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litlpunisher
GenIII
12/07/2001
14:40:41
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Where is the best place to set the iat adjuster when running nos. will it help, or will it advance timing when you don't want it. If so how do you know how much it is advancing.
98 Dakota
Bottle fed 340ci
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Vents
Dodge Dakota
12/09/2001
00:52:39
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get an M1 and a carb and forget about that stupid junk. or find a smokin deal on a DFI setup.
~Vents
LT1 280z
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bernd
*GenIII*
12/09/2001
01:20:42
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Vents: And for less than $300, you can custom curve your own fuel maps (and run a 2.5-BAR MAP sensor as well). Whoopie...looks like a Chevy-Boy is "strutting his stuff". Bahahahahaha
Punisher: Set it where you normally run it. The Nitrous system (if it's a wet system) will compensate with the fuel jet.
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
Supercharged/Intercooled @ 10# w/Nitrous
14.93 @ 93.26mph
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litlpunisher
GenIII
12/09/2001
15:12:41
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Vents I do have a M1, but why go with a carb. It's good leaving everything looking stock(definetly not going to go like stock). If I wanted to run a carb like everyone else at the track, then I might as well buy a chevy like eveyone else but I like going fast and winning my races so i'm not going to buy one. a carb makes things easier but I still like my fuelly
98 Dakota
Bottle fed 340ci
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Brian024.7
Dodge Dakota
12/10/2001
14:03:45
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but you dont want the timing to be advanced, which is my understanding of what the IAT does!?!?!
so I would back it off to stock
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SuperDak
Dodge Dakota
12/11/2001
17:12:18
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posted by BernD:
Vents: And for less than $300, you can custom curve your own fuel maps (and run a 2.5-BAR MAP sensor as well). Whoopie...looks like a Chevy-Boy is "strutting his stuff". Bahahahahaha
Punisher: Set it where you normally run it. The Nitrous system (if it's a wet system) will compensate with the fuel jet.
did i say a single thing about "my stuff" or my brand loyalty? sure i like chevy but thats a matter of avalibility and the pricetag that it comes with. for less than 200 bucks i run LT1 edit and make my own fuel air cures and totally customize my own PCM. the thing about it is that most people dont know jack about tuning an EFI setup themselves. i suggested that Punisher get a carb if he wanted to spray that much simply because of the power increase over an efi setup. take ben mcall's truck for example on Dragtruk.com
the guy simply went to a carbed 360 and was pulling consistent 11's on just a 200 shot. it seems like lil pun has quite a lot more in his truck than that. so for the price of your 300 dollar adjustable FI setup, our boy pun pun could be happily in the high 10's at the track with a carb and -3 degree's of timing or contently retaning his FI setup and sit on 12-11 second timeslips. granted this is just me "Strutting my stuff" so you probably wont want to listen to what a stupid ol chevy guy has to say. ;)
im not bashing im suggesting.
~Vents
LT1 280z
97 Dak (Daily Driven)
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litlpunisher
GenIII
12/11/2001
17:26:28
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He's what in the 11's with a more than stock 360 with a carb, with a 200 shot. I'm not worried about being in the 11's. All motor I should be upper 400's hp and about the same torque. Now I'm going from a 5.2 to a 340, 150 shot to a 200 shot. Worried about 11's ? NO! Would I like to be in the 10's yes, one problem alot of mods to be allowed on the track in the low 11's. So it is still my daily driver. So why tune in a carb when my computer does it for me. If Iwant to go carb then I would fill in the bosses and tap a fogger system in it. I don't know just an idea. Just some mopar guy thinking power not what' s cheaper. I could have put a vette motor in it for cheaper. Oh yeah I was beating them with my 318. (Sports car vs cc truck maybe i'll take your suggestion) Yeh right!
98 Dakota
Bottle fed 340ci
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SuperDak
Dodge Dakota
12/11/2001
22:26:54
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450+ on motor hunh? at the crank or wheels? with an m1 and 340 ci? forgive me but i'd like to hear about some ported w-2's and a lot of solid roller cam cause that smells pretty fishy.. dont get me wrong, for all i know you could be putting that down, but not from what i smell. beside that, who gives a flying rip about the track rules?? any well mannered gearhead knows that rules are meant to be broken. and beside That, excuse the heck out of me for just trying to help out.
ohh well, to each his own.
maybe i'll just take the LT1 part out of my sig and you mopar PURISTS would lend an ear to some common sense. fast is fast is fast.
WWW.hotroddakota.com - stupid carb's and lousy 11's
~Vents
280zx (offical ride to the smackdown hotel)
97 DAKOTA
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litlpunisher
GenIII
12/11/2001
23:03:49
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Are you gettin a little pissed off! Hydro roller cam, ported and polished MAGNUM heads(flow better than w-2 don't u read mopar magazine), 10.5:1 compression. 540 lift, Can't push upper 400 come on. Yes that is at the flywheel. Engine dyno right at friends house. Kind, Land and Sea dyno, Where Seacoast Dyno Saco ME.
98 Dakota
Bottle fed 340ci
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bernd
*GenIII*
12/12/2001
00:09:48
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Vents: I was referring to the DFI system. Why anyone would want to run a carb on a Magnum motor is beyond me. (I'm also an old "Chevy Boy" who switched from carbs to FI on my '76 BB Chevy Camaro. 12.2's @ 120mph all day long...no Nitrous required for that.) ;)
Brian: you can set the IAT Adjuster where ever the truck runs best. It only advances the timing 1-2 degrees max (1 on the average but does help out with fine tuning the fuel curve.)
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
Supercharged/Intercooled @ 10# w/Nitrous
14.93 @ 93.26mph
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conig
Dodge Dakota
12/12/2001
15:19:47
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can't get that url to work.
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Vents
Dodge Dakota
12/13/2001
12:28:34
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BernD,
True, DFI setups are pretty pricey but there also completely universal. i find if funny that the many of the five liter mustangs and fourth gen camaro's have switched to carbs just to pick up a few extra tenths. conversely, nothing else paralells a good FI setup. here's a better link
http://www.dragtruk.com/ENTRIES/mccallben.html
Lil pun,
i'm realy not getting pissed off. however im sorry dude im just not buying upper 400's on that combo. im not saying that it's impossible it's just that those heads are killing you. look into a set of ported w-2's and tell me that im wrong. you sure that wasnt desktop dyno you they at your friends house? im just jerking your chain if you havent noticed. if you would take everything i say with a grain of salt, we might just get along. it's only a little trash talkin...
here's another example for ya.
http://www.dragtruk.com/ENTRIES/clarkdahrl.html
~Vents
mighty moused two-eighty zee
nintey seven dakota - just few things here and there
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litlpunisher
GenIII
12/14/2001
08:11:08
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W-2 heads are not the greatest things out there. If you were talking about the w-5 now thats a good head. The magnum head is probably the best flowing production head out there. The only down fall is the stock magnum can only handle a max of about 550 lift. However my magnum heads are flowing about 226 thats not bad for a sb mopar head.
98 Dakota
Bottle fed 340ci
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Vents
Dodge Dakota
12/14/2001
15:35:42
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Lil pun,
your right, the W-5's, are some of the best heads out there. when i finally finish the buildup of the 408 for my truck i'll probably end up with some ported w-2's. remember that these things flow right about 250 cfm out of the box. really not bad for a small block mopar head. and for the price, about 600 a pair it's the best head for the money. to answer your first question, if you're going to run a 200-250 shot on that motor, with the addition of some race gas, kicking the timing back about 1-3 degree's total is optimal.
~Vents
i dont feel like typing the sig.
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