HP at 4800 rpm and 280 ft-lb at 3200 rpm. Looking at the old window sticker it did have a limited slip but no 3.92's. The time slips are long gone, sorry.
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Jeff
Gen II
5/10/2001
00:57:01
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If you think a 14 sec 1/4 mile is slow V8, dont take your 4x4 to the track. You will be very disappointed. I ran a 96 trans am that ran a 14.4 and a 94 vette that ran a 14.5, which is average for stock. Trust me, 14 sec is very fast for a street car/truck. Not as fast as my 11.1 bike tho ;}
92 RC Sport 5.2 3.55 Auto
Mod'ed TB and intake, Flowmaster,
MOPAR PCM
15.118/89.27
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Jeff
Gen II
5/10/2001
01:07:25
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Better clarify... Average for a 7 yr old car that is stock.
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Wayne
*GenIII*
5/13/2001
01:48:52
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V8Dakota - I'll save you the trouble of going to the track. You are in the 16's. It is not as fast as you think. I wanted to warn you so you wouldn't go sucking on the tailpipe when you see your first time slip.
Hersbird - go back and read the 2nd post. That is the one being talked about. You are trying to defend a post that didn't take off his tailgate, spare tire and doors to run a 14.2. You are getting ridiculous trying to defend a simple statement using "guessed at h.p. gains" and weight loss on a '93 when he is talking about a '00 RC 4.7. You challenged us to read the posts. Now I say that you should read them.
P.S. I went to Sears today and they didn't have a drag strip.
Wayne Van Metre
'99 CC SLT 5.2/auto/3.90 anti spin
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Jon McCuskey
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5/13/2001
14:43:30
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Well I have been using this site for some time now. And it is fair to say you guys are going way overboard on this time slip thing. So what if he says he runs 14.2? Maybe he had a seventy mph tailwind and he weighs 85lbs? So many variables are involved. Lets just relax and modify whatever we want and use this site for its true purpose, gaining knowledge, not useless bickering.
P.S.- There is nothing wrong with modifying a 4 cyl, V6, or even a 4x4 V8. Hell I put O2 injection on my leaf blower for fun.
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